pfflamingo Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 To All... From pfflamingo... Thanks all... the HI-MD Minidisk Forum is a great resource for me and my local MD friends here in San Francisco... Now we've gathered together a couple of questions and request some feedback... "Question #1: [from BJ] Why does SonicStage take forever to "import" already-downloaded or existing MP3 files that are already on my hard drive [importing takes nearly real-time, whether they are 'podcast' or generic MP3 files]? "And as SonicStage goes through this "import" process, does it actually transfer each whole file byte-by-byte into a [new] directory?... and where would this directory be?... [can't ever find any such directory by searching for the converted files] or does it just "link" to the file as they exist in the directory they already reside in? "[i've tried to locate such "transferred" files on my hard drive, to no avail, which prompts me to wonder why in the heck SoundStage even bothers to do its little "dance", taking its f#cking time "converting" the file from my hard drive to another place on my hard drive ...that cannot be found...1]... so please, if you have an answer, let me know..., thanks, BJ."------ "Question #2: [from KF] I want to digitally transfer existing MP3 files from my desktop to my MD recorder and have track marks inserted automatically every 60 seconds in the MD file. This would be the same as when I record an audio feed from a live realtime input onto my MD, inserting a mark every 60 seconds... this I do all the time. {Yes, I know I can create track marks by doing an analog-to-analog real-time transfer from either a computer to a Minidisc unit or from one Minidisc unit directly to another Minidisc unit, but I want to be able to accomplish the transfer while imbedding track marks as I transfer at faster-than-realtime...] Note: I am NOT interested in inserting track marks "between" "tracks"... this I already know how to do... Yes, as stated above, my MD recorder cannot insert track marks at any specified interval from any feed from any [already existing] audio file from any hard drive when using a faster-than-realtime digital connection. To be able to insert track marks at specified intervals during a faster-than-realtime transfer is of utmost importance to me as I want to be able to then skip though commercials and other crap segments whenever they may occur in a transferred file. Which of you miracle-worker gurus out there may have an answer to this problem...?"Thanks so much,pfflamingo [and BJ and KF]San Francisco MD Delicatos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza49 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 To All... From pfflamingo... Thanks all... the HI-MD Minidisk Forum is a great resource for me and my local MD friends here in San Francisco... Now we've gathered together a couple of questions and request some feedback... "Question #1: [from BJ] Why does SonicStage take forever to "import" already-downloaded or existing MP3 files that are already on my hard drive [importing takes nearly real-time, whether they are 'podcast' or generic MP3 files]? "And as SonicStage goes through this "import" process, does it actually transfer each whole file byte-by-byte into a [new] directory?... and where would this directory be?... [can't ever find any such directory by searching for the converted files] or does it just "link" to the file as they exist in the directory they already reside in? "[i've tried to locate such "transferred" files on my hard drive, to no avail, which prompts me to wonder why in the heck SoundStage even bothers to do its little "dance", taking its f#cking time "converting" the file from my hard drive to another place on my hard drive ...that cannot be found...1]... so please, if you have an answer, let me know..., thanks, BJ."------ "Question #2: [from KF] I want to digitally transfer existing MP3 files from my desktop to my MD recorder and have track marks inserted automatically every 60 seconds in the MD file. This would be the same as when I record an audio feed from a live realtime input onto my MD, inserting a mark every 60 seconds... this I do all the time. {Yes, I know I can create track marks by doing an analog-to-analog real-time transfer from either a computer to a Minidisc unit or from one Minidisc unit directly to another Minidisc unit, but I want to be able to accomplish the transfer while imbedding track marks as I transfer at faster-than-realtime...] Note: I am NOT interested in inserting track marks "between" "tracks"... this I already know how to do... Yes, as stated above, my MD recorder cannot insert track marks at any specified interval from any feed from any [already existing] audio file from any hard drive when using a faster-than-realtime digital connection. To be able to insert track marks at specified intervals during a faster-than-realtime transfer is of utmost importance to me as I want to be able to then skip though commercials and other crap segments whenever they may occur in a transferred file. Which of you miracle-worker gurus out there may have an answer to this problem...?"Thanks so much,pfflamingo [and BJ and KF]San Francisco MD Delicatoswindows uses foldersdos uses directiries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akijikan Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I