Quicksilver_mx Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) it is the definitive end of the Minidisc technology?, watch the new product that I have found of Sony... decidedly Sony goes by another way and one has forgotten Minidisc, perhaps in very brief time it is completely forgotten the MZ-RH1 and there are but no products with this support... that think?http://www.sony.net/Fun/design/activity/pr.../pcm-d1_01.html Edited March 20, 2007 by Quicksilver_mx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) The PCM-D1 is designed for professional recordists and is in a price range totally different from that of the MiniDisc ($1800 versus $300). A really nice thing for recording though. But I am not sure whether it will not record the noise from its analog meters. Edited March 20, 2007 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 The PCM-D1 is designed for professional recordists and is in a price range totally different from that of the MiniDisc ($1800 versus $300). A really nice thing for recording though. But I am not sure whether it will not record the noise from its analog meters.as long as you dont peg the meters they dont make any noise, I have a CD from a group here in Japan that was done completely with that unit , the piano sound is amazing, your in the room with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky191 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 it is the definitive end of the Minidisc technology?, watch the new product that I have found of Sony... decidedly Sony goes by another way and one has forgotten Minidisc, perhaps in very brief time it is completely forgotten the MZ-RH1 and there are but no products with this support... that think?http://www.sony.net/Fun/design/activity/pr.../pcm-d1_01.htmlNo because its a different price point and people still like to use MD/HiMD as players and also the swapable disks etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 * Moved to appropriate sub-section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 No because its a different price point and people still like to use MD/HiMD as players and also the swapable disks etc. But if you read the whole three pages , and the Product page , it is easy to see why it costs so much, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky191 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 But if you read the whole three pages , and the Product page , it is easy to see why it costs so much,I'll have 3 so!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medhayo Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 But if you read the whole three pages , and the Product page , it is easy to see why it costs so much,If you read the whole three pages, you will see that the design of this device was all about superficial cosmetics, not about technology. It is all about flashy looks, marketing and hype. MD is technologically obsolete already - technologically it makes no sense whatsoever to store the data on minidisk when you can buy a 2GB SD card for 15 Euros and plug it directly into the computer. The only reason I recently (about a year ago) bought a HiMD (although the older MDs I've been using for some years) is that the MP3 recorders are nothing but crap. If you put the electronics of a minidisk recorder into an MP3 recorder with a 2GB SD card you'll get a better product that is cheaper to manufacture and is completely silent (unlike the MD), and which uses far less power. That is why I say the MD is technologically obsolete. But unfortunately the manufacturers are interested in nothing other than to exploit and manipulate the desire of consumers, to make as much money as possible. Hence the infatuation with the cosmetics of these "Creative Designers" instead of concentrating on good oldfashioned questions of engineering. So why are all the MP3 machines crap? Of course to compress MP3 at good quality in realtime requires processing power, and therefore pocket consumer MP3 devices have to make compromises. (Playback is OK, but that is useless for a recording device). However the existence of the MD proves that that is not the reason - because the MD recorders can record excelent sound. The real reason comes back to marketing, and protectionism. I believe the MP3 recorders are deliberately crippled in quality to protect the recorded music market (especialy from Sony), because Sony don't want people using a cheap mass-produced MP3 recorder to record live concerts and sharing large numbers of high quality recordings on the internet. (If Sony was not involved directly in the music industry we would probably have high quality ATRAC devices like MP3 recorders today). From the technology perspective they could make an ATRAC recorder with an SD card slot with a performance better than the best available HiMD which could probably be mass produced and sold for under 15 Euros - but that of course is not what the manufacturers want! Too many conflicting business interests. I am sure there are certain factions within Sony who would have liked to withdraw the MD completely a few years ago - from a marketing perspective they have already done so!!! - it is hard to find the disks, and minidisks are completely lost from the public eye due to lack of marketing and the strong emphasis on MP3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 There's no bitterness there , Now Now ,, There There its alll better now. wanna Cookie!? :lol2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky191 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) ...I believe the MP3 recorders are deliberately crippled in quality to protect the recorded music market ...While that is certainly part of the reason. I suspect a lot of it is that the majority of the market isn't interested in recording. Just like some people never got into home taping. They simply don't want the hassle. So why include it. Edited April 3, 2007 by Sparky191 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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