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UHHOH almost forgot that 3G doesnt matter to apple fanboys, a few of which lurk on atraclife too.

Proprietary OS (built on a decade old design) , proprietary firmware, proprietary carrier and proprietary shit sound quality.No 3G and features that Clie,s had eternities ago and no external software applications. (dont worry apple, SSCP runs on PCs only!!!!) More expensive then a W950i and blackberry put together and shit when compared to them. But people gonna buy it cause their mates got it or it goes with their shoes,jewellery,headband,necklace...whatever!!!

Hi bcass,if you wanna spend on headphones that the HD3 can power and provide good sound i would suggest MDR-V700 or CD580 and if you wanna go for regular bud earphones then i would suggest MDR-E888 as they sound really well balanced and open.no fatigue after 8 hours on a train.they are well built and sound great too. I would suggest the MDR-EX90 but to me they sound a bit hollow on the hd3 but rock on my R909. funny aint it!!!!

Hi DSP if you have tried and compared the EX90 with these I reckon they beat the senns hollow.The EX90 has a much bigger soundstage and presence and good tight bass.Sounds prettty punchy but not as good as the NC022 i suppose or maybe its just the combo of the player and phones in the latter's case cause i have the 706F.

Hi DSP before you go for any of these try MDR-EX85 OR EX90 if your budget allows. They are pretty well balanced and not just bassy or good on highs.

Make me the next CEO of Sony Corp and thats the first thing i am gonna do.

Well DSP if it has 96khz sampling with 24 bit that wpou;d be DVD quality. An HD Digital Amp sounds tasty as is the power hike though in reality even 15 would be ok. now even i have started dreaming!!!!!!

Hi,thats it.go to the initialization menu and perform a hdd format.should set it right.also press the reset button at the bottom to make sure it is done.Do not use SS to initialize the player.

How have you tried to install Sonicstage,by CD or internet.

Hi, to transfer the tracks,go the properties of each if them and see if there is an atrac file already there. If there is an atrac file already in the songs File Info(the rightmost tab) tab then delete that atrac file and you should be able to convert the track to atrac as before and transfer it as usual.Do keep me posted as to how you go.

Well Stuge u sum up what i was trying to say all along. Regarding sound chips well i reckon the best way to do anything is to do it yourself just like Sony does for its players. Wats your opinion and have you checked out virtual mobile engine.Got a few links for you. VME VME link 2

Hi DSP,well as far as i know,sony designs and builds most of its stuff by itself. CRTs,LCD panels,audio hardware,MD and HI-MD and so on were all designed by Sony for its products and made by Sony too. Regarding DAPs checkout Virtual Media Engine on sony DAPs which is one of the reason they sound good and last long.I reckon that the fact that they design and build thier own chips is the reason they sound better than other players irrespective of what some apple fanboys say that they have the same chips and shit and sound similar.They probably forgot that putting together something involves engineering and quality too.Not all DAPs are same. Afetrall the best way to do anything is to do it yourself.(and not buy off the shelf from sigmatel)

Hi DSP,well as far as i know,sony designs and builds most of its stuff by itself. CRTs,LCD panels,audio hardware,MD and HI-MD and so on were all designed by Sony for its products and made by Sony too. Regarding DAPs checkout Virtual Media Engine on sony DAPs which is one of the reason they sound good and last long.I reckon that the fact that they design and build thier own chips is the reason they sound better than other players irrespective of what some apple fanboys say that they have the same chips and shit and sound similar.They probably forgot that putting together something involves engineering and quality too.Not all DAPs are same. Afetrall the best way to do anything is to do it yourself.(and not buy off the shelf from sigmatel)

Hi ender325, no matter what you say,apple fanboys always place the somy lower in sound quality and just for the record minidisc had gapless 15 years ago,took apple 5 years and 5.5 generations to build it. Reckon there is a thing besides audio chips which is known as engineering and quality which some apple fanboys just dont know cause they never saw any in their Ipods.We sony guys have felt it since we first got a Sony. Wat do u reckon about SQ between ipods and walkmans irrespective of chips.My EX90s sound shit on an ipod but smooth and rich on my R909 and i give a fat rats clackers about chips. Wat is your personal opinion and yes do go for the NW-S706F.Disappointment is an emotion you will never experience with it. And yeah put the clearbass to the max,it cleared my head about all nonsense regarding other players..

