Sonocstage: Terrible Software!

[Alfio]

Hi all,

Is there an alternative software to use for make

dawnload/upload from/to MD-Hi and PC?

The software SonicStage have a lot of problems

with hardware: i try to use it in 3 different

PC with winXP and win98se, and in each PC

I have find a different problem!!!

1. I have 2 partition (necessary for me!).... BAD

2. Not able to read CD audio from CD....

3. Problem connection with MD thru USB port...

4. ecc, ecc,.........

Very Bad Software! The hardware (Hi-MD) it's good,

but the software is Very, Very BAD, and terrible

to install.

I understand the problem of protection of

copyright of music, it's OK, but if I transfer

my music, live recorder thru microphone, to PC,

after it's not possible to make ANYTHING else

at the recording in the MD (es: make a new marker,

or make a new tranfer in the same PC!)

It's a NONSENSE!

Please, if anybody know a different software for

make a transfer of analog source recorded in MD to PC,

answer at this forum or write me!

Thank in advance.

Alfio.

[dex Otaku]

Hi all,

Is there an alternative software to use for make

dawnload/upload from/to MD-Hi and PC?

The software SonicStage have a lot of problems

with hardware: i try to use it in 3 different

PC with winXP and win98se, and in each PC

I have find a different problem!!!

1. I have 2 partition (necessary for me!).... BAD

2. Not able to read CD audio from CD....

3. Problem connection with MD thru USB port...

4. ecc, ecc,.........

Very Bad Software! The hardware (Hi-MD) it's good,

but the software is Very, Very BAD, and terrible

to install.

I understand the problem of protection of

copyright of music, it's OK, but if I transfer

my music, live recorder thru microphone, to PC,

after it's not possible to make ANYTHING else

at the recording in the MD (es: make a new marker,

or make a new tranfer in the same PC!)

It's a NONSENSE!

Please, if anybody know a different software for

make a transfer of analog source recorded in MD to PC,

answer at this forum or write me!

Thank in advance.

Alfio.

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Generally speaking, if you have fairly reliable hardware and a properly-maintained OS, SS will run just fine 99% of the time.

[zerodB]

... which can be said for pretty much every piece of software available on the market.

[dex Otaku]

I realise it was a horrible, not to mention unhelpful, answer, but it had to be said. Those who have the most problems tend to be those who are running copies of Windows that have never been maintained at all, with hardware that is questionable as to its functional state [such as old CD drives with outdated firmware, &c.].

Aside from that, the answers to these questions are spread all over this fora multiple times already.

Time to update the how to upload document to include advice on using HiMD as intermediary media only, not as permanent storage.

[Ishiyoshi]

Generally speaking, if you have fairly reliable hardware and a properly-maintained OS, SS will run just fine 99% of the time.

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Very well said. Generally, as dex Otaku has pointed out, most problems new users encountered with SonicStage is the lack of properly maintained OS coupled with reliable hardware and the lack of patience to search the forum's technical database. One can view the amount of identical threads arise recently dealing with just the same problem.

People... please use the search option. There is immense information regarding most of your technical issues within this forum.

Edited February 3, 2005 by Ishiyoshi

[Alfio]

Generally speaking, if you have fairly reliable hardware and a properly-maintained OS, SS will run just fine 99% of the time.

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I explain better my opinion about SonicStage software:

I work with Computer from 1987: I use a lot of software languages,

scintifics programs, standard programs (office, graphical elaboration, ecc...),

and Music software (like Cubase, Nuendo, and audio/video elaboration),

and every software have some little problem of installation, or settings,

BUT are software with high potentially, they make a "big" work (think about

one programs like Adobe Premiere Pro: Audio and Video editing at

semiprofessional level), and this kind of softwares works well at 98%,

in standard PC settings (harware and Software).

SonicStage have ONLY to tranfer and/or convert Audio from/to one

peripheral thru USB port! It's very, very simply today, there are a lot

of free software and hardware make this very well and simply.

Sony for fear of violation of copyright, blocks an hardware with big

potentiality and probably will "cut the legs" at yours producs.

I repeat: it's NOT SENSE!

