rocklegend_ Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well for some reason the problem has come back.....When I tried to import my mp3 library I get an error saying that sonicstage cannot import files that are not registered to sonicstage.....Anyone know what this means......I´ve just upgraded from 3.4 to 4.0......also this could be the reason why Sonicstage 4.0 won´t play mp3´s......I´m really getting pissed of with this absolute awful software....I thought that Sony got it´s house in order....that iPod and iTunes is becoming more and more appealing everyday.....please guys,Help me someone´s gotta know what the hell is goin´g on....I´ve spent the last week installing and re-installing all the different versions of Sonicstage....Sonicstage 3.4 kept of crashing after launching and now this with Sonicstage 4.0...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerfuffle Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) The only message I get is that SonicStage cannot find any music files that are not already registered with SonicStage, meaning that all my music files are already in My Library, and that there are no new files to add. Here's the exact wording:Cannot find music files that are not registered to SonicStage.(Error Code: 00007180)So that would mean that all your MP3s are already in your library, and that you don't need to import them again. Edited June 15, 2006 by kerfuffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 This misleading message appears when some files, which were previously imported, are manually deleted from disk, without removing them from My Library Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 This misleading message appears when some files, which were previously imported, are manually deleted from disk, without removing them from My LibraryBut these files are not deleted from my Hard Drive.....they play perfectly with WMP10..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 You may have deleted some other files. And SonicStage gets hysterical because of that. Check that My Library does not contain non-existing files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 You may have deleted some other files. And SonicStage gets hysterical because of that. Check that My Library does not contain non-existing files.I haven´t deleted any files.....all my mp3´s are now in my library in Sonicstage but Sonicstage won´t play them because it says that they are not registered to Sonicstage....I´ve just done a complete uninstall and re-installed Sonicstage 4.0.....still the same Problem....it won´t play mp3´s whle WMP10 and Quicktime have no problems.....I also have the codec which Sonicstage uses to decode mp3s installed on my PC.... MPEG Layer-3 audio coding technology and patents licensed from Fraunhofer IIS and Thomson.My patience grows thinner day by day...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSP62 Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 ....My patience grows thinner day by day......While the software/support sucks big time, there is a dicipline to be learned to deal with "The Madness" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 While the software/support sucks big time, there is a dicipline to be learned to deal with "The Madness"Software sucks big time.....Sony sent me an e-mail stating that they can´t help me.....talk about tech support.....Why won´t Sonicstage CP 4.0 play mp3´s................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Have you installed/uninstalled Sound Forge recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 No I haven´t installed Uninstalled Sound Forge....Would this help my problem..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Sound Forge intallation/uninstallation sometimes messes with MP3 codecs. In any case, try completely reinstalling Windows Media Player, whichever version you have, even if you are not using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Why do I need to uninstall Windows Media player...Sonicstage worked pefectly before with Windows media player already installed....the problem is that I went back to SS 3.4 had problems such as it was crashing and then reinstalled SS 4.0 and now it won´t play mp3´s and on some already ripped Atrac tracks is says that it needs the license in order to play tracks....maybe it needs the same also with mp3´s.....but I think it´s a codec porblem but I have the correct codec installed that SS 4.0 needs to use in order to play mp3´s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 One may never know what SS actually needs. Reinstalling Windows Media Player helps restoring all its codecs (including MP3) and their settings.It seems to me that you did not delete your database, when going back from SS40 to SS34. In this case there is a 100% chance that it has become corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSP62 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Wise words for the Sony DAP users: IF IT ISN'T BROKE, DON'T TRY TO FIX IT!aka, if your current SS version is working, then don't upgrade.BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP...Oh did I forget to mention, BACK UP your library before doing anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 It´s very difficult to uninstall Windows Media pplayer as it just does a Roll back to the previous player...Quote-IF IT ISN'T BROKE, DON'T TRY TO FIX IT!aka, if your current SS version is working, then don't upgrade.-QuoteWise words but if Sony´s software wasn´t as Bad as Sonicstage there wouldn´t for all these problems...As for backing up my Library....my Library wasn´t damaged....only Sonicstage refuses to play the music because it´s in mp3 format..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) Rolling back to the previous version of Windows Media Player is fine. Just reinstall the latest version (and all its security patches) after that.As for database corruption. You can not actually see whether it is corrupt or not. But each upgrade (such as S34->SS40) introduces structural changes to the database, and the changed database will not work correclty under the previous version anymore. Even upgrading again will not help. Application database downgrades (under Oracle, SQL Server, or MS Access that SS actually uses) are not generally possible. In some cases they may be performed, but only with close participation of the developers, who know the exact changes in structure and data between versions. Believe a former DB Admin! And the SS database has a really crazy and inefficient structure (two files, each containing only three tables, one of which contains almost all information). And there really were data structure changes between SS34 and SS40, introducing Artist Link, new file formats, and probably some others.I would advice you to uninstall SS completely (program, shared files, registry entries, database, etc., possibly even drivers), and then perform a clean install from scratch. Look for detailed SS uninstallation procedures in this forum or MDCF. And DO NOT use the Backup Tool anymore - it will backup the corrupt structure without knowing it. Just copy all your music files to a safe location (it will be easier for you, since you have MP3s, and not DRM'ed