Hi Jonjo.well there seems to be only one way to save your player and that is to initialize it in the player itself. Once its fresh it shouldnt have any problems and sometimes a single file can corrupt a database or prevent transfer.Remove the offending file and you shall be allright.Anywayz do keep me posted as i have thus device too and could help you out.Cheers

Hi Damage, i dont care if anyone vouches for pata2001 and how can you say that i am lacking in experience in DAPs. He calls me a fanboy but himself behaves like an apple fanboy on the post that i have highlighted about ipods being lossless. see it for yourself and if he has to do this he can do so at ipod sites.reckon you must have heard of the saying that you cant rise by putting others down so why does he trash sony on a sony forum and that also to espouse ipods. There are plenty of sites where his raving about the apparent greatness of the ipods can be done. As for experience well mate my story started in 1993 with a SONY cassette walkman and the affair continues.Do check out my atrac devices to verify and not as a show off from my side.Cheers.I used to do optical recording on the R1 with my denon cdp in the 90s and wonder how many people today even know how to "do" optical. and trust me after sampling creative,iriver,iaudio,ipods,toshiba,samsung and even kenwood DAPs of all sorts i can safely conclude that NONE of them sound the same. try sampling a few of them and if i cant figure out the intricacies of each i wouldnt(or rather dont have the right) to join a tech forum like atraclife to waste my time and sleep. and regarding nitpicking well dont get me started on ipods........

Hi 1) Initialize the player. 2) Install SS allover. Check if there are any leftovers in the docs and settings/application data/sony folders before installing SS. Also reboot the system. Then connect the player after installing SS.It should search for a HDD ATRAC DEVICE.also try installing it manually by searching and installing the device using the Personal Audio driver.Do make sure that the personal audio driver is installed proprerly alongwith sonicstage.

Hey pata2001,if you want i would love to give advice,on SS but trouble is the new version is so good no one wanta advice anymore!!!!! anyways regarding caps well sumtimes u gotta force a point thru. well faults of HI-md always gonna be there and lets not get into that and anyways i joined late therefore couldnt help much but i reckon if i can possess sonicstage 2.0 and use it in the past i surely have a clue as to what its all about.hell i even had downloaded files for CP 4.2 but not much clue as to how to put it together or else i might even have SS CP 4.2 FULL INSTALL!!!!!! only trouble is if you gotta espose ipod values then please do it somewhere else.we know how good?! it is and do check this out and see whos typing this "OMG!! OOMG!! Apple just released a firmware upgrade for 5G iPods, version 1.2. I updated my 5G, ripped a gapless CD with Lame -V 2, transfer it to iTunes, checked the "part of gapless album," synced them to my iPod, and... and... They are played gaplessly on my 5G iPod! Bye-bye Atrac. Bye-bye Sony. I'll still hang around at this board though. smile.gif" -------------------- Sony USA thinks kanji is the source of all evil. Sony USA thinks Divx is the spawn of satan. The caps do look nice pata2001 and if its bye bye sony then why go around nitpicking sony stuff?

