Sony_Fan Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 This ebay seller is selling standard minidiscs with music recorded on them, with a label of the type of music that is recorded. He is getting bids on them. How is this different than selling a CD-R copy of an original CD??? http://www.ebay.com/sch/cu2d/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azureal Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't personally see much of a difference, especially at $5.99 per disk. That doesn't seem right ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't personally see much of a difference, especially at $5.99 per disk. That doesn't seem right ... If it was legal, you can take a rare minidisc and record popular music in ATRAC SP 292kpbs and advertise that on ebay and it would get more bids than if the minidisc was left blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahne Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I see MDs listed with music on them all the time. I even make labels like this myself. But still, I think the issue is how it's being presented. If it was listing blanks that happen to have music on them and happen to have home made labels, all of a sudden it's less of a big deal. As long as people understand they aren't buying the real thing, it's their money to waste. I don't think the music industry is going to get hit hard by a MiniDisc bootlegger. The only real issue is if he's getting money by duping people. If so, then he needs to be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 This one is a kind of little genius to sell it "as if" it is original music, a good way to sell MDs one by one at a price more expensive than a brand new MD blank one. But sure, it also could be considered like an illegal auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 In general, you cannot legally sell or distribute copies of copyrighted material in the United States without the author/creator's permission. If these MDs contain the artists' original material, then selling them online is asking for trouble. Even if it's NOT original material, there are legal issues with covers of songs. It makes no difference if the original was on a CD and you are selling an MD copy of it. That is a big no-no. If it weren't, we could swap copyrighted material on MDs right here. You can legally copy any copyrighted recorded material that you own for yourself. I have always wondered about music CDs I borrow from the public library - whether I have a right to copy them. It turns out that you cannot do that legally. Fortunately, the Library Police are in short supply ! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahne Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 In general, you cannot legally sell or distribute copies of copyrighted material in the United States without the author/creator's permission. If these MDs contain the artists' original material, then selling them online is asking for trouble. Even if it's NOT original material, there are legal issues with covers of songs. It makes no difference if the original was on a CD and you are selling an MD copy of it. That is a big no-no. If it weren't, we could swap copyrighted material on MDs right here. You can legally copy any copyrighted recorded material that you own for yourself. I have always wondered about music CDs I borrow from the public library - whether I have a right to copy them. It turns out that you cannot do that legally. Fortunately, the Library Police are in short supply ! ;-) True that this is technically not legal. Though I don't see these Minidisc recordings impacting record sales. As long as he's not tricking anyone, this is a minimal infringement. Way worse things are happening on torrent sites and youtube and even then, not a lot of it is getting enforced. It doesn't impact the industry enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ebay nevertheless prohibits such sales, although it is a kind of toothless prohibition, in that they will enforce it only if the copyright owner complains. "Hello Ebay? This is Blood Sweat and Tears. Remember us? We're complaining about our copyrighted material being sold on MD on Ebay." Not too likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoPimpKiller Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 The seller didn't actually say what kind of music is on it although the picture of the minidisc kind of gives it away. I guess the way the seller looks at is that he is selling a minidisc that happens to have music on it. I didn't see anywhere that it listed what exactly was on it although the picture implies otherwise. I still wouldn't sell them like that though. To me, it's different if you buy a whole lot of minidiscs (like 10 or 50 or 100) that have music on them. I've done that before but I just erased them so I had the blank discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I just happened to come across this article regarding copyrights. It's by James Berardinelli, who writes, among other things, some pretty good movie reviews on reelviews.net: http://www.reelviews.net/reelthoughts.php?identifier=711 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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