ndj Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I have an original MD component deck and player only walkman. I'd only upgrade to a new HiMD if it was:1) fully backwards compatible2) could upload songs off original MD discs onto a computer hard-drive3) could edit songs and song titles on the computer4) could download songs back to a minidisc in all MD formats including the original SP (for compatibility with my "old" component deck)5) could drag and drop onto MDs from a computer with no laborious software shuffling.6) have I missed anything?Why do I think that's not going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I have an original MD component deck and player only walkman. I'd only upgrade to a new HiMD if it was:1) fully backwards compatible2) could upload songs off original MD discs onto a computer hard-drive3) could edit songs and song titles on the computer4) could download songs back to a minidisc in all MD formats including the original SP (for compatibility with my "old" component deck)5) could drag and drop onto MDs from a computer with no laborious software shuffling.6) have I missed anything?Why do I think that's not going to happen?←1/ they do playback & even record in netmd modes via sonicstage2/ never going to happen.3/ you can do both of these.4/ aside from SP all other modes are supported. false or netmd SP [lp2@132kbs] will playback in your older gear.5/ ipods don't do this. i agree SS could be a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saaron Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 I have an original MD component deck and player only walkman. I'd only upgrade to a new HiMD if it was:6) have I missed anything?Why do I think that's not going to happen?←7. Ability to record/edit LP2 discs WITHOUT Sonic Stage.8. Cross-platform support for Sonic Stage, i.e., replace with a platform-neutral (java) application or port to Mac OS X/Linux -- remember that it is an electronics company and not a front for the Vaio business. After all the original Walkman didn't force people to buy Sony tape recorders to create tapes that played in it, now did it?9. Open the format to enable different software for encoding in different audio or data formats.10. Create a full product-line, including component decks, shelf systems, boom boxes, and car decks. Staying a portable-only format looks like a hedge and doesn't encourage people who are already established MD consumers to upgrade as the format could be abandoned in an instant.I think Sony's fundamental problems stem from their schizophrenic behaviour since acquiring Columbia. They used to be a pure play electronics company and even fought in court to be able to produce machines (betamax) that I doubt they'd even consider building today because of the copyright issue. So, instead of something that could have existed on a level playing field with CD and potentially replaced it by being an open format suitable for both data and audio, we ended up with something that whilst brilliant as a replacement for tape, is still hobbled because of the media arm's desire to protect IP. It's really a pity that Phillips or Sharp didn't invent MD because they would have had no such issues and probably wouldn't have bothered with the pre-recorded media and everyone might be using MD instead of CD-R/W.It's a missed opportunity, but it might not be too late for Sony to open the format and play up the fact that you don't need a computer to use it and it's more durable and can store more data than CD (in HiMD format). Of course, I'm sure Sony Music and Sony Pictures would continue to prevent such a thing from happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Sony has already opened things quite a bit in my opinion. Maybe a blowout before the demise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saaron Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Sony has already opened things quite a bit in my opinion.←Could you be more specific? I've really not been keeping up on HiMD developments since I've seen little change in the hardware output, i.e., until the announcement of a deck from Onkyo, nothing but portable units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breepee2 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 1) Lossless format like Apple, Atrac Lossless or something2) Usable, stable and reliable software like iTunes3) Personal wish: Linux software (if software is still needed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) I actually think the new SonicStage (3.1) is every bit as simple and stable as iTunes. Its way simpler than the old versions and it actually doesn't crash. Edited May 26, 2005 by Matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Three words:AD-VER-TISE!I'm so sick of seeing the Ipod silhouettes everywhere. How many ads for MD or Network Walkmans?Seriously. Sony reminds me of the guy who goes to church and prays so he can win the lottery, but never buys a darn ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny mac Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) 1. Redesign Sonistage from the ground up - produce a fully working and reliable product. Re-name it to get rid of the SS ghosts...2. As Syrius said - advertise the format for it's many advantages over flash, CD and HDD3. ATRAC3+ 128kbps/160kbps codec to surpass LP24. Open ATRACand release the DRM currently imposed5. Support for Macs (and possibly linux)6. Greater capacity discs (if technically feasible)7. Amps with output of 8mW at 32 ohms (or more)8. Get other companies involved so it doesn't look like just Sony flogging a dead horse (appearances count)9. Make the full range of HiMD units and their accessories available in all regions Edited May 26, 2005 by jonny mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 darn Jonny, you clearly have been thinking about this and by the way: I couldn't agree more!greetings, Volta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hironiemus Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 1)All of the above2)Possibility to easily copy MDs (would probably happen if Sony opens the format)3)New prerecorded discs-----Note for the prerecorded discs: They should do something like the SA-CD for MD; Hi-MD recorded in Linear PCM, which can also be played in old SP-Players, since many people still own their equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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