Hi Beethovenian, Regarding the interface well thats has always been fairly easy in all sony players and the DRM is the same on all players from sony,ms,apple.I cant really envision any company selling a player with zero DRM. Apple has its fairplay,MS had Playsforsure and now something different for the zune,Sony always had magicgate/OpenMG. When it boils down to DRM all firms are hand in glove and anyways the DSP issue got me searching the net and i found out the virtual mobile engine sony uses in its players.do have a look as it shows some really brilliant stuff there. Sony anyways has to offer copy protection but in its newer players and SS they are a lot relaxed.Atleast you can get music back to your pc.I reckon thats what itunes also does,not too sure though.My NW-S706F plays mp3s natively and offers no restriction on transferring them back to my PC.Its just as in any other ipod.If the next sony hdd player also does that,i reckon thats almost on par with any other player out there combined with usual sony features such as battery life,SQ,bass,better software,looks and build i cant see why it should fail.anyways do keep me postedl

Hey DSP i reckon you just changed your atrac stuff list to include Sony in front of all of them.Way to go!!! Anywayz well i know my local sony guys,Sony Central,Melbourne CBD,Galleria shopping centre well and he told me that a new walkman may be here sooner than expected cause aus got the nw-s series quickly after release,they had them in November itself!! Well mayb its the new CLEARBASS or just sumthing else,but sony finally seems to be getting it together.Mayb i am repeating myself but i was on the train last nite and the nw-s surely got me thinking as to wat sony can do.I mean its so tiny yet packs so much. The only fault with the NWA was the interface and the lag between songs.The sound,battery,shape,size etc were all fine and the display a bit crook but otherwise it had quite a bit going for it, Minidisc is dead and i reckon sony knows that{btw i got myself an RH1 AND 2 nh14wm batteries so its all fine with me} therefore i reckon its going back to its core strengths and lets remeber sony was never cheap.we had a 21" inch crt from sony and it was bloody expensive even then.well mayb sony just wants to eat the cream and let the others have the leftovers,i mean Ipods. Regarding chips for the players well they differ in their design and implementation too.Similar chips can give different results due to differences in IC,build quality, i mean the same engine in a single car can be tuned for more torque at expense of top speed or more top speed but no pulling power. Sony chips are probably made and finalized in Japan and knowing sony they can cram a lot in a little.Anyone got any news rerding the tech used in the NC for NW-S706F or any related stories.

Hey Beethovenian, fully agrre with you but just wanna say that after sampling some new gear from Sony i dont know why but i just feel Sony,s gonna pull a big one.This time there are gonna be no mistakes.SS CP 4.2 feels great,support for so many formats compared to the hd1 which both of us have and probably remember how badly handicapped it was.I mean AAC,WMA,VBR MP3 doesnt all this signify that something smashing might be around the corner.wat do you reckon.

Hey Fanboy,put the clearbass upto max and set those earphones in properly and it will blow your brains off!! Trust me you gonna love this. Hey DSP,if you love megabass,you gonna die for clearbass. MEGA/CLEARBASS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW pata2001 claims to be "Team Apple". Lets have a deal mate, i buy all your atrac stuff and you stop cursing sony and leave this forum to join your "team apple". I reckon only people who love their Walkmans should be here.If you wanna shout the praises of the Ipod then there are plenty of other sites to do so.please join them. Pata2001 from "Team Apple"

