MD4ME Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Hi, Recently bought a MZ-RH1 off an aution site and whilst it records/plays and uploads Hi-MD discs onto my compiuter, it wont upload my old 74/80 min discs unless i've recorded them myself. Is there something in the settings that i'm missing ? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azureal Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I believe that is by design. Only uploads of SP and MDLP recorded through the Optical or analog (mic or line level) inputs. Anything placed on a disk using NetMD, whether HiMD or Standard MD is not upload-able.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Thanks for your reply Azureal. I bought this player as back up for my current MZ-RH1, that one uploads any old disc in any format, seems strange this one is reluctant to do the same, apart from H-Md discs and my own recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think that must be a bit of an exaggeration. Can you be precise about a track or album that CAN be uploaded with one RH1 but CANNOT be with the new one, and tell: a. how the music arrived on the disk? (Sonic Stage, Simple Burner, recording from optical, analog etc) b. what format was used? (HiSP,HiLP,PCM,SP,LP2,LP4 etc) c. whether the PC you made it on was the same as the PC you now have connected to the RH1 trying to read the disk? It's quite possible that you managed to come up with a combination of actions which is considered a copyright-infringing upload. There's usually a way round it, but maybe you should try to tell us what you are doing, in detail. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hi, for instance, i have a pre recorded (factory original) MD, the one MZ-RH1 is able to upload the tracks into sonicstage the one i've just bought cant. Stange, yet both will upload any 1GB disc that i have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 That is totally bizarre. Next question: can the "failing" machine actually PLAY this disk? CD's are a special case in any event, requiring special settings of the laser on each and every unit when adjustment is done. I was totally surprised that I was permitted (by Sonic Stage) to upload from the one CD that I have. MO's (recordable minidiscs) may be quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yep, both machines can play the disc, only one can upload it onto sonicstage. I was always under the impression that the MZ-RH1 can upload any disc in any format, if thats not the case what are its limitations supposed to be ? They seem a rather unreliable (or maybe just unpredictable !) unit to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 This makes no sense at all. Almost as if (and I say "as if" because I currently don't believe it!) Sony fitted out different versions of RH1 to have different restrictions. Perhaps there's something here we're missing. You literally unplug one RH1 and substitute another to the SAME USB CONNECTOR? Then putting the disk in... Questions: 1. what DISC MODE is the disk in (it's an NVRAM setting you can change), in both units? It's possible you have stumbled on something here. I'm thinking perhaps one machine is set to NetMD, the other to HiMD. 2. Do you have anything unusual installed on USB? In particular have you installed Nero Backitup 4? This has a very sneaky USB watcher that may have some strange effects unless you disable the service (from Services in Computer Management). Very intriguing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yep, using the same USB cable with the two machines side by side. I think you have a valid point in Q1, its as though the two recorders are configured differently, to be honest, i'm not much a "techie", so i dont know how to check the settings. There aren't any unusual progs on my computer to interfere with the USB connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 The menu modes are fully documented. The entry you want is called "Disc Mode" see page 59. The manual's available here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted November 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Just checked the disc mode and they both read "Hi-MD Hi-SP" when inserting a blank 74min MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 You have to check the disc mode using the menu. That HiMD Hi-SP "just" (awful word) means that is the default format WHEN YOU PUT A BLANK DISK IN. So that may well mean they are both set the same. However I would suggest: a. listening to the PC speaker to hear the HiMD USB connection go down and the MD USB connection come up (in sequence) as you insert a legacy MD (LP2, LP4 or SP) into an RH1 configured as HiMD. b. changing the "disc mode" on the failing machine to MD and seeing if it still fails. c. attempting to play music using Sonic Stage on an MD (you will have to listen on the headphones). If the music comes out of the PC speakers, then, as you probably know, it's not an MD. I'm actually thinking there might be some confusion here about how the RH1 treats a blank disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Very strange Indeed. In response to "a", when connecting the "faulty" player to the computer (without a disc), there's a triple tone through the speakers and a dual tone on disconnecting, and it isn't recognised in sonic stage, whereas the other "good" player emits a dual tone when being connected and disconnected ! The Disc mode doesn't seem to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4ME Posted December 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 WOW ! Seem to have resolved this issue by using the device manager in system properties, and re-installing the NetMD driver ! Well chuffed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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