ZosoIV Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Back in the day, I used to own an experimental MD that was something like 86 1/2 minutes long, and I remember getting it through the MDCF around 2000. I also recall that it worked fine in my MDS-JE530 so long as I didn't do a "disc delete." Lately, I've been using my old deck again for home use, and have several albums where an extra minute or two on a blank would save me from having to use two discs (Quadrophenia and The Wall are two that come to mind). As for my disc, I think it must have accidentally been erased, because I can't find it! Does anybody remember what I'm talking about? If anybody DOES have one of these things, would it be possible to clone me another one if I sent along a blank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damnwell Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Back in the day, I used to own an experimental MD that was something like 86 1/2 minutes long, and I remember getting it through the MDCF around 2000. I also recall that it worked fine in my MDS-JE530 so long as I didn't do a "disc delete." Lately, I've been using my old deck again for home use, and have several albums where an extra minute or two on a blank would save me from having to use two discs (Quadrophenia and The Wall are two that come to mind). As for my disc, I think it must have accidentally been erased, because I can't find it! Does anybody remember what I'm talking about? If anybody DOES have one of these things, would it be possible to clone me another one if I sent along a blank?My theory on the disc you're talking about is this: I remember before 80 min. discs came (or even when they were still a rarity), there were a couple of websites that showed you how to trick a 74 min. disc into an 80 min. disc. The main idea behind it was that you "tricked" the table of contents somehow (and I've always assumed that's sort of how the companies devised 80 min. discs). Just my 2 cents on the subject! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielbb90 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) http://www.minidisc.org/miyadisc/Is this it? Edited January 14, 2006 by danielbb90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZosoIV Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yes, that's it! There's no "purchase" button on that page, though, so I'm assuming they are no longer for sale. Still looks like I'll have to get a clone of somebody else's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATELETRONICS Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Yes, that's it! There's no "purchase" button on that page, though, so I'm assuming they are no longer for sale. Still looks like I'll have to get a clone of somebody else's....i have been reading this forum for years and i remember discussion af a 110 min standard md. does anyone remember that? i swear there was a discussion on how they made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZosoIV Posted January 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 i have been reading this forum for years and i remember discussion af a 110 min standard md. does anyone remember that? i swear there was a discussion on how they made it.That was probably the now-defunct "MiniDisc Secrets" page you are referring to. While I never knew anybody who had one of these discs, I don't think you would be able to get much more than 86" on them, as there are no ADIP (address in pre-groove) values past the lead-out of the disc. Plus, there's not much space between the edge of a disc and where the end of a normal recording occurs, anyway (certainly not another 30 minutes, anyway!). The other non-contiguous parts of an MD, if added up, would only give you a minute or two more recording time, IIRC. Thus, the MiyaDisc probably represents what would happen if every allocatable block on the disc was added to the freelist: 86 minutes. If Sony would release a Hi-MD deck sometime this century, I wouldn't have to play around with oversized discs to squeeze another minute or two of high-quality music onto a disc. (And no, MDLP doesn't count in my book). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauljones52 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 SP is 292 and LP2 is 132kb/s, which is less than half by about 10%. Maybe you could achive a substantial recording time increase in this mode?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZosoIV Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 None of my current gear (two units I've held onto for years) is MDLP compatible, so LP2 isn't an option. Besides, it sounds awful to me - I can pick it out in a blind test or A/B comparison nearly 100% of the time. The lowpass on LP2 is too low (17 or 18kHz), and on many of the recordings I did with LP2 when I had MDLP-compatible equipment, there is annoying HF flanging/ringing/swishing on high-pitched instruments (cymbals, drums, high vocals, brass). Considering that SP is not transparent to my ears (but usually close), LP2 isn't worth my time - even LAME-encoded mp3's at 128kbps sounds better to my ears (but still awful!). That's why I wish Sony would offer a Hi-MD deck: 94 minutes of re-recordable, editable PCM! Hi-SP currently has SQ problems, but in the future might be "tweaked" enough to compete better with old SP - and that would give almost 8 hours of recording time. Guess I'll have to keep dreaming, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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