g_montel Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Hi!I'm going to get a RH 10 because this is the only unit I know which is capable of playing MP3s and recording into WAV format !I will use it for outdoor recordings with an Audio Technica AT 822.I'd like to know if the noisefloor of the preamps are better than my old Aiwa AMF70.Could someone post a frequency view of the preamp at hi gain, and recording volume pushed to max, in a Cool Edit like view like this : http://home.cogeco.ca/~ericcole/Untitled-1.jpg ??I would be delighted!Thanks folksBest regards geoffroy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I'm going to get a RH 10 because this is the only unit I know which is capable of playing MP3s and recording into WAV format !←RH910 can do this also (this is the 2nd gen 'one level cheaper' model than the RH10) and perhaps even on the RH710 (don't really know whether it has mic in though)as for MP3 playback: check this thread as Sony allows MP3 playback alright, but they won't let it sound as good as atrac Greetings, VoltaPS: if you forget about MP3-playback, the NH700, NH800, NH900 and NH1 will record in PCM (=wav) too...and they have their own strenghts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_montel Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 RH910 can do this also (this is the 2nd gen 'one level cheaper' model than the RH10) and perhaps even on the RH710 (don't really know whether it has mic in though)as for MP3 playback: check this thread as Sony allows MP3 playback alright, but they won't let it sound as good as atrac Greetings, VoltaPS: if you forget about MP3-playback, the NH700, NH800, NH900 and NH1 will record in PCM (=wav) too...and they have their own strenghts←Thanks!I'm considering the NH900 as well.How is MP3 playback on this unit ? I know it does'nt support natively MP3, but how much time does it take to convert a MP3 file to Atrac with SonicStage, comparing to putting a MP3 without conversion on the RH10 ?Considering the RH10 "bug" on mp3 playback, which one does sound better ?Thanks!geoffroy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 How is MP3 playback on this unit ? I know it does'nt support natively MP3, but how much time does it take to convert a MP3 file to Atrac with SonicStage, comparing to putting a MP3 without conversion on the RH10 ?Considering the RH10 "bug" on mp3 playback, which one does sound better ?←hm, I don't have 1 MP3 on my PC (or in my entire music collection), I'm one of those freaks that uses CD's and Hi-MD only and if I find myself obliged to compress to save space, I'll use Flac (lossless compression, so no info is lost at all)...My entire music library (sounds library is better) on PC consists of just my own recordings (mostly interviews) all the rest I have on CD and I use Simple Burner to get them on Hi-MD without cluttering my PCBesides, I have never had the opportunity to listen to an RH10 (or any 2nd gen Hi-MD) so I can't compare... others have said that a converted MP3 sounds better on the RH10 than the original MP3 due to the MP3-playback problems, but I can't say whether that is true or not...perhaps someone who has had the opportunity to test all this can help you out here?sorry to be of no real help here...greetings, VoltaPS: on the subject of preamps: all Hi-MD preamps are considered to be a bit noisy, so if you plan to record very quiet sounds, it is a good idea to check out some good external preamps and use the line in on the Hi-MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 BTW - measuring the noisefloor is pretty useless without also measuring exactly how much gain the preamp is exercising, as well as its ceiling [headroom]. The noisefloor alone doesn't actually give you any useful information at all. [Well, it does give you the spectra, but without having a reference of some kind and knowing the actual gain, the spectra don't actually tell you anything useful.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 perhaps even on the RH710 (don't really know whether it has mic in though)The RH710 doesn't have mic in, so you need an extern pre-amp for that unit. But I don't think you can get a decent pre-amp for the price difference between the RH710 and the 910. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_k_d Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hmm.. I'd be willing to do try the noise floor analysis in cool edit, butI'm not sure if you can make it think it has a mic connectedunless, there is a mic connected. I haven't tried pulling it out whilerecording.. hmm..That said, I'd be hard pressed to see any real issues with the RH-10.Records well, sounds great. The mp3 playback issue, can be mademost livable with an eq tweak. I have many gb of mp3's and the thought of conversion to anything.. atrac included is just crazy. The time is realtime or slower near as I cantell. Okay - it may not be but I was in a hurry and wanted the stinking fileon the player and the converson took what seemed like forever.The SonicStage app (as you well know ) is just wierd. And ugly. And completly non-intuituve. There should be a dope-slap penalty in place for guys who comeup with new and bad gui's. The direct transfer of mp3's doesnt take very long, and you get all your id2/3 stuff.I've said this before, and so have others.. but it bears repeating.. the remote is worth it.First time you put the md player in a pocket/case and want to switch songs or pauseYou'll be glad you have the remote. '--Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) The SonicStage app (as you well know ) is just wierd. And ugly. And completly non-intuituve. There should be a dope-slap penalty in place for guys who comeup with new and bad gui's. Point of interest:I use SS now -only- as a library for uploaded tracks; I use it to upload tracks, title them, combine them, and export them.In this regard v3.x actually works very well, though attempting to use it as a complete music library is next to useless, I've found.Revision:I've started using SS as a music library in a limited way once again. This is mainly due to the mp3 compatibility of the RH10; it is flawed, but it's good enough for portable listening when I go for walks, and it gives me fast access to the very large existing library of MP3s I have from my own CD collection [still existing because I had an MP3-CD player before]. For the record, anything that isn't already encoded I use HiSP for [usually through Simple Burner]. Edited June 27, 2005 by dex Otaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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