VINES?

[zahne]

Anyone want to do a Vine? A Vine is found on a lot of tape trading sites. Essentially you take a live CD or other music CD and pass it along to others for burning etc. So if I was the original provider, my name would be at the top of the list. If you post and say "count me in!" Then I'll add your name to the list of the initial post. Whoever has the CD at present will contact the next person on this list and say "send me your addy and it'll be on its way to you!" So if I make the initial offer and I pass it on the next person on the list then they pass it on to the person following them. There are only a few rules:

1) If the next person doesn't get back to you after a predetermined amount of time then you move on to the next person.

2) You can't keep the original.

3) You can only hold on to the original for a predetermined amount of time.

4) Everyone pays for their own shipping. Meaning you pay for it to be shipped to you. Or you pay in blanks. I.E. if it costs $2 to ship the CD to you, then send 2 blanks to the shipper for expenses.

Anyone else familiar with these things? I think it would be neat and serve as a great MD community event, get to know other people's names and interact more frequently. It'd be really neat how long the vine could get too! Plus if anyone else knows what I'm talking about, perhaps you can explain it better!

[sfbp]

Are you suggesting passing around MD's?

[Strungup]

The problem is your making a publicly known list , of Names , That the RIAA if they wanted to would be able to track down quite easily .

You specifically mention " Live Recordings " which without the Performers consent would be directly illegal and unethical ..........

I use to be one of those performers , and have discussions with other musicians who feel very much the same way .

Not to be a bubble buster but .............. When you record a Live event for your OWN keepsake , it isnt as big of a deal , and nobody comes looking ........ But when you start Passing it around , and GIVING AWAY music that the artists should be getting paid for ........ Now we have a Problem . And I can firmly tell you you would not be wanting to be at a table having beer , with these guys and then mention casually ( without knowing whom you were speaking too ....... That you were GIVING away THEIR product .

Edited June 22, 2009 by Guitarfxr

[zahne]

I thought of that, but the issue is that not everyone has a second MD unit to copy one from the other. So I was thinking of a CD to recorded to MD. Then again, anyone can anything they want with the CD right? So maybe we should pass an MD down from person to person provided that we make sure everyone has the ability to make MS copies. I'm not sure if people are concerned with the quality loss of MD copies, I personally don't mind.

Alright I guess this is out. How about something completely different. What if we made a chain MD? An MD is passed down from person to person and each new person adds a track of original material. This could be music, an audio comedy sketch or any other clip that is produced by the person recording the track. What do you think of that?

[Strungup]

I thought of that, but the issue is that not everyone has a second MD unit to copy one from the other. So I was thinking of a CD to recorded to MD. Then again, anyone can anything they want with the CD right? So maybe we should pass an MD down from person to person provided that we make sure everyone has the ability to make MS copies. I'm not sure if people are concerned with the quality loss of MD copies, I personally don't mind.

Alright I guess this is out. How about something completely different. What if we made a chain MD? An MD is passed down from person to person and each new person adds a track of original material. This could be music, an audio comedy sketch or any other clip that is produced by the person recording the track. What do you think of that?

That I would agree with , Each adds 1 thing , but , to take and distribute what a musician is trying to make a living at is wrong , that is why we buy tix to a concert , or we buy the CD or LP whatever it is on .

I am associative ( Not Close ,But .......) friends with Derek Trucks , Have played with Marcus Miller , Kirk Whalum , Kirks Uncle for a year doing dinner Jazz, Johnathon Butler back on his first CD tour , and sat in on Jazz sessions that included Wynton Marsalis , who blew his Trumpet right in my ear at point , cause he had his eyes closed and was DEEEPP in a solo ............ That hurt .

I Knew Wynton and Branford's Daddy ,...... lived right across the street from where he was teaching had coffee with him in the mornings on a NUMBER of occasions ...... Ellis Marsalis was a genius , that was a serious musical mind ...........

My Customers , people who I have done repair for , that list is long it would take a week to type it out

But a few smaller names whom I would like to promote so they can get known , Mercy Creek , Her stuff is on iTunes as well ( I think ) ,Great Train Robbery ( When Will Mcyntyre was Lead player) they open a lot for 38 Special and Lynyrd Skynyrd .

A Lot of the Bluegrass Players in VA , Pennsylvania , NC ... etc , have been through my shop

So Believe me when I say I know how these guys feel about their music getting ripped off .

A Woman in the US was just recently sued by the RIAA for 1.9 million dollars ...... for downloading 24 songs .

She lost ........... so think about what your asking the guys here on the board to do very carefully .

[zahne]

Then how about it? Let's get this started! I'll post the event and rules up.