zahne Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Hi, I'm using a HiMD M100 unit I recently picked up. I was listening to an Mp3 today and I noticed these hiccups sounds in the recording. I know I've heard this sound before in Mp3s before. It's an artifact of some kind. The strange thing is that it's mp3 of a podcast directly from NPR. I've never had this issue with their mp3s before. I'm wondering if that's the file or the unit. I recall reading that HiMD units that read Mp3s have issues with certain MPEG layer MP3s. Is that the issue here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 MP3 sound is crippled on the RH10/M100. How can you tell "hiccups?" It's recommend to convert MP3 --> ATRAC3plus 256 or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahne Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Thanks for the reply. How do you mean crippled? It officially supports MP3, do you mean it just does a poor job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yes, as many have complained of/pointed out, MP3 playback on the 2nd generation Hi-MDs (RH10/910/710 or M equivalents) isn't very good, either deliberately or by poor implementation. It's apparently much better with the RH1 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahne Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Interesting. Thanks to you both for the feedback. If the RH1 also had AAC, I'd probably consider hunting down one. Do those Onkyo decks support Mp3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 No - only ATRAC unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahne Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Hmm, seems like if Hi-MD lasted longer it would have had a more unified and robust support system for these things. It got live through three gens but it probably needed one more gen to be really modern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 The fact that Sony had to remove significant functionality from the 2Gen machines (SP recording) in order to provide MP3 playback probably implies they faced some significant engineering challenges, which were not resolved until the RH1 (3Gen) which has a LOT more NVRAM and DRAM on board. I don't much like conspiracy theories; often there were significant reasons forcing the players in a drama to take certain actions which afterwards someone claims was a conspiracy, by putting everyone's motives through the blender first. I have argued before the same general proposition about Sony's determination to encrypt and protect their uploaded music. It's also possible that the reason the MP3 reproduction wasn't so good in the first revisions of machines which had it, was that the hardware was not quite fast enough. More RAM, more processor power - what's the difference? - in many cases those amount to the same, as many will testify for PC operating systems. Sound Forge can interchange pretty well seamlessly between MP3 and ATRAC without any (to me) obvious shortcomings. Many of the perceived shortcomings of MD and other portable recorders are either a. in the microphones which have limited frequency range or b. In the conversion made to some existing music when the recorder was tested by a listening panel of experts. I'm certain Sony got shafted on the latter; having seen how easy it is to do all by myself. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Hmm, seems like if Hi-MD lasted longer it would have had a more unified and robust support system for these things. It got live through three gens but it probably needed one more gen to be really modern. Honestly, i quit using minidisc units to play MP3s. I went and just bought a Sony MP3 player. It has great overall sound quality and 16GB of space and it will play MP3s flawlessly and no software required. Just rip your CDs with iTunes VBR MP3 encoding and drag them to your player via windows explorer. It's a lot faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 NWZ-S545 is the model number. Also has 6-band equalizer with Clear Bass (not as strong as Mega Bass, but it does the job). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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