Avrin Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) The RH1 always uploads SP tracks as PCM. Then SonicStage either leaves them as PCM, or converts them to ATRAC3plus 256 kbit/s. There is no way to select any other format from the program interface.Turns out there are registry parameters for this too. Which allow you to upload in any ATRAC3[plus] bitrate. These are located in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sony Corporation\SonicStage\PD\OptimizeSetting\{F7D5CB7D-61E5-4258-AD3B-726DBAB5162C}] key, and are called "UploadATRAC1" and "UploadBitrate". The first one specifies an upload format in hexadecimal (it is set to either 60001 for PCM, or 90012 for ATRAC3plus by the program). The second one specifies a bitrate in hexadecimal, with a decimal value in brackets to the right of it corresponding to the actual bitrate (1411200 for 1411 kbit/s, or 256000 for 256 kbit/s).But there are more options here. The "UploadATRAC1" parameter may be manually set to 90010 for ATRAC3 uploads, while the "UploadBitrate" parameter may be used to specify any possible bitrate for the format selected by the "UploadATRAC1" parameter. (I.e., you cannot specify 132 kbit/s for ATRAC3plus or 64 kbit/s for ATRAC3, and 1411200 only works for PCM).All you need is the following:1. Close SonicStage.2. Go to the above registry key, double click the "UploadATRAC1" parameter name to open the edit window, type 60001 for PCM, 90010 for ATRAC3, or 90012 for ATRAC3plus, and press the OK button.3. Double click the "UploadBitrate" parameter name to open the edit window, set the Base radio button to the Decimal position, type a bitrate with three trailing zeroes (e.g., 132000 for ATRAC3 132 kbit/s, or 64000 for ATRAC3plus 64 kbit/s, the only exception being that you should always use 1411200 for PCM), and press the OK button.4. Start SonicStage. Do not press the "Briefcase" button, or change any NetMD settings via the Tools menu. Proceed directly to uploading from SP discs.If you don't want to modify the registry manually, you may use the REG files from the three attached archives. The PCM.reg and 256.reg files have the same function as the regular drop-down box in SonicStage.No other formats (MP3, WMA, and even ATRAC Advanced Lossless) can be used for direct SP uploads. Believe me, I've tried all codes I know about.ATRAC3.zipATRAC3plus.zipPCM.zip Edited July 30, 2008 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 The RH1 always uploads SP tracks as PCM. Then SonicStage either leaves them as PCM, or converts them to ATRAC3plus 256 kbit/s. There is no way to select any other format from the program interface.Turns out there are registry parameters for this too. Which allow you to upload in any ATRAC3[plus] bitrate.Terrific work! Have you just done this? Or.....I was thinking in the car driving home from holiday about the NetMD/RH1 upload thing. Have you tried substituting the NETMD052.SYS driver so that your NH600 loads it? I'm going to try something along those lines as soon as I have a chance.Once again, this is marvellous news, means one can really control the uploading part. Now if I (and maybe 1Kyle) can dig into the whole USB thing, perhaps there's some chance we can do some neat stuff....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Have you just done this? Or.....Yes, I've just discovered this yesterday, while (unsuccessfully) trying to find a solution to the problem described here: http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=21397Have you tried substituting the NETMD052.SYS driver so that your NH600 loads it?The NH600 and the NH3D work perfectly with the NETMD052.sys driver, but still won't upload SP.Once again, this is marvellous news, means one can really control the uploading part.Not completely. The actual SP upload process is always the same - the RH1 decodes SP to PCM, and sends this PCM to the computer. Then SonicStage either leaves it as PCM, or converts it to ATRAC3[plus]. But the latter part has nothing to do with the actual upload process - it is just a conversion. Same as if you would upload to PCM, and then convert the files using the Convert Format... function. Edited July 30, 2008 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoe25 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "The RH1 always uploads SP tracks as PCM. Then SonicStage either leaves them as PCM, or converts them to ATRAC3plus 256 kbit/s. There is no way to select any other format from the program interface."HiCan you tell me how to select PCM from the interface without going into the registry of the computer please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Tools->Options->Transfer->NetMD->Transfer Settings...->Advanced...->Import Settings->Format for importing non-MDLP tracks.Or simply use the PCM.reg file from the PCM.zip archive attached to my first message. Edited August 5, 2008 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Tools->Options->Transfer->NetMD->Transfer Settings...->Advanced...->Import Settings->Format for importing non-MDLP tracks.Or simply use the PCM.reg file from the PCM.zip archive attached to my first message.Not sure exactly why you'd want thisUploading an SP disc into WAV is no problem. Then convert it to FLAC (gives much better compression - and lossless).Winamp will play FLAC directly so you can (in real time) using optical out from computer to optical in on a MD unit record again in SP mode with minimal (if any) loss in quality.Even easier --if you have a CD==>MD dual deck type of unit you can create a CD directly from the FLAC file. Then use the deck to create a SP MD if you want to. The later decks will read CD RW so you don't even need to use CD-R's either.I don't recommend storing permanently ANY music in the SS database. It's much easier to store in a common lossless format where you can then manipulate the files any way you want to. Simply use SS for editing tracks or a temporary storage repository - you can then delete the music files after you've done the wav ==> FLAC conversion.(BTW as you can now get 350GB of disk storage for as little as 90 USD / 50 GBP / 62 EUR there really isn't any point in keeping loads of highly compressed music files on your computer. Storing in a Lossless format will allow you to do anything you like to the music files and transfer to any new type of equipment you might get in the future without a great deal of "re-ripping".Cheers-k Edited August 5, 2008 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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