hendy1913 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi everyone Just found this forum and it seems great. ive just discovered I might need a driver for my mz to run on windows 7(just got new lap top) or at least I think I do. Just downloaded a net md driver from the sony site but still had no luck running my mz from my lap top. Has anyone else had any successes with this issue that they could let me in on? needless to say sony customer care drew a blank as windows 7 and its a bit to new for them. I use both the hi md function and net md and my system is 64 bit windows home 7. Sonic stage 4.3 is installed and working correctly. Please Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 You cannot run NetMD with Windows7 64bit directly, there are (and will never be) no drivers for it. However "XP compatibility mode" should solve your problem though I haven't done that myself since I don't have Win64 capable CPU/motherboard. Not sure how you install those USB drivers in XP compatibilituy mode, but I believe someone here did it. Vista-64, fuhgeddaboudid. At least with your setup you have a chance. You may have to start by downloading the XP compatibility mode (actually it's a full copy of XP to host under the new OS) assuming that's included in the price of W7-Home. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Thanks for such a quick reply. I've got some homework now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 discovered that my win7 is home premium so doesnt have the xp back up . however my mz rh1 did work on windows vista so decided to set up some space on hard drive to set up multi op system. Just working out how to do that now. However, my Vista automatically installs into some temp files and an error message comes up that there isnt enough space, I know that there is plenty of space in the hard disk partition I have set up but I am not able to direct the files to the correct location on my hard drive. Please can anyone help? I think i might have got out of my depth on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 As long as Vista is 32-bit Vista, you are ok. I'm afraid I don't grok :installs into some temp files and an error message comes up: This may beyond the capability of folks here to help as it sounds like a computer support problem. Setting up multi-boot is a kind of nightmare which I would not attempt unless you know what you're doing. If you are going to do multi-boot better to throw away Vista and multi-boot XP and Win7, IMHO. You are right, Windows Home will not support the XP virtual mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thanks for your sage advice. I think I'll ditch my last idea (ive got in at the deep end) and try and upgrade win7 to a premium or some such other package that supports virtual xp. I suppose in the meantime if anyone else has issues with their mz rh1 I'd be pleased to hear from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hi Just to update i have managed now to get my mz hitched to win7 using sonic stage and in hi md mode. It took several attempts over a number of days... I dont know why this should be so perhaps someone has some suggestions? So I am quite happy now. Hopefully there wont be any further issues. I would have been really sad not to be able to use it, its my mini recording studio and backing band all in one. Thanks again for your help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer_tom1 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Net md mode wont work under win 7 x64 as there are no x64 net md drivers hi-md will work under win 7 x64. What you can do which will save u upgrading to win7 professional or ultimate (to use virtual xp mode) is to download vmware and install xp as a virtual machine. This way u wont have to dual boot ur machine u can run the virtual xp in windows 7 so its pretty much the same as win7 xp mode but it can be obtained for free if u use the trial period. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefarad Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yes, it's ok. I only use HIMD machines (mz-rh1, mz-rh910, mz-nh700 and 900). In this moment, I'm running Win7 x64 with Sonicstage 4.3 directly, and it's working. I'm using vmware player for Win7 X64 with XP Professional virtual machine too. And when I plug my HIMD minidiscs, they are recognize by XP virtual machines automatically. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Hi thanks for the ongoing interest in my post and everyone's suggestions. Looking further down the virtual pc path I have discovered that my laptop doesnt support virtual pc (some crucial software is unavailable) for the record it is a compaq presario cq61 and I will be following thier forums with interest to see if anything becomes available to enable this facility. Until then I have to just use Himd for now or consider the dual boot option using a 32 bit os system to use the netmd option. there really is no great hardship in just using hi md, the annoying part is that I had a acquired a sizeable batch of 2nd hand md's and had hoped to put them to use, now I have had to order hi md discs as well. Also I had produced a number of important backing tracks in net md mode and cant now manage them on my pc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 the annoying part is that I had a acquired a sizeable batch of 2nd hand md's and had hoped to put them to use, now I have had to order hi md discs as well. Not so... you can *up*format the older disks to a bigger capacity and use them as HiMD quite nicely. No need to use the 1GB disks unless you have actual need for their (much) higher capacity. Also I had produced a number of important backing tracks in net md mode and cant now manage them on my pc! Yes that's a pain. But NetMD doesn't really let you manage very much at all. If they are in the PC you can convert them to HiMD format (assuming the conversion doesn't wreck the sound) using Sonic Stage. If they are on old-fashioned MD's then you need to get them off, suggest a deck with optical out as the cheapest way and the RH1 as the most convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrik Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi thanks for the ongoing interest in my post and everyone's suggestions. Looking further down the virtual pc path I have discovered that my laptop doesnt support virtual pc (some crucial software is unavailable) for the record it is a compaq presario cq61 and I will be following thier forums with interest to see if anything becomes available to enable this facility. Until then I have to just use Himd for now or consider the dual boot option using a 32 bit os system to use the netmd option. there really is no great hardship in just using hi md, the annoying part is that I had a acquired a sizeable batch of 2nd hand md's and had hoped to put them to use, now I have had to order hi md discs as well. Also I had produced a number of important backing tracks in net md mode and cant now manage them on my pc! Try Virtualbox from SUN -which I find to be excellent. I run Vista (32 bit) and Linux in it under Windows 7 (64bit). I will try Virtualbox with SonicStage soon, so can report back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Thanks again for the great advice i've been getting on this thread. I have been able to format my mds to hi md which is great - it was so easy dont know why I hadnt work it out before! The virtual pc issue i,m still working on and I will follow up your suggestions for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrik Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I installed SS under Windows 7 64bit, and it works fine with the NH1, as long as HiMD mode is used. I had to manually install a device driver, and re-boot, after SS was installed. I tried installing SS under Vista 32bit on Virtualbox, but the Vista pre-license period had lapsed and I'm not paying for another Vista. Instead I installed SS on my Vista laptop, and managed to transfer an album to standard MD after configuring the NH1 to look like a non-HiMD device. However this was very slow (maybe 2-3X real time), so I won't be doing that again. It is extremely poor service from Sony not to bother releasing 64 bit drivers for NetMD operation. 