NEWS: If you install Nero burning Software complete (with InCD, and

Nero Image Drive, ecc...) SonicStage NOT does work at all!

If you have a CD od DVD writer in your PC, it's normal to use one

software for COMPLETE use of hardware! But SonicStage NOT want!

I have to make one partition with NO other software than SonicStage?

Impossible: SonicStage not working in a PC with double Partition!

And so on....

If any Software works in this way, we should must have ONE PC for any kind

of software (one for office, one for graphical, one for video, ecc...).

This is my opinion. I repeat, I like Minidisk (I have 3 hardware MD),

and I hope that Sony changes its strategy.

Hi, Alfio.

(sorry for my english...)

[kontikichile]

"I explain better my opinion about SonicStage software...

...I hope that Sony changes its strategy.

Hi, Alfio.

(sorry for my english...)"

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Just to say that I have all the licences, all the microsoft patches, a brand new Toshiba Satellite Notebook and guess what....

Sonic Stage still doesn't work!!!

[SlowMo]

hummm, perhaps a pinned "sonic stage ranting thread" or an "i´m pissed off about sony one" would make sense...

in which all the pissed off people could get rid of their frustration, and not filling the whole forum with unnecessary threads

´cos... ...i got to complain too...

my ss works almost perfectly in all its functions, and still saying i don´t like it would be a severe understatement.

comes up in shiny looks, revolving minidisc logos n stuff, in my opinion redundant, and adding system load (no option to turn it out). how ´bout a simple, basic design ,that uses windows standard, would need less resources, and easier to get into, but no, they´ve got to make it special.

seems to me a bit like a trojan horse, looks pretty, but does different things than i want it to.

next: can´t adjust the playback device what´s that ? i can even do that in winamp!

mp3 import is buggy sometimes (-don´t tell me i´ve got badly encoded files, other progs can handle them too, why not ss ? )

and don´t get me started on drm ..

(don´t take all that too serious, just ranting..)

in the end it works, and i probably shouldn´t complain, but i´m simply not satisfied with the prog, there´s more complex software out there for free, with less bugs, and i´ve paid for this one, so "i´ve got a right to sing the blues..." , don´t i ?

[idle_85]

perhaps someone can still move back to the original topic...yes some of u think sonic stage is good,...i think it's crap (*yay, 2day is the 1st time it crashed*) so i am looking for an ALTERNATIVE anything really...all i want is to download music in mp3 format and transfer it to my minidisc. Withouth "failed 2 transfer to device/media" notices...or "failed 2 exchange encription key" (got a new battery fixed that)

(if it is OS maintenance then all the help on this forum is of little use 2 me..since i cannot reboot my computer ...college comp....good connection...but everything is lost after reboot)

Please...someone....... recommend an alternative to SS, and md simple burner...which as far as i know only burns from a cd.

[idle_85]

I think m3u2sb urner is a posible alternative....I found some posts on it on your website...but really it as well as insturctions for it are located here http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/paolose/instructions.htm however it's not for noobs (so i have no idea how to use it) If someone can give me a link to better instructions..even within this forum, I would greatly appreciate it

Thanx

also if this helps someone...I got from http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~jaydee/

"Net MD recording woes

I was getting "recording session has failed" when using Simple Burner and wasn't able to record stuff onto my MZN-505. Tried searching the Web and found that many people seemed to be having the same problem, but the solution was nowhere to be found.

Well, I've found it

Seems to be a problem with XP's USB stuff. If you wander along to microsoft there's a non-essential USB update. Get it and your woes will disappear.

Peace out y'all."

Edited February 9, 2005 by idle_85

[Christopher]

(if it is OS maintenance then all the help on this forum is of little use 2 me..since i cannot reboot my computer ...college comp....good connection...but everything is lost after reboot)

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What in the world are you speaking of? Please explain your configuration a little more..and don't blame Sonicstage. I can tell already that it's something with your computer.

[idle_85]

What in the world are you speaking of? Please explain your configuration a little more..and don't blame Sonicstage. I can tell already that it's something with your computer.