Well when i first connected my player it asked for automatic transfer with an option for settings such as atrac or mp3.I didnt even touch the computer or sonicstage.well that takes care of the first issue. Regarding photos you gotta go to each album and then select properties and add the pic.As on macs well thats just 3-4% of the computing population so wonder how much of a difference it makes to PC users. Except for the Vaio none of my other walkmans including flash,minidisc,hdd.My hd3 managed to see some sunshine after 2 weeks and it was still full,just as i had left it.there must have been some leakge which is regular but it still worked fine and lasted a long time.Check yur facts again as its just the VAIO VGF-AP1L which suffers from this problem but even then it lasts 15 hours of regular usage. Mechanical failure is much higher on Apple devices and theres plenty of evidence of that everywhere.People complain about software not hardware from ony.Anyways SS CP4.2 ALMOST FIXES THAT. Regarding the Internet connection,its much easier to update my SS database on a 56k but try downloading 30MB+ ITUNES and you get the drift.Takes me less than a minute on a 56k to restore my library. AND MY HD5 GIVES 25 HOURS ON 132KBPS ATRAC.On 48 i tried once and it was definitely above 30-35 hours. Well even the fastest USB connection takes time to upload songs and i filled 4 gig in 15 minutes.Wonder if ipods take just 1 second and WHOA YOU GOT 8000 SONGS ON YOUR PLAYER!!.ANYWAYS HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO GET SONGS ON YOUR IPOD.1 SECOND OR 2 SECONDS.MAYBE SONY SHOULD CONTACT APPLE TO GET THEIR 1TB A SECOND USB INTERFACE!!!!!!!!! Reagrding Unicode well I speak Hindi and SS DOESNT SUPPORT THAT.DO YOU SEE ME WHINGE ALL OVER THE INTERNET ABOUT THAT JUST LIKE YOUVE BEEN DOING.NO I DONT!!! AND SONY DOESNT HAVE ANY OBLIGATION EITHER AND REGARDING SOFTWARE WELL THATS ALMOST FIXED.I AHVENT HAD A SINGLE PROBLEM WITH SS CP 4.2 AND IT WORKS FLAWLESS WITJ ALL MY STUFF.GAPLESS WITH MP3 WORKS ONLY IF YOU USE CD TO RIP SONGS NOT DIRECT MP3,S AND SS CAN DO THAT .TRY IT. BTW YOU HAVENT REPLIED TO ANY OF MY OTHER POINTS,MAYBE YOUR APPLE IPOD DOESNT MOTIVATE YOU ENUFF OR ITS JUST PLAIN DOESNT MATCH UP 2 SONY.

Sony NW-S706F: 40 Hour battery life, noise cancelling which works, MP3 VBR and CBR,AAC (99% flavours of it),HE-AAC,WMA(Almost all flavours),ATRAC,PCM playback which i reckon is more than the precious ipod and gapless too, never scratches,Chrome Body and Matt Finish, Feels rock solid,not flimsy or cheap and its not MADE IN CHINA just like my other sony players(More profit for Apple I Suppose) Recording in PCM, Is this the harbinger if the next Minidisc. Fit 2 of these in 1 Nano, Listen to it and you gonna be shocked out of your wits Pata2001, makes even 128 kbps mp3s sound great,imagine wat 300+ mp3 or atrac would do. CLEAR BASS IS THE NEXT MEGA BASS.Bring it on SONY I WANT MORE OF IT.(BASS IN AN IPOD=OXYMORON) KILLS ALL IPODS ON SOUND QUALITY AND BATTERY LIFE(Business as usual here I suppose). can also be used as a digital necklace with its myriad visualisation. AND ALL THIS FROM A USER NOT A REVIEWER OR WINDOW SHOPPER. Pata2001 listen to it before you say anymore and BTW the earphones that come with it the NC022 (NOT NC22) ARE WORTH MORE THAN A NEW IPOD SHUFFLE.cheapo apple!!!! and what happens the day ppl get tired of the ipods design.(its already happening),TADA apple wat u gonna do. btw my R909 AND N501 which probably came out before the ipod are still going strong.how long willl your ipod last mate.my year old hd5 regularly gives 25-30 hours playback.A NEW ipod struggles to make it to 20 and we are talking real life not figures by apple or sony. Also have you checked out SS CP 4.2. it runs as quick as Itunes and hasnt crashed on a guinea pig PC with 1 gig processor and 192 ram.Took me 15 minutes to transfer my tunes and get going. Also i had ALL THE ACCESSORIES including software,cables,extension wire and so on.Felt like unpacking a sony player of yesterdays with their million accessories.My NHF800 TOOK ME 15 TIMED MINUTES TO UNPACK AND THIS WAS THE SAME.How much is that feeling worth!!! and does apple supply that too??? The minidisc took 16 years to die but the ipods gonna fade quicker.Rest assured. Sony forever.AND MEGA/CLEAR BASS TOO!!!!!!!!!!