BearBoy Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Looks like the 790 uses the same mechanism as the 780. Now to find the service manual for the 770.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Okay, so the 770 has a different mechanism: CD Mechanism Type: CDM66B-DVBU6 Base Unit Name: DVBU-6 Optical Pick-up Name: KHM-230AAA 780/790 have: CD Mechanism Type: CDM66B-DVBU6B Base Unit Name: DVBU-6B Optical Pick-up Name: KHM-234AMA I guess that means a straight swap is probably out of the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Foreign territory for me - can’t correlate drive to the ATRAC version! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Haha 😆 Yeah, I was just applying MD logic to SACD players. Might be absolutely fine for all I'd know. I've done a few more tests and turning the player off for about 10 minutes seems to be sufficient, for now at least, to get it working properly again. I can probably live with that for the time being but it's a tad annoying as I was about to pull the trigger on a Control A1(II) compatible CDP-XB player but am now thinking I should be looking for another SCD-XB instead 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Sounds like laser temperature… making it drift out of cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Once it's read the SACD TOC it appears to be fine and plays without any issues. It's just that initial checking stage where it seems to fail to read the SACD layer so then defaults to the CD one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 I wonder if it’s like MD. On MD there is a pits section on the lead in that is read first to determine the MD type and calibrate laser power. Maybe SACD has something similar. But I have no clue…! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 I know that SACD players initially try to find the SACD layer on any disc you insert and then, if they cannot find one, look for a standard CD layer. This is why they usually take longer to read discs than normal CD players. I don't know where they go looking for the SACD layer though in terms of inner part of the disc/outer part of the disc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 6:11 PM, BearBoy said: I was about to pull the trigger on a Control A1(II) compatible CDP-XB player... Trigger pulled: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Checked the manuals for the Control A1II functionality and, to my dismay, realised I needed a mono 3.5mm cable to connect the CD player to the MiniDisc deck. I had a stereo (TRS) cable to hand so thought I'd give it a go before ordering a mono (TS) one and happily it worked! 🙂 CD Text track titles copied over successfully to the MiniDisc. I was also pleasantly surprised that the ALL CAPS titles on the CD display came over the correct mix of capitals/lower case letters on the MiniDisc. Just need to have a re-organisation of the office set up now to plumb everything in (and hopefully remove some of the surplus black boxes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Yea with ‘recent’ kit you should be fine with a TRS or TS cable. I read in the A1 doc that for ‘very old’ kit implementing Control A (not A1 or A1II) that you needed TS (‘mono’) one end and TRS (‘stereo’) the other if v FFC objecting Control A to Control A1. Glad you got it working 😃 https://www.minidisc.wiki/_media/resources/sony_s-link_control_a1_control_system.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted May 15, 2022 Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 3/13/2022 at 11:38 AM, kgallen said: Tascam MD-350 with Tascam CD-450. The annoying thing here is you can’t connect these directly digitally as the CD only has coax output and the MD only has TOSLINK optical I/O 🤦♂️ Hi guys, "long time no see you" as they say in Vietnam. You can use a Coax to Toslink convertor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 Good to see you again, @PhilippeC 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 "...what CD players people have paired up with their MiniDisc decks." Just a few days ago, I used my MDS-E10 to edit a minidisc (needed some dividing for track marks), and then copied the MD to CD-RW via coax to my working-when-it-feels-like-it Aiwa XC-RW700 standalone recorder. Ultimate destination was iTunes, per spousal request. I'd created the original MD from cassettes and vinyl—contra dance and barn dance tunes from US & UK. The E10 is also connected to a Cambridge Audio DACMagic 100, which brings out its finest qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted May 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 6 hours ago, bluecrab said: I used my MDS-E10 to edit a minidisc (needed some dividing for track marks), and then copied the MD to CD-RW via coax to my working-when-it-feels-like-it Aiwa XC-RW700 standalone recorder. The reverse of how I suspect most MiniDisc decks/CD players were generally connected 😉 I don't have much experience with standalone CD recorders but I've always assumed it was far easier to perform edits etc on a MiniDisc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 17 hours ago, BearBoy said: The reverse of how I suspect most MiniDisc decks/CD players were generally connected 😉 I don't have much experience with standalone CD recorders but I've always assumed it was far easier to perform edits etc on a MiniDisc? I have used them both ways, CD > MD & MD > CD, the latter to enable ripping the result into iTunes. This was a project that took about two years. I even have a folder in iTunes devoted to that effort: "MD/CD Heaven." The editing abilities of minidisc completely surpass those of CD, where there isn't much you can do post-recording. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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