don't know what gazza is talking about...I thought directiries and folders were the same thing, and I don't really see how any of that affects this discussion. Maybe I'm missing something...anyway,1: Importing is not real time for me. I imported 1200 tracks of various length of WMA and MP3 files in approx 2-3 minutes.SS is not creating any new files and treats the files you imported as the library file. It does, however, create a new file when you convert to ATRAC for transfer. This location can be defined in the options.2: There's not a good way to do this. The best thing I can think of is to open the files in a wav editor and take care of it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skradgee Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 This is not a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 "Question #1: [from BJ] Why does SonicStage take forever to "import" already-downloaded or existing MP3 files that are already on my hard drive [importing takes nearly real-time, whether they are 'podcast' or generic MP3 files]? SS imports mp3s rather quickly for me. The majority of the processing involved in the task is simply reading the tags and indexing them in the SS database. It takes a couple of minutes on my machine [Athlon XP 2500+ / 512MB] to import/index a couple of thousand mp3s. "And as SonicStage goes through this "import" process, does it actually transfer each whole file byte-by-byte into a [new] directory?... and where would this directory be?... [can't ever find any such directory by searching for the converted files] or does it just "link" to the file as they exist in the directory they already reside in? "[i've tried to locate such "transferred" files on my hard drive, to no avail, which prompts me to wonder why in the heck SoundStage even bothers to do its little "dance", taking its f#cking time "converting" the file from my hard drive to another place on my hard drive ...that cannot be found...1]... so please, if you have an answer, let me know..., thanks, BJ."The files are simply indexed by SS and added to its database. Depending on various options, SS can rename the files if you alter their tags at all, but other than this they should remain in their original locations, and not be duplicated in any way unless you tell SS to transcode them to some flavour of atrac/3/plus for downloading to any of Sony's players. "Question #2: [from KF] I want to digitally transfer existing MP3 files from my desktop to my MD recorder and have track marks inserted automatically every 60 seconds in the MD file. This would be the same as when I record an audio feed from a live realtime input onto my MD, inserting a mark every 60 seconds... this I do all the time.SS has split and combine functions only for use with files recorded on HiMD and uploaded to your computer. Otherwise it has no facilities for editing existing files in any way, shape, or form.One reason for this is that SS is not intended to be an MP3 or WMA handler or editor. It is intended primarily for dealing with atrac/3/plus files. While some of Sony's players do accept the transfer of mp3s as-is, SS is limited to doing just that with them. The baseline here is basically that if you want editor features, use editing software. SS is primarily for cataloguing and transferring files, and its limited editing capabilities are for use with tracks uploaded from HiMD only.Lastly: folders vs. directories is simply a semantic thing. They are in reality exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poe Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 If you convert the mp3's over to a Atrac format you can then use the divide track function on the Atrac file. I do this for podcast I listen to. The only down side is its manual and not fine enough to get 1 min sections, still good enough for breaking long podcast up. Are you importing the mp3s in as a Atrac file, if so it does take time to convert it. If you just import a mp3 in, it is virtually instanteous. POE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 If you convert the mp3's over to a Atrac format you can then use the divide track function on the Atrac file. I do this for podcast I listen to. The only down side is its manual and not fine enough to get 1 min sections, still good enough for breaking long podcast up. Are you importing the mp3s in as a Atrac file, if so it does take time to convert it. If you just import a mp3 in, it is virtually instanteous. POEI stand corrected. I was under the impression that editing was only for files that had been uploaded. That assumption meant I've never even tried with anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza49 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 yes ss converts all music files to atrac files, to find out where they are stored open tools, options, general, location tosave inported files. this is where all youe atrac files are, if you are finished with them i would sugest you delete the lot as they use up a lot of hd space.oh and all i meant was dont mix directories with files. ok they are the same thing but directories are old dos. folders are windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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