64 bit operating systems have been around for a long time now. They should not have dropped support for MD devices from their newer software either. It just shows they have a hard time handling the complexities of software development, and that penny pinching management rules over common sense at Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 An update- i have recovered my net md backing tracks and have backed them up in hi md mode, sonic stage managed this very well without loss of sound quality so i am very happy about this I used my old laptop( which is still in use - just) but now have the hi md tracks on my new laptop and I shall continue to use hi md in future. All my old mds can now be utilized in hi md mode so I am delighted. thanks again for all your support on this site. As for running a virtual pc on my new compaq presario laptop, thats something I will attend to when I can spare the time. as my issues with my md are sorted now as long as i run in hi md mode in future. Just for the record have run my backing tracks through a new pa system using my mz rh1 and the sound quality is excellent and I am reassured that i bought my mz for the right reasons!! It is an essential piece of kit for me, being a backing band and recording studio in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Be careful: Hi-MD-formatted discs are not playable by any professional/studio/venue equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyNT Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 How do you guys install SS under Windows 7 64bit? I always get a fail at OpenMG Secure Module (Error 1628)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Try the "Ultimate" 4.3 version - it has an updated OpenMG engine (5.0). But still it won't work for NetMD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyNT Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Try the "Ultimate" 4.3 version - it has an updated OpenMG engine (5.0). But still it won't work for NetMD. Yeah, I've tried that, same issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathantw666 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yeah, I've tried that, same issue... Are you using Windows 7 Professional? I had concerns about installing SS onto Windows 7 64-bit, but everything seemed to work perfectly. Starting with Windows 7 Professional you get XP compatibility, so Professional and Ultimate will give you that. Not sure if SS works with the versions below Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Hi all Long time since I've visited but still very much in the Minidisc camp. I'm running W7 X-64 enterprise Sonic Stage works -- no prob However my advice is to use Windows XP in a Virtual Machine -- works absolutely fine, including Simple Burner Now what I do these days is 1) Have all my Music ripped to FLAC (Winamp) 2) Compile an Audio CD with the NERO mega plugin of tracs I want to transfer to MD and use a "Virtual CD" device to burn my compilation -- works fine on the "Virtual XP machine" 3) Use Simple Burner to burn to MD. I think if you need Net ND drivers however you will need to run them in W7 X-86 in XP Compatability mode It's easier to use an XP virtual machine -- VBOX or VMWARE player (V3 -- you can now CREATE VM's with this) are both FREE. Cheers -K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) It's even better to use 32-bit Windows 2000 Professional SP4 on a Virtual Machine. It requires less resources and gives you no activation trouble. The list of system pre-requisites from Microsoft, for those who want to install SonicStage 4.3 "Ultimate" on Windows 2000 SP4 (some pre-requisites may already be installed, or can't be installed at all, but are still included for the sake of completion): Windows Installer 2.0 DirectX 9.0c Windows Media Format 9 Windows Media Format 9.5 Data Access Components 2.5 Edited December 25, 2009 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendy1913 Posted December 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Dear All Many thanks again for the on-going interest in this thread. Lots of issues discussed i.e.virtual machines and xp comp mode etc Some great advice here and I'll keep posted of any developments trying to get my xp mode - minidisc up and running. ( haven't got the energy to deal with this just yet as am dealing with sons brand new ps3 slim 250g freezing in little big planet - when will these tech issues end???) Installing win7 pro with ss i had a few problems at first but just kept trying and after a few go's it did actually work i think in the end i plugged in my minidisc from boot up of windows. it now works perfectly in hi md As for using mz rh1 with pro audio devices, thanks again for advice given - i agree hi md isnt exactly music industry standard - however it is beautifully functional as an independent unit run through rca in connectors to any audio set up. it sounds beautiful through my rather modest 150w pa system, in actual fact it sounds better than my home hi fi system. i have just found out that there is a tascam 8 track recorder now available in hi md which is rather an exciting prospect. perhaps the subject of another thread... Merry Chrisitmas to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demircelik Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 You cannot run NetMD with Windows7 64bit directly, there are (and will never be) no drivers for it. However "XP compatibility mode" should solve your problem though I haven't done that myself since I don't have Win64 capable CPU/motherboard. Not sure how you install those USB drivers in XP compatibilituy mode, but I believe someone here did it. Vista-64, fuhgeddaboudid. At least with your setup you have a chance. You may have to start by downloading the XP compatibility mode (actually it's a full copy of XP to host under the new OS) assuming that's included in the price of W7-Home. Stephen I have copied three files : NetMD760.SYS And everything worked with all my walkmans in NetMD format - for Windows7 in 64bit. I could not, however, get it to work for another machine, Windows7, but in 32bit. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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