Tomdigital Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Well I have read the threads on uploading from the new HIMD players. I have already ordered the 900 and am waiting for it to arrive, should be another week or so. I mostly use the MD recorder to record Live concerts, also the main reason for buying the new device is the improved quality and the abilty to transfer the files to PC to then cut them etc. Now it seems that through DRM I will not be able to do this. This truly sucks. I really hope that either Sony or some Hacker soon publishes a possibility to convert the files to Wav. Anyone found a way of doing this yet? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Welcome! :happy: There is a way to upload your recordings. Unfortunately, it's not as fast as a USB upload, but it's along the same guidelines. Hi-MD devices have the capability to play back audio through USB [digitally]. You can take advantage of this process by another program such as Adobe Audition, Audacity via capturing that audio and converting it into wav, hence a pure digital upload. The only negative? It's realtime. Supposedly Sony will release a conversion program so you will be able to upload seamlessly, but don't hold your breath. :rasp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomdigital Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Thanks Kurisu, the possibility to grab the digital sound in realtime via USB makes me a bit happier. I was really worried that I made a mistake in ordering thenew Recorder. But I still hope they will release a Wave converter soon. All this DRM is really getting on my nerves. If you want to steal music you can still do it. But all this DRM makes it a pain in the... for people who want to legally use the MDs. Like musicians wanting to do Demos and editing them on the PC etc. All this has become more difficult. The recording industry survived tapedecks and they should survive Atrac and Mp3 since these formats are not lossless. Therefore it is like making a tape. It is not an exact Digital copy. Ah well now I am rambling... thanks for your help, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Would i be able to capture the audio via USB (real-time) with software such at SoundForge or Steinberg Nuendo? If so, any tips on how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoleavitt Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Will this real-time USB transfer work on a Mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Will this real-time USB transfer work on a Mac?No. See http://forums.minidisc.org/viewtopic.php?t=4207 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Would i be able to capture the audio via USB (real-time) with software such at SoundForge or Steinberg Nuendo? If so, any tips on how?Look for a product called Total Recorder. This is what I'm currently using - it has its own recorder applet, which you can save to .wav from and then edit in the application of your choice. And it doesn't cost much, either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 great! Will the standard edition do? That one is free. I can't wait to try it out ... as soon as i get my 900!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 How do you assign a USB port to be one of the recording inputs that Total Recorder uses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 You don't. You use Sonicstage to play the Hi-MD while it's connected. It "plays" digitally over USB and is routed to your sound card [or Total Recorder's driver, in this case]. If you connect the Hi-MD adn go into the "transfer' window in SS, you will notice the play controls about the playlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 OK, i'll have to try it when i get my MD. Thanks, i'll let you know how it goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 How do you assign the USB port to Total Recorder? I can't get Total Recorder to recognize the sound coming in through SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 How do you assign the USB port to Total Recorder? I can't get Total Recorder to recognize the sound coming in through SS.I don't exactly understand your question. When you play from the Hi-MD using SonicStage, it routes the audio [digitally] to your sound card. The USB port doesn't show up anywhere as an audio device [because it isn't one]. Total Recorder captures the stream put out of whatever you're playing from. Perhaps there's a setting in there that isn't correct. If you want to PM me with your settings I'll look at mine and let you know if there's a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 OK, thanks. I've figured it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Goodgood. Happy recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekdroid Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Looking for a freeware alternative to Total Recorder? VanRecord 1.0 is a great "does the job", simple alternative. Get it at one of these Simtel mirrors: http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mir...rs.php?id=72067 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Does anyone konw if you can do this on a Mac with WireTap software, a freeeware by Ambrosia Software? I have a G5 with OS X 10.3.4. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Looking for a freeware alternative to Total Recorder? VanRecord 1.0 is a great "does the job", simple alternative.How is this supposed to help? It only lets me select analogue sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Looking for a freeware alternative to Total Recorder? VanRecord 1.0 is a great "does the job", simple alternative. Get it at one of these Simtel mirrors: http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mir...rs.php?id=72067 Analog only? That's no good. Audacity is free and lets you do digital. :happy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 People keep pointing to Audacity as being able to do this, but - how? The only sources it allows on my machine are analogue. If I try to use the TR driver to record in Audacity, it doesn't work. So how do you get to digital sources in Audacity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 People keep pointing to Audacity as being able to do this, but - how? The only sources it allows on my machine are analogue. If I try to use the TR driver to record in Audacity, it doesn't work. So how do you get to digital sources in Audacity?Actually, I don't really know, but several people have assured me that you can do this. I've never done digital recordings on my own PC; usually I did them on a friend's PC through his MD deck and to his sound card and Soundforge. So... o.O I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 VanRecord is quite limited. It is not even possible to set the bitrate for the encoder... Audacity, Nero Mediaplayer et al: The source to record is selected in the Mixer panel. A single / double click on the Volume control brings it up, then select Options --> Properties and in the following dialogue select Record from the three radiobuttons. In the listbox below, you'll select, which channels to be shown, make sure, that Wave is checked. Confirm with OK. Now you see all recordable inputs lined up nicely in the mixer, check the box under the control in the Wave channel, set the slider to 100%. The USB-Audio from the recorder is played out on the Wave-channel. Almost all recording software relies on the mixer panel and its input selection. If additional effects software has been installed , when you installed your soundcard-driver, make sure, that it is deactivated. When you're through with that, start your Wave-software, start SonicStage, insert disc, then start recording in your Wave-software and immediately then start playback in SonicStage(Transfer-window). If you already have stuff in SonicStage and want to get it out, start playback in the Library window instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ahhh... I see the problem.. I'm using the actual M-Audio drivers for my Revo card, which don't support Wave as a recording source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Try Stereo-Mix instead(Muting everything except Wave, of course). Or if the SP/DIF of the Card is full duplex, connect input and output with an optical cable, play out via digital out and record via digital in. Or just use Total recorder or VAC (Virtual Audio Cable)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 The M-Audio Revo 7.1 has coax digital out only, and mixer sources for recording are simply "mic/line" [both on the same slider]. There is no wave option, there is no stereo mix option. Just "mic/line". But this is what you get what when a pro/semipro company makes a consumer product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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