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as i said alrady...if it's the computer there is nothing i can do about it. I asked for an alternative program...but since u r so interested in the capabilities of the soft and hardware of the comp. i'm using then i'll tell u quickly.... it's win.xp.pro 2.79 gh 512 ram....blah blah blah .... the problem is that it has a good security feature. It is located in my university (u know public comp) so all modifications get restored after reboot (i don't have admin. passes). However in the meantime i download 3mb of music in 2 seconds (great internet connection...t1 prob.) and i want to record that onto my minidisc. Now sonic stage prompts me to restart (i can't) however it still functions without reboot after the installation... overall i hate the way sonic stage is set up b/c it will not recognize some music files that are not mp3 or wav I HATE THAT. (but that's not the point...i just think it's a crapy program) by all means... ur opinion is valid...i'm a bad user and the computer is not configured to meet the expectations of a computer guru...but i don't want to deal with that...i'd rather find an ALTERNATIVE.

(that was fun.... 2 tests 2morrow so that got some negative energy out)

if you have an alternative to your beloved sonic stage. Please share.

[dex Otaku]

Alternative: copy the song via analogue using the computer's audio output, a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male stereo cable, and your HiMD recorder. It will take the length the song takes to play plus a few seconds to plug things in.

The issue isn't SS, and the issue isn't that the puter isn't set up for a guru. The issue is that the puter is set up as a network station in an environment where no permanent changes are allowed, i.e. it's simply not set up to work for whatever you want it to - it's set up for what the uni thinks the average student needs at a workstation within the constraints of their network security.

Good luck on your tests.

[Soapm]

I would have to agree that with several storage devices, each with their own software. SS gives you less control and lets you set least personilized settings by default. For instance, where you want your files to go or be named...

Then there is the codec situation. Wave converter should be part of the actual package and not an after thought. Why can't we set it to launch auto when the MD is attached to PC? All my other apps do.

[padillah]

as i said alrady...if it's the computer there is nothing i can do about it.  I asked for an alternative program...but since u r so interested in the capabilities of the soft and hardware of the comp. i'm using then i'll tell u quickly.... it's win.xp.pro 2.79 gh 512 ram....blah blah blah .... the problem is that it has a good security feature.  It is located in my university (u know public comp) so all modifications get restored after reboot (i don't have admin. passes).  However in the meantime i download 3mb of music in 2 seconds (great internet connection...t1 prob.) and i want to record that onto my minidisc.  Now sonic stage prompts me to restart (i can't) however it still functions without reboot after the installation... overall i hate the way sonic stage is set up b/c it will not recognize some music files that are not mp3 or wav  I HATE THAT.  (but that's not the point...i just think it's a crapy program) by all means... ur opinion is valid...i'm a bad user and the computer is not configured to meet the expectations of a computer guru...but i don't want to deal with that...i'd rather find an ALTERNATIVE.  

(that was fun.... 2 tests 2morrow so that got some negative energy out)

if you have an alternative to your beloved sonic stage.  Please share.

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You really want an alternative? Use the HiMD player as a drive and copy the mp3 files onto it. Then you can find a computer you CAN use the way it's needed and off you go.

Tom P.

[zerodB]

You really want an alternative?  Use the HiMD player as a drive and copy the mp3 files onto it.  Then you can find a computer you CAN use the way it's needed and off you go.

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That's hardly a viable solution by any means. I think you'd want to use the HiMD the way it was intended - AS A PORTABLE MUSIC DEVICE!

[atrain]

i thought it was a good smart arse answer for a smart arse questioner myself

[Eryn Vorn]

Generally speaking, if you have fairly reliable hardware and a properly-maintained OS, SS will run just fine 99% of the time.

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dex Otaku, thank you for your frankness.

I ran a Dynabook Satellite 4100X with Windows XP SP1, well maintained, and SS WILL NOT RUN JUST FINE. I had to pick up a specific patch to run omg software on Microsoft website.

(for your info, I couldn't "upgrade" to XP SP2. I tried and I lost my network connections, my internet access and so on).

I'm in the 1% , Sony would say the 0.00000000001% of unlucky users of this wonderfull sofware because I use a bad hardware and a wrong OS.

Eryn Vorn.