ATRACs), and re-import them after reinstalling the program. Edited June 25, 2006 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Rolling back to the previous version of Windows Media Player is fine. Just reinstall the latest version (and all its security patches) after that.As for database corruption. You can not actually see whether it is corrupt or not. But each upgrade (such as S34->SS40) introduces structural changes to the database, and the changed database will not work correclty under the previous version anymore. Even upgrading again will not help. Application database downgrades (under Oracle, SQL Server, or MS Access that SS actually uses) are not generally possible. In some cases they may be performed, but only with close participation of the developers, who know the exact changes in structure and data between versions. Believe a former DB Admin! And the SS database has a really crazy and inefficient structure (two files, each containing only three tables, one of which contains almost all information). And there really were data structure changes between SS34 and SS40, introducing Artist Link, new file formats, and probably some others.I would advice you to uninstall SS completely (program, shared files, registry entries, database, etc., possibly even drivers), and then perform a clean install from scratch. Look for detailed SS uninstallation procedures in this forum or MDCF. And DO NOT use the Backup Tool anymore - it will backup the corrupt structure without knowing it. Just copy all your music files to a safe location (it will be easier for you, since you have MP3s, and not DRM'ed ATRACs), and re-import them after reinstalling the program.I´ve done all of this and still no joy....It will now import my Library no problems but SS just hangs when I want to play mp3´s.....I did a clean uninstall....even reverted back to the old Windows Media Player.....mp3´s both play in WMP and Winamp no problems....Also in Realplayer....except this piece of shit that Sony calls Software...not even Sony can help me....great customer service.....If I can´t find a solution to this iPod and iTunes here I come becuase it´s has now been 4 weeks with this problem after clean uninstall-Reinstall about 50 times this piece of shit called Sonicstage still won´t work.....mp3´s play in all of the Media Prgrams that I have so why not Sonicstage.....I´m fucking Furious with this Software..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSP62 Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 ................. still no joy....It will now import my Library no problems but SS just hangs when I want to play mp3´s.....I did a clean uninstall....even reverted back to the old Windows Media Player.....mp3´s both play in WMP and Winamp no problems....Also in Realplayer....except this piece of shit that Sony calls Softw.................Do a search with database as your peramter. There are a few posts that I mentioned about trying to save your database. I got it to work for me once, but the second time it was beyond repair. I ended up backing up all my MP3s all over from regular CD(MP3) format to DVD format. What used to be 24+ CD, has now come to be only 6DVDs. All tracks have been tagged and should my DAP crap out again, all I have to do is load my 6 DVDs again. Trust me I got this down to a science now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Now this is fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Now this is fun...Not really as I still don´t know what the problem is......I´ve spent the day trying different Versions of Sonicstage and it all ends up with the same result....Sonicstage hangs when trying to play mp3´s.......this culdn´t be just a codec problem but Sonicstage does play Atrac and Wav files...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSP62 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) Now this is fun...Not really as I still don´t know what the problem is......I´ve spent the day trying different Versions of Sonicstage and it all ends up with the same result....Sonicstage hangs when trying to play mp3´s.......this culdn´t be just a codec problem but Sonicstage does play Atrac and Wav files...... Are you sure your MP3s are not loaded in VBR - variable bit rate format? Edited June 26, 2006 by JSP62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) If it simply hangs, this may signify a problem with DirectX or audio drivers. I had the same problem when trying to play WAVs in SS40. Open Device Manager, select View->Show hidden devices, View->Show devices by connection, and keep the window visible when trying to play an MP3 in SS. If you see any movement in the window (such as finding new devices, or moving existing devices to other positions), this means that you have problems with DirectX or audio driver installation. Edited June 26, 2006 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Are you sure your MP3s are not loaded in VBR - variable bit rate format?How Can I Check.....If it simply hangs, this may signify a problem with DirectX or audio drivers. I had the same problem when trying to play WAVs in SS40. Open Device Manager, select View->Show hidden devices, View->Show devices by connection, and keep the window visible when trying to play an MP3 in SS. If you see any movement in the window (such as finding new devices, or moving existing devices to other positions), this means that you have problems with DirectX or audio driver installation.Well I did this and I didn´t notice any movement...if you could be a bit more specific that could be great....The thing is that when I click to play mp3´s there´s a circular icon moving in the My Library bar but nothing is happening....and when I click to play something else Sonicstage just hangs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSP62 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 How Can I Check.....When you play your track on winamp the bitrate changes and never stays the same, hence VARIABLE BIT RATE.SS cannot play these types. You will need to convert to a consistant rate - 128, 160, 192 etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) Does Device Manager show any "unknown devices"? In any case try reinstalling/upgrading audio drivers and/or DirectX. Edited June 26, 2006 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Got great news.....I´ve solved the problem.....the problem was that Sonicstage 4.0 corrupted my files when I changed back to 3.4 and also Creative mediasource re-ID´d my MP3´S and when I removed the Creative soundcard and all of it´s programs it messed up the Audio Codec so I reinstalled Windows without reformating my Hard drive and Sonicstage is working like a dream.It´s playing mp3´s and transfering them to my HD5....I wpuld like to thank ye for your help....if anyone else has this problem they´ll need to reinstall Windows XP from their XP Disc and Windows will fix everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Glad to hear that you've solved your problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocklegend_ Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thanks for helping me out............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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