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Christmas Story for people having a bad day:

When four of Santa's elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the Pre-Christmas pressure.

Then Mrs Claus told Santa her Mother was coming to visit, which stressed Santa even more.

When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were about to give birth and two others had jumped the fence and were out, Heaven knows where.

Then when he began to load the sleigh, one of the floorboards cracked, the toy bag fell to the ground and all the toys were scattered.

Frustrated, Santa went in the house for a cup of apple cider and a shot of rum. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered the elves had drank all the cider and hidden the liquor. In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the cider jug, and it broke into hundreds of little glass pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found the mice had eaten all the straw off the end of the broom.

Just then the doorbell rang, and irritated Santa marched to the door, yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big Christmas tree.

The angel said very cheerfully, 'Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn't this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Where would you like me to stick it?'

And so began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree.

( Footnote : I dont celebrate Christmas , it is actually a Pagan Holiday , The Feast of Saturnalius , Jesus was born 6 months after John the Babtist , who was born in the early springtime(Luke 1:24-33 Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when the Angel appeared to Mary , which means Mary was then 3 months pregnant when John was born , and John was born in the early Spring ) Later As chapter 2 Begins , A decree went forth for all the inhabitants to be registered ( They had to travel from Far distances on Foot and by pack animals ) if they had to make this journey in the dead of winter Augustus would have had a National Revolt on his hands and there would have been war ................

Also please note the Shepherds were "Out in the Fields with the sheep " At NIGHT .......... Luke 2:8 )

Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus at all

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I'm neither Christian nor Pagan, but am happy to celebrate Christmas (as are the Japanese). Merry Christmas to all the Christians, Pagans, and anyone else who cares to celebrate.

'Jesus was born in June', astronomers claim

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Actually Jesus would have been born in August/ October , as secular records and Biblical accounts would show , I am a Biblical Scholar and have been studying the Bible very ,very deeply for over 20 years . The Registration is an historically documented event , that took place at a very certain Time , it was at THAT time that Jesus was Born as is noted by the Biblical account .

There are a great many misconceptions , between man and the Bible . Man has a Tendency to accept only what he agrees with , and what he doesn't agree with he deems as unneeded , when in fact it may be the most needed thing .

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Just then the doorbell rang, and irritated Santa marched to the door, yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big Christmas tree.

The angel said very cheerfully, 'Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn't this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Where would you like me to stick it?'

And so began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree.

:D

What I would love to know is:

1) who made edits to books like the Bible through the ages

2) which lies and/or embellishments were introduced and the times they were introduced

3) just how many of Jesus' so-called miracles actually took place

I have a friend into religious stuff and he apparently says there's proof most of it is garbage, in order to lure the masses into certain religions / faiths, which I can definitely see happening (in fact it would be very unusual for those in power to not do some editing of sacred texts to benefit themselves and their church, IMO, given the natural tendencies of those in powerful positions...).

Anyway, interesting post and funny lil' story.

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:D

What I would love to know is:

1) who made edits to books like the Bible through the ages

2) which lies and/or embellishments were introduced and the times they were introduced

3) just how many of Jesus' so-called miracles actually took place

I have a friend into religious stuff and he apparently says there's proof most of it is garbage, in order to lure the masses into certain religions / faiths, which I can definitely see happening (in fact it would be very unusual for those in power to not do some editing of sacred texts to benefit themselves and their church, IMO, given the natural tendencies of those in powerful positions...).

Anyway, interesting post and funny lil' story.

There were several Historians , who were alive when the first disciples were still alive , and made every effort to determine the facts /fictions of things that had been promulgated .

Josephus is one of those historians , was under direct Roman hire , but out of his own curiosity investigated and interviewed /sought out as many of the First hand accounts as were still alive ( He refused second hand information ) ......... the result was he became a Christian . That word has a Much different meaning now than it did then .

The Bible itself is basically accurate , The interpretations of it that come from the Platform of men is inaccurate .

But have this confo with me by Email . and it wont be a bother to the MdCF who's membership I value .

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There were several Historians , who were alive when the first disciples were still alive ...

No no no, I'm talking about changes that occured in the Bible's content after the disciples were dead, right up to the present time. I don't mean to offend or insult anyone here or elsewhere (religion can be a touchy subject), but if you have some basic info (or links for more reading) feel free to PM me if you are comfortable with that.

I am not very religious but I do see value in many of the stories in the Bible but nevertheless I really am intersted in the real stories of the world, most notably the silent ones very few hear about ie. the silent edits of the scribes :)

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No no no, I'm talking about changes that occured in the Bible's content after the disciples were dead, right up to the present time. I don't mean to offend or insult anyone here or elsewhere (religion can be a touchy subject), but if you have some basic info (or links for more reading) feel free to PM me if you are comfortable with that.

I am not very religious but I do see value in many of the stories in the Bible but nevertheless I really am intersted in the real stories of the world, most notably the silent ones very few hear about ie. the silent edits of the scribes :)

Well , as you say " After the disciples were dead "

in 1611 or so the King James version was produced , but it had been done so under the Command of James , who was looking for a way to control the populace .

If you look in the Intro of the KJ it says , " To our most High and Mighty Prince ... James " pretty lofty title for a man

But when Examining the KJ in relation to original texts , there are ..... (Ouch ) almost 20,000 translation errors in the KJ version

and some of those errors have a direct effect on the meaning of things .

so this is a Very long discussion , in the making ..... again I would ask , via email , or messenger , Skype whatever , PM me , and we can have that discussion.

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