vergergc Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Friends,I've been reading about the lack of quality (see below) on MP3 files played on the MZ-RH10. Is it true other Hi-MD models have better playback sound than the RH10? Some of the songs I listen to really appear dull while others seem to be pretty normal. Is the lower quality sound of MP3 files a function of playback, and not the recording phase by the RH10?I'm trying to decide what other Hi-MD I'd like to obtain. The NHF800 is sort of interesting with the tuner included. It needs to be a gen 2 Hi-MD or later to get MP3 capability, right? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated."In 2005 Sony presented an update to its Hi-MD devices: native support for the popular MP3 format. Unfortunately, this did not include drag-and-drop capability, but rather required the use of the Sony software to wrap the MP3 files in DRM. A further drawback was that the MP3 playback could be best described as "crippled" — Sony implemented a lowpass on MP3 playback, which could make MP3 sound dull in comparison to ATRAC. Some users say that this was done in hopes of fooling listeners that ATRAC is superior to MP3 to trap their music in ATRAC format."Cheers!Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) [list could be incomplete or contain errors, feel free to correct]1st gen [2004] [no direct mp3 playback, transcoding to atrac required]:- NH600[D]- NH700- NHF800- NH900- NH1- NH3D- EH1- EH930- EH50- EH702nd gen [2005] [lowpassed mp3 playback]:- RH710/DH710- RH910/M10- RH10/M100- DH10P3rd gen [2006] [proper mp3 playback]:- RH1 Edited September 4, 2006 by greenmachine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylen Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 greenmachine: Looking good! I'd add the DH710 to the 2nd gen and since you're including the EH1, I'd also add the EH930, EH50, and EH70 to the 1st gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 updated, thanksvergergc, did you consider to use the equalizer to compensate for the lack of high frequencies, for example 4khz [+1], 10kHz [+2]? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vergergc Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 updated, thanksvergergc, did you consider to use the equalizer to compensate for the lack of high frequencies, for example 4khz [+1], 10kHz [+2]?Yes - I've used the EQ and that makes it okay - most of the time. As for the Gen 3 RH-1 (only model with proper MP3 sound)... didn't I read the display is not well suited for artists, titles, etc. display?Cheers!Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vergergc Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Yes - I've used the EQ and that makes it okay - most of the time. As for the Gen 3 RH-1 (only model with proper MP3 sound)... didn't I read the display is not well suited for artists, titles, etc. display?Cheers!KentOkay - this is a different angle.... when I play an MP3 song off the RH10 through SonicStage, it sounds good! So does the signal take a different route through the USB connection than through the headphone out jack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pata2001 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Okay - this is a different angle.... when I play an MP3 song off the RH10 through SonicStage, it sounds good! So does the signal take a different route through the USB connection than through the headphone out jack? I assume when playing the MP3 via sonicstage, the RH10 is just reading the MP3 as data and passes it through USB, and let Sonicstage+your PC decodes the MP3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunster Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yes - I've used the EQ and that makes it okay - most of the time. As for the Gen 3 RH-1 (only model with proper MP3 sound)... didn't I read the display is not well suited for artists, titles, etc. display?Cheers!KentYou probably read that from particular posts from Rob A. That isn't true about the display. Regardless of not being able to read the titles off the display on the RH1 unit, the unit more than adaquate. When was reading the artist/tracks important? The one line remote gives u sufficient prompting of what artist/track title you're on if you ID them properly in Sonicstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vergergc Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 You probably read that from particular posts from Rob A. That isn't true about the display. Regardless of not being able to read the titles off the display on the RH1 unit, the unit more than adaquate. When was reading the artist/tracks important? The one line remote gives u sufficient prompting of what artist/track title you're on if you ID them properly in Sonicstage.Sounds better.... does the same info show on the unit itself, or just on the remote control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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