Lemmy Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Hi,Hope these haven't been covered elsewhere.I was wondering if there are navigation facilities on the RH10 comparable to an iPod, zen micro etc. Can one search through albums, artists, etc? If so, is it a fairly intuitive system? Is it slower than a HDD player due to disc scanning?Have i understood correctly that you can only upload your own analogue recordings once? When using the device as a temporary data drive via USB, can you only upload your data files to the PC once? Can you upload the files to another PC?Next up: I notice on Amazon.co.uk, a reviewer complains that audio quality isn't as good as on his MZ-R900. I'm a MZ-R900 owner too, so I welcome comments on this.And finally, any idea if the lcd remote for the MZ-R900 will work with the MZ-RH10.That's enough to be getting on with for now... Thanks for any advice.L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Not familiar with the iPod but here is some info for the RH10You have a search by Artist, album or title.Only one upload, and you cannot edit that upload on your PC.No restrictions when used as a data drive. Just like any other removeable media USB drive.I believe the headphone amps of most modern minidisc players/recorders is somewhat wanting. On some units they are using class D amps that are mainly for longer battery life, not sound quality. They can be more picky about head/earphones.You can use the MZ-R900 remote ( I use the one from my MZ-R909). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Posted May 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Interesting stuff."You can't edit it on your pc" - But you can convert to wav for editing, is that right? Or is that only for uncompressed PCM recordings?Anyone else have thoughts on the headphone amp?Another thought for anyone with technical expertise. If i run a signal from the RH10 headphone socket to my little mixing desk for recording or playback, what am i losing that i would get if the RH10 had a line out?L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 "You can't edit it on your pc" - But you can convert to wav for editing, is that right? Or is that only for uncompressed PCM recordings?you can convert recordings in any type (atrac or PCM) to wav (built in in SS3.x) and then all is possible (editing, reinporting in SS, sharing with other ppl, burning to cd and so on...)Another thought for anyone with technical expertise. If i run a signal from the RH10 headphone socket to my little mixing desk for recording or playback, what am i losing that i would get if the RH10 had a line out?←I don't really think I qualify as a technical expert but I do know that (on my NH900 at least) 'line out' actually is the same as a 'headphone out' but with full volume and with the equalizer turned off... so it is fairly simple to imitate by turning the volume up and the equalizer off if it still isn't loud enough...check whether you have a European (volume capped) version (only sold in Europe though normally )hope to have helped,Volta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxigenicpoem Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I'll agree with Volta, when it comes to the MD, the 'Line Out' isn't a true line out in a sense of an untouched signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I don't know but it is also possible that line out does impedence matching. When in headphone mode it would be configured for low impedence output. Line out is designed for much higher impedence. I do not know what Sony changes in line out, but it is possible to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Interesting stuff."You can't edit it on your pc" - But you can convert to wav for editing, is that right? Or is that only for uncompressed PCM recordings?Anyone else have thoughts on the headphone amp?Another thought for anyone with technical expertise. If i run a signal from the RH10 headphone socket to my little mixing desk for recording or playback, what am i losing that i would get if the RH10 had a line out?L←By "can't edit" I was referring to divide, merge, cut etc. You can convert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 By "can't edit" I was referring to divide, merge, cut etc. You can convert←forgive me if I'm wrong...but I really think (or even better...I know) I have combined recorded tracks I have uploaded using SonicStage 3.1... On what kind of tracks would these features work then? surely not on tracks from commercial CDs or anything, as this would endanger the copyprotection...if you meant: there just aren't real editing features in SonicStage, I agree, but you can combine tracks -> export as one big wav-file -> load in a audio-editing program like (the free) audacity -> export to wav/MP3/... and reimport in SS or do whatever you want, as it's DRM free -> download to MD in the edited versionok, there are quite a few steps here, but it does let you do with your recording whatever you decide, and if you recorded in a high quality (Hi-SP or PCM) in the first place there will be no (or only very little) quality loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Kelly Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 forgive me if I'm wrong...but I really think (or even better...I know) I have combined recorded tracks I have uploaded using SonicStage 3.1... On what kind of tracks would these features work then? surely not on tracks from commercial CDs or anything, as this would endanger the copyprotection...if you meant: there just aren't real editing features in SonicStage, I agree, but you can combine tracks -> export as one big wav-file -> load in a audio-editing program like (the free) audacity -> export to wav/MP3/... and reimport in SS or do whatever you want, as it's DRM free -> download to MD in the edited versionok, there are quite a few steps here, but it does let you do with your recording whatever you decide, and if you recorded in a high quality (Hi-SP or PCM) in the first place there will be no (or only very little) quality loss←Actually, SS 3.1 allows you to divide and combine tracks. I haven't tried it extensively but the simple tests I made did work. They warn you that editing tracks in PCM might take a while.TK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 (edited) Actually, SS 3.1 allows you to divide and combine tracks. I haven't tried it extensively but the simple tests I made did work. They warn you that editing tracks in PCM might take a while.←that is what I meant, so now we have two ppl saying that you CAN perform basic combine/divide-editing (and no more) in SS3.1BTW...the warning about combining PCM is right it takes forever... best way to perform any editing is to convert first and to use a real editing program like the free audacity or adobe's program,... (non-PCM types like Hi-SP, can take a while, but do combine beautifully in SS, so I will continue to combine 'em, convert 'em and then edit them...)greetings Volta Edited May 19, 2005 by The Low Volta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Does SS 3.1 treat uploads differently than previous releases? I have tried to edit uploaded, analog recorded, tracks and always got a warning that I cannot edit uploaded tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Yes, this was actually changed in SS 3.0. Prior to SS 3.0, you actually had to delete the track from the HIMD it came from to edit the track. That's no longer a problem since SS 3.0. That has been a big improvement for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Yes, this was actually changed in SS 3.0. Prior to SS 3.0, you actually had to delete the track from the HIMD it came from to edit the track. That's no longer a problem since SS 3.0. That has been a big improvement for me.←thanks mrsoul for clearing that up...I had not ever tried to upload edited tracks again before I upgraded to SS3.1, so I totally missed any knowledge of that previous limitation ...but a day in which I learn something is a day well spent!(and our problem is resolved...so everyone is happy ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodgnome Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Only one upload, and you cannot edit that upload on your PC.When you upload a recording to the PC - if it was:-analogue (line in / mic) - you may convert it to WAV (which is editable)optical (digital line in) - you may NOT convert it to WAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcca6392 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 As far as 'searching' on the RH10 goes, too, try your jog wheel. When playing songs on the disc, go ahead and move it up and down - your screen will change to a list of all playable tracks on the disc, and you can scroll down and push to the one you want. Doesn't seem much slower than most MP3 players.I'm not certain if this is only for within groups or not - as I usually don't group my tracks. But I'll test that tonight, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Only one upload, and you cannot edit that upload on your PC.When you upload a recording to the PC - if it was:-analogue (line in / mic) - you may convert it to WAV (which is editable)optical (digital line in) - you may NOT convert it to WAV←That needs a clarification...If you use Marcnet's HiMDRenderer program, then no worries about optical source or digital source. You can convert to WAV and edit forever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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