mrsoul Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Here's a link to the 8-20-05 Bruce Hornsby show I recorded this weekend in Asheville, NC on the lawn of the Biltmore Estate. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=17498Hey, Low Volta, I got a kick out of your stealth setup. I thought we only had a police state against music here in the US For this show, I just walked to the "pat down" table and throw my Otterbox, mic stand and portable table bag on the table and said "there you go". They looked at it and said "do you have any cameras in there?" I said, "Nope, just recording equipment". They said "have fun, enjoy the show!". It's great to have an artist like Bruce who supports the tapers plus puts on such an incredible show that is so worthy of recording. Well, not knocking the stealth scene in the least, just wanted to share the difference in my experience with taping this weekend's show. Trust me, going into Bob Dylan back in June had me a little nervous... Okay, enjoy!M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I'll be definitley checking out your recording... I guess you're one of the most experienced recordists here on MDCF, so I'm interested to hear what you produceHey, Low Volta, I got a kick out of your stealth setup. I thought we only had a police state against music here in the US haha, thanks... but as I said, it was way over the top for the festival I went to, but it was a good test for recording in some stricter venues I plan to visit...besides, I can't really think of a more comfortable setup actually, HiMD in a pouch and mics on glasses... if I understand your setup correctly you actually record with a mic stand sticking up from your back? I would love some pics of your setup as well (you could always hide yer face if you do not want to be recognized as a taper ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Iif I understand your setup correctly you actually record with a mic stand sticking up from your back? I would love some pics of your setup as well (you could always hide yer face if you do not want to be recognized as a taper )←LV-Not sure where you got that idea about the mic stand sticking up from my back but I use a modified lighting stand (weighs about 15-20 lbs) with a T-bar and some AT adjustable mounts for the AT853s and I just got some new windscreens for the AT853 that work great even with the holders. Here's a snapshot of my T-bar and mic mounts... The stand is nothing fancy, just heavy and tall (it will reach about 9 feet) but it only cost me $25 at a local music store and we modified the top with a drop in tube that allows the T bar to mount. I will try to take a picture of the setup later if I get the chance.[attachmentid=735] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 That is mint - please snap a picture of this in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZ-1 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 You should have seen the setups at a "Page/Plant" concert when they had the "taper's section" -- huge poles with multiple mikes proably a good 15-20ft (6m) in the air. Incredible.Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamer Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 That's one big difference at shows between US and Europe. From what i understood, there are venues/bands in the US were you can openly set up mic stand, recording equipment ...I've never seen anything similar in Europe, at best you can have a lax security at the entrance , but nothing similar to fully open section for tapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 As a veteran of 39 Grateful Dead shows, (the inventors of the "taper's section"- Dan Healy's idea back in the mid 80's) the taper's section has been a part of the landscape for many concerts for me. In fact, most of the "jam bands" of the Bonaroo fame continue what the Dead and the Allman Brothers Band started for live recording by fans in the 80's and early 90's. At this particular Bruce Hornsby show (keyboardist for the Dead from 90 to 92) there were about 7 tapers all together at the soundboard. There were a few folks with stealth mics up close but nothing "flying" in front of the soundboard/mix table which is the usual policy of most taper friendly artists out of consideration of other fans' views. I personally prefer the mic stand cause I can move around and there is much less chatter from the audience picked up. But, then again, drunks are naturally attracted to mic stands and feel obligated to yell a few "Freebirds" here and there! Plus, some folks think mic stands were brought to concerts so they can hold on to them for a quick photo pose before they pass out It can be a lot of gear to carry in and out but the final product usually turns out great. BTW, at least 5 folks came up during the show just to ask "what are you recording with?" when looking at my RH10 with that beautiful OLED . I think it made some good impressions on several folks and I got to give a few quick classes on the benefits of HiMD and USB uploading. That's always a plus factor too!Here's another funny story: last year at the same venue with the same artist, I had a rent-a-cop come up to me with my mic stand 9 feet in the air and ask me "what do you think you are doing? Making a bootleg?" I replied, "nothing illegal here, I never sell anything I record anyways." Well, he had to waste about 10 minutes on the radio before he finally got the confirmation that Bruce allows taping. Some folks just don't get it...Long story short, I am very thankful to artists like Bruce and Derek Trucks who continue to allow us the freedom to preserve and share their music for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBringer Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hello mrsoul, I would like to hear your recording. Please tell me how to deal with a torrent file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breepee2 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 http://www.bittorrent.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 as roamer said, here in EUrope a tapers section is only a dream so I've actually never seen a mic stand in action so sorry for my stupid idea it looks hugely professional! ... and I only used sunglasses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBringer Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 http://www.bittorrent.com/← thanks Breepee2, downloaded it ok, but my virus checker then goes and deletes it. Tried three times now, and it gets zapped every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 as roamer said, here in EUrope a tapers section is only a dream so I've actually never seen a mic stand in action so sorry for my stupid idea it looks hugely professional! ... and I only used sunglasses ←LV-I didn't find it stupid, just funny. Hope I didn't offend and I hope my comments helped you understand my point of reference regarding open taping. It's the norm for me as opposed to others who may be used to stealth taping as the norm. Thanks again for the laugh and the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hope I didn't offendnot at all, I was laughing very hard myself trying to picture it... someone standing in the crowd with a giant 'antenna' sticking out of a backpack... and I would love to visit a venue with an open tapers section... but it looks like a legal spot near the mixer @ my next QOTSA show will be the closest you can come by here in Europe...although I must say, part of the fun is not being spotted by anyone and capturing that one show noone else has got... and if I could tape openly, I'd have to invest in more material so I'll stay stealthy for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breepee2 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 thanks Breepee2, downloaded it ok, but my virus checker then goes and deletes it. Tried three times now, and it gets zapped every time. ←That is strange, it's the official Bittorrent client, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.Try http://www.bitcomet.com/ . It's a 3rd party torrent-client. It's more versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBringer Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Thank you Breepee2, That's better, got the torrent-client ok. I'm downloading the music file now. Altho it's gonna take 3hrs on my 1 meg broadband. Also Kerio, my firewall, is going crazy with loads of "Someones" wanting to connect to me. That bit scares me I keep saying Deny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Thank you Breepee2, That's better, got the torrent-client ok. I'm downloading the music file now. Altho it's gonna take 3hrs on my 1 meg broadband. Also Kerio, my firewall, is going crazy with loads of "Someones" wanting to connect to me. That bit scares me I keep saying Deny ←Actually that is the Bit Torrent mehtod. You share bits of the download with others. It safe and you only share what you have from that Bit Torrent folder. The less you share, the slower your download will be in proportion. Open it for connections from others and see if you get any change in d/l speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicBringer Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) Thank you mrsoul, I have just edited 'em. They now say: Permit. I'm new to this bit torrent lark - any more tips please.[late edit] hooray done it..!! So how do I get more music using this torrent thingy. Which sites do you recommend, and which ones to avoid. I like guitars, classic rock, blues guitars. (Wow this Comfortably Numb is good) Edited August 23, 2005 by MusicBringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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