fredthesecond Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Hi,I realise I'm using older software but is there an easy reason to explain why my machine will not complete standard format LP2 transfers from MD to computer but will complete Hi-LP transfers, from discs that are nowhere near full or fragmented. The software doesn't prevent me starting the transfer but at 50% transfer it declares an error has occured and that it is unable to complete the transfer. I am trying to transfer line recorded, non copyright, analogue recordings on new, blank discs.Is it just my mistake and SS2.0 will not transfer LP2 format tracks to the computer (even though it tries to do the transfer) and I might need SS3.0 to cure the problem or is it something deeper?My computer is a P4 1.4GHz with Win2k SP4 (all latest updates) and 512k RAM.Also could you just confirm this for me: After the files are across on the computer, I understand I should be able to make multiple copies of the files to different MDs (because they are not copyright protected) and also archive them to CDROMs.It's frightening looking at all the postings about SonicStage problems - how one piece of software providing basic functions can be so unreliable and not do what it's billed to do.Anyway, thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 irrespective of whether this would be the reason for the error... I definitly think it is better to back up that music library and upgrade to SS3.1: more stability (for most users at least) and more optionsbut like I said, it's only my opinion and I have absolutely no clue whether this has anything to do with the error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 I also strongly suggest to update atleast to version 2.3, as the 2.0 has serious issues with uploads.In other words, SS2.0 it totally craptacular.I'm running 3.1 here and it is absolutely stable and the included Codecs are much better and it allows to export your stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 How were those LP2 tracks recorded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredthesecond Posted May 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 The tracks were recorded in analogue format via the Line in connection from a pre-amped microphone source, so there are no copyright issues.Right, Ok, I've just found the prohibitive clause in the SS2.0 help file which effectively prevents me from importing anything recorded in a standard MD format. Not Hi-MD format but Standard MD format. I must say that is pathetic. I mean what is the reason for that? It's Ok in Hi-MD mode but not in LP! One of my main reasons for buying one of these units is to maintain compatibility with the earlier standard MD codec units so I can make one recording of a rehearsal, upload, archive and distribute copies to band members who have LP mode MD players. So I've been recording in LP2 format to make it easy for the software to not have to do any conversion during the transfers. Even the software tries to do the transfer before announcing it can't do it! The software is as confused as I am!So not fully backward compatible then? Not as a standard package anyway. Why should I need to download the latest SS? For all Sony knows I might not have an internet connection.It's all a learning experience isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 you need to download the new version often, it's a poor software becoming better, bit by bit. i update every time there's a new version even though i barely use SS anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Erm, I thought you cannot upload from MD to the Computer if you are using LP2. Only Hi-LP, Hi-SP and PCM are supposed to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 you need to download the new version often, it's a poor software becoming better, bit by bit. i update every time there's a new version even though i barely use SS anymore.←same here, I only use SS to get my own recordings on my PC, but even then I think it's very important to get the latest (tested ) version... that way I have never lost a recording nor encountered any strange crashes or anything at all really and I would like to keep it that way. As we all should realize from time to time... this is all relatively new technology (Hi-MD that is) and even though this shouldn't be an excuse for rubbish software, it DOES explain why it is better to keep up with the (small) improvements in every version of SS... so wheher one likes it or not: one can only gain by updating. For all Sony knows I might not have an internet connection.as for all possible 'no internet connection'-troubles... the mighty fine ppl here @ MDCF (especially Daijoubu) are currently working on a standalone installer for the latest SS (already available in beta version here )So not fully backward compatible then?well, depends on how you look at it... the way you were trying to use it would make sense, if there wouldn't have been some extra features on the Hi-MD machines... For instance, you could record in PCM, upload and without any loss convert to any codec you want... Or for long stretches: record in Hi-SP on a 1gig disc, upload, convert to whatever with relatively little loss... Or you could make use of the wav-conversion option and digitally remaster your own recording AND remove all the DRM-rubble and then convert/burn it to whatever you wan't... I could go on for quite a while, but if you actually aren't convinced that the pros (the possibilities and improvements of Hi-MD over old MD) outweigh the contras (there isn't direct backwards compatibility as you'd like it, but then again, with MD there was almost no option to digitally upload any recording at all), there should be a lot of ppl willing to buy your barely used machine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredthesecond Posted May 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Don't get me wrong, this machine certainly fits with the multiple use (quality recording+distribution/High capacity playback/audio notepad) functionality I was requiring in the first place, even before I bought my recording cassette walkman. My gripe is with one of the main functions of the basic hardware/software combination, which will now take further downloads and/or other software and internet fiddling to solve. This all relies on me having some sort of internet connection of course. And to me (being a newbie to all things MD), it's not obvious the basic setup will not transfer LP2 data to the computer for compilation and further distribution. (In fact I'm not even sure the latest version of SS will support LP2 transfer to the computer - I'll have to check the data on this forum.) Otherwise I believe the machine is good, operates well and is of a decent size. It may be that I have to use a Hi-MD format for my live recordings and archives and convert to LP2 for distribution.Maybe I'm guilty of not pressing sales people for more technical data on the software? It's the element of pot-luck you have to bear that I don't like. I mean even if someone on the sales side said (hopefully correctly) yay or nay to some function of the software say, it might be that the software only intermittently supports that function because of bugs (due to well catalogued reliability problems with SS). But then I suppose that's just going to be more of a factor, the more complex the hardware and software get. Sorry, griping again.Anyway, many thanks also to all those involved in the obtaining of SS3 to perhaps make native LP2 transfer support possible.Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 make native LP2 transfer support possible.←The only uploadable formats are the Hi-MD ones. That seems very unlikely ever to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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