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Recently, I have been trying to compress music onto a single CD.

I keep hearing that Atrac Advance Lossless codec was useful for compressing music.

Problem: CODEC, not software, so I have have to figure out what to use with it....

ANY HELP HERE!?!?!? [sound of hair being pulled in frustration] :shok::help:

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ATRAC Advanced Lossless is a bit of marketing BS, I've found. It's not really that useful. It sounds like you're not using Minidisc so it is even less useful to you. The answer to your question requires you give us more information such as how much music you're trying to fit on one CD and how concerned you are with playback quality.

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ATRAC Advanced Lossless is a bit of marketing BS, I've found. It's not really that useful. It sounds like you're not using Minidisc so it is even less useful to you. The answer to your question requires you give us more information such as how much music you're trying to fit on one CD and how concerned you are with playback quality.

Interesting....

Sounds like I have a larger problem than I thought...

I noticed that Windows Media Player seems to have that "bit of marketing BS" when it said that it can burn up to nearly 47 HOURS of music onto a single disc in its option menu. Either that, or I am supposed to use those special "High Capacity" CDs in order for it to work.

If possible, I am searching for compression software that will not only give good quality, but put a large amount of music on a single CD. Last time I heard that one company was capable of making a compression program that was capable of fitting nearly 400 songs on a single CD.

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to put that amount of songs on a CD requires using an absurdly low bitrate, whether you can hear the difference is anothe matter. Get a cd, record the same song at many reduced bitrates, and playback at random without looking what is being played, and see when you notice the difference. I have a cd that I found on the road!! one day, put it on and started listening, in the end it was about twelve hours of county. for background it's alright, but even these 57 YO ears can tell that it is not Hi-Fi,

try for yourself

Bob

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Not quite what you are asking, but in my experience AAL is a good intermediate to rip to for subsequent burning of both MD's and CD's for listening.

In particular: you can get 16 hours of MDLP2 onto a single 1GB MD, and the LP2 plays quite well on all HiMD units.

In particular: you can burn about 6 hours of 256K Atrac3+ onto a single CD for listening in the car, and the result beats the pants off anything else I have heard including MD, in the car. The only problem with this option is that you can never get the data off the disk again, it's a one way trip. However this could be viewed as an advantage in this day of crime - I lost $400 of real CD's from my car last fall, and no one is going to steal an Atrac CD, heheh.

Why AAL (apart from that it CAN be played on a few Sony units)? Because it takes up less space than WAV, and if you rip to "352k AAL", then going back to 1411 is reliable, according to Sony - and I believe them.

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Interesting....

Sounds like I have a larger problem than I thought...

I noticed that Windows Media Player seems to have that "bit of marketing BS" when it said that it can burn up to nearly 47 HOURS of music onto a single disc in its option menu. Either that, or I am supposed to use those special "High Capacity" CDs in order for it to work.

If possible, I am searching for compression software that will not only give good quality, but put a large amount of music on a single CD. Last time I heard that one company was capable of making a compression program that was capable of fitting nearly 400 songs on a single CD.

Actually, I was wondering if you can expand on what you're trying to accomplish. Sometimes knowing what the ultimate goal is can reveal ways to get there that you may not have thought of. People will often come to me with a problem--"How do I get lots of music on a single CD?"--when the root problem is "I have this specific situation and it requires that I only carry 1 or 2 things" or something of that nature. Can you back track a bit and tell us why you want to pack a lot onto one CD?

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Why AAL (apart from that it CAN be played on a few Sony units)? Because it takes up less space than WAV, and if you rip to "352k AAL", then going back to 1411 is reliable, according to Sony - and I believe them.

I think FLAC is a superior lossless format. Nearly every reason why it is superior can be ultimately backtracked to "it's open-source". There's quite a bit more hardware and software support for it--the number of devices and programs that support FLAC grows all the time. It's claims to "lossless" can be more easily scrutinized. I'm sure I could think of more--but it'll have to wait as I just got back from a party and I'm suffering from post-carbohydrate gorging crash. Perhaps someone else could help me out. Avrin?

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Try WMA Lossless or FLAC. Same sound, less space.

That being said, your ears are the best judge. Some people like using ATRAC 64 Kbps and say that sounds fine to them. (How? Just... how??? :P ). Others think/feel MP3 at 320 is transparent enough to be enjoyed in mid-fi environments. Others can tell the difference between Ogg at 700 kbps and an uncompressed source.

I myself stick to 256 kbps and above, regardless of format.

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