biggirl Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 i was erasing some unneeded tracks and all of a sudden it just said "cannot record or play." the only thing i seem to get now is the option to erase the whole disc, but i don't want to. is there a way to get out of this? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 i was erasing some unneeded tracks and all of a sudden it just said "cannot record or play." the only thing i seem to get now is the option to erase the whole disc, but i don't want to. is there a way to get out of this? thanks.for the techies here that could help , they will need the Model of MD that you have and a bit of extra info ( How long you have had it , buy it used or new, How much abuse it has taken ) stuff like that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggirl Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 for the techies here that could help , they will need the Model of MD that you have and a bit of extra info ( How long you have had it , buy it used or new, How much abuse it has taken ) stuff like that .it's a sony minidisc MZ-RH10 that i bought new about a year ago. i haven't abused it, i don't think (never dropped it or tried anything fancy...). i always do the same things with it: listen, record, erase. i actually never really learned how to use it beyond this extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sector001 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 u probably already done this, but did u try another disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 it's a sony minidisc MZ-RH10 that i bought new about a year ago. i haven't abused it, i don't think (never dropped it or tried anything fancy...). i always do the same things with it: listen, record, erase. i actually never really learned how to use it beyond this extent.when you say listen record erase , does that mean you use the same disc repeatedly ? The disc information can get scattered over time and the header file become unreadable, when that happens you have to format the disc , and that restores the index files but erases everything else . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggirl Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 u probably already done this, but did u try another disc?no. the only disc i have is the one that came with the minidisc player. it's possible that the machine is fine, and the disc might also be okay if i just erase it and start all over. the problem is that there is a live performance on there that i don't want to erase if possible.when you say listen record erase , does that mean you use the same disc repeatedly ? The disc information can get scattered over time and the header file become unreadable, when that happens you have to format the disc , and that restores the index files but erases everything else .yes, i've been rerecording the same disc all this time. so i guess there's no option but to erase the disc?i had wanted to transfer files to my computer. then erasing the disc would have been fine, only the software doesn't work with my mac so i was never able to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raintheory Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) This is a known problem with the RH10 (and maybe others):If you have one long track and place track marks around a small section inside the track, delete the trackmarked section, and then combine... You will end up with a trashed disc saying "Cannot Record or Play". There is also the possibility that any extensive editing on the unit may cause this error.This was mentioned some time ago, and I was able to reproduce the problem on my RH10 as well. Not a very friendly bug, as it trashes your entire disc. One possible fix that was mentioned is to press "Stop" after each consecutive edit (trackmarks [stop], delete [stop], combine [stop], etc) allowing the unit to write the system file after each edit. Supposedly this is a workaround that avoids the "Cannot Record or Play", although I haven't tried it myself. The easiest way is to upload the entire recording untouched and do your editing on the PC.-- Also, the RH10 cannot upload files to a Mac. However you can use the newest Mac software (available in the downloads section here in the forums) to transfer Mp3 and WAV files to your RH10. Edited July 23, 2007 by raintheory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggirl Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 This is a known problem with the RH10 (and maybe others):If you have one long track and place track marks around a small section inside the track, delete the trackmarked section, and then combine... You will end up with a trashed disc saying "Cannot Record or Play". There is also the possibility that any extensive editing on the unit may cause this error.This was mentioned some time ago, and I was able to reproduce the problem on my RH10 as well. Not a very friendly bug, as it trashes your entire disc. One possible fix that was mentioned is to press "Stop" after each consecutive edit (trackmarks [stop], delete [stop], combine [stop], etc) allowing the unit to write the system file after each edit. Supposedly this is a workaround that avoids the "Cannot Record or Play", although I haven't tried it myself. The easiest way is to upload the entire recording untouched and do your editing on the PC.-- Also, the RH10 cannot upload files to a Mac. However you can use the newest Mac software (available in the downloads section here in the forums) to transfer Mp3 and WAV files to your RH10.thanks for the info. do you know of any minidisc players that can upload to a mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raintheory Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Hi-MD recorders that can upload to Mac are:MZ-M10 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-M10+RH910.htmlMZ-M100 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-M100+RH10.htmlMZ-RH1 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-RH1.htmlThe MZ-M10 and M100 are essentially the same as the RH910 and your RH10, they just added the Mac upload functionality and they come bundled with microphones I believe. Edited July 23, 2007 by raintheory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 * Moved to Hi-MD section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggirl Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hi-MD recorders that can upload to Mac are:MZ-M10 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-M10+RH910.htmlMZ-M100 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-M100+RH10.htmlMZ-RH1 - http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-RH1.htmlThe MZ-M10 and M100 are essentially the same as the RH910 and your RH10, they just added the Mac upload functionality and they come bundled with microphones I believe.thanks for your help- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raintheory Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 thanks for your help-No problem, we're here to help! Welcome to the forums BTW/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 thanks for your help-Hey Biggirl . I am on a Macbook Pro core2duo and have the RH1 with MD Transfer 2.0 You wont be able to upload discs the arent in HiMD mode , if you do a recording in Standard Mode , You will have to record into the soundcard line input , but if you record in HiMD mode then you will be able to Upload . It is a Shame that the RH10 wont do that , and I appriciate someone verifying the "Bug" llets me know what to watch out for if I get a 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexis Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 It is a Shame that the RH10 wont do that , and I appriciate someone verifying the "Bug" llets me know what to watch out for if I get a 10.The RH-10 is definitely a problematic machine.Mine had this strange bug that I listened to an MP3 Hi-MD for a while, then I switched for another Hi-MD and recorded tracks on it. Then at the end of the recoding, it wrote the system file, and I got a "cannot record or play" error. My while disk was trashed. I looked further and realized that the RH-10 had actually overwritten the tracklist file with the one from the Hi-MD just before. Of course, nothing was consistent with the existing maclist file on the Hi-MD any more, thus the trashed recording. Furthermore, it did the same during some experiments a couple of hours later.I also had this strange bug that once, I was listening to music, and I bumped it on a table (it slipped my hand). after that, the track I was listening to would not play any more - instead, it would scroll through the whole track at high speed. I think somebody had this one too somewhere else in this forum.Anyway, now I won't record with this RH-10 any more - too many problems reported from other people. I was really fond of the RH-10, but now I think it is only good to play tracks from write-protected MDs. This unit seems to damage much too many MDs to be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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