J77R Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi I have unearthed my Sharp NetMD IM-DR400E minidisc recorder and I thought I would try to give use it again after many years of no use. Quite surprised it still works! But I have been totally unable to get my Windows 8 pc to recognise it when connected by its usb cable. I have tried to search for a driver from the original BeatJam CD disc but the drivers must be so outdated Windows 8 won't recognise them. I have tried installing the most recent version of Sonic Stage that I found on here, but still no drivers will recognise the device. Can anybody help me out with usb drivers or should I just give up hope on this aged device lol Many Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I thought we went through this. But I see there is no sign of Sharp drivers in the NetMD 64-bit download. Here are some questions for everyone (OP included, of course - BTW welcome to our madcap band of minidisc nuts!) Question 1: has this device (indeed other Sharp devices) ever worked with Sonic Stage? Or only Beat Jam? Question 2: What are the VID and PID for the USB connector on this device (easy - look at the uninstalled items in device manager, look for yellow exclamations, then drill down until you see the Device IDs. I'd be very surprised if Sharp used all their own device keys (sorry, technical term to describe the encryption scheme that's built into NetMD), and more inclined to believe they simply copied all the technology that they licensed from Sony. I am more than willing to throw the appropriate lines into NETMD760.INF and send it to you by email to try. Sergio? John? Anyone at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sescoscuba Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi standard usb to connect to pc. Sonic stage don t see the sharp IM -dr 420. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azureal Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I know we got my Sharp IM-DR80 to work using this same method of USB ID discovery, then adding the appropriate lines to the .inf file. I think if the OP can provide those IDs as you stated they should do the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 In which case let's throw as many as possible in and revise both 32- and 64- bit drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J77R Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I thought we went through this. But I see there is no sign of Sharp drivers in the NetMD 64-bit download. Here are some questions for everyone (OP included, of course - BTW welcome to our madcap band of minidisc nuts!) Question 1: has this device (indeed other Sharp devices) ever worked with Sonic Stage? Or only Beat Jam? Question 2: What are the VID and PID for the USB connector on this device (easy - look at the uninstalled items in device manager, look for yellow exclamations, then drill down until you see the Device IDs. I'd be very surprised if Sharp used all their own device keys (sorry, technical term to describe the encryption scheme that's built into NetMD), and more inclined to believe they simply copied all the technology that they licensed from Sony. I am more than willing to throw the appropriate lines into NETMD760.INF and send it to you by email to try. Sergio? John? Anyone at all? Hi Thank you for replying. I have used only Beat Jam with this device that was years ago on Windows XP or Vista. I will copy and paste what I think you asked for in question 2. USBVID_04DD&PID_9013&REV_0100 USBVID_04DD&PID_9013 USBVID_04DD&PID_90135&2E981854&0&1 Hope they help I appreciate your help ty My name is John and my email is john77reid@live.com Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Email sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misjah Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hi, there! I have a same problem and i really didnt get it how to work it out, would you help me please. I check ViD and PID and there are the same like in the post USBVID_04DD&PID_9013&REV_0100 USBVID_04DD&PID_9013 Every help is appreciated, thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misjah Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 After long night finally got it thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sorry had a busy day yesterday and looked briefly but hoping someone else might chime in. It works? Great news. I never heard from OP so didn't actually know. THIS IS A FORMAL CALL TO ALL SHARP NetMD owners to send in your PIDs and model numbers so I can clean up the .INF file(s). Welcome to the gang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sescoscuba Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 THIS IS A FORMAL CALL TO ALL SHARP NetMD owners to send in your PIDs. What does it mean PIDs and how may find it in my Sharp recorder? A good day to all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 mayber this helps out a bit Sharp IM-MT880 / IM-MT899; ID: 0x4dd, 0x7202 Sharp IM-DR400 / IM-DR410 / ID: 0x4dd, 0x9013 Sharp IM-DR420; ID: 0x4dd, 0x9014 Sharp IM-DR80 = Sharp IM-DR580 = Kenwood DMC-S9NET; ID: 0x4dd, 0x9014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Thanks, much appreciated. Do they all work with SS and NetMD? Or have you tested none of them? Final question: how many (and obviously,. what) other models with NetMD, that you know of, exist? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 They should work with SS . I did not test all of them as i don´t have all these machines. In the German MInidisc forum there´s a thread about the usb vid´s. That´s what i found -> HiMD Buffalo MD-HUSB same as MZ NH600; ID: Sony MZ-NH600; ID: 054C 0186 Sony MZ-NH700; ID: Sony MZ-NHF800; ID: Sony MZ-NH900; ID: Sony MZ-NH1; ID: 0x54c, 0x17e Sony MZ-NH3D; ID: 0x54c, 0x180 Sony LAM-X1 (Minianlage); ID: 0x54c, 0x80 Sony MZ-RH710; ID: 054C 0186 Sony MZ-RH910 = MZ-M10; ID: 0x54c, 0x21b Sony MZ-RH10 = MZ-M100; ID: 0x54c, 0x219 Sony MZ-DH10P; ID: 0x54c, 0x1e9 Sony MZ-RH1 = MZ-M200; ID: 054c:0286 Sony CMT-AH10; ID: 0x54c, 0x22c Sony DS-HMD1; ID: 0x54c, 0x23cNetMD Aiwa AM-NX1; ID: 0x54c, 0x113 Aiwa AM-NX9; ID: 0x54c, 0x14c Sony MZ-N1; ID: 0x54c, 0x75 Sony MZ-N505; ID: 0x54c, 0x84 Sony MZ-N707; ID: 0x54c, 0x86 Sony MZ-S1; ID: 0x54c, 0x85 Sony Mz-N10; ID: 0x54c, 0xc6 Sony MZ-NE410; ID: 0x54c, 0xca Sony MZ-N510; ID: 0x54c, 0xc9 Sony MZ-NF610; ID: 0x54c, 0xc9 Sony MZ-N710; ID: 0x54c, 0xc8 Sony MZ-NF810; ID: 0x54c, 0xc8 Sony MZ-NE810; ID: 0x54c, 0xc8 Sony MZ-N910; ID: 0x54c, 0xc7 Sony MZ-N420; ID: Sony MZ-NF520; ID: 0x54c, 0xca Sony MZ-NE810; ID: 0x54c, 0xeb Sony MZ-NE910; ID: 0x54c, 0xeb Sony MZ-N920; ID: Sony MZ-DN430; ID: 054C 00CA Decks: Sony MDS-NT1; ID: Sony MDS-JE780; ID: 054C 0081 Sony MDS-JB980; ID: 054C 0081 Sharp IM-MT880 / IM-MT899; ID: 0x4dd, 0x7202 Sharp IM-DR400 / IM-DR410 / ID: 0x4dd, 0x9013 Sharp IM-DR420; ID: 0x4dd, 0x9014 Sharp IM-DR80 = Sharp IM-DR580 = Kenwood DMC-S9NET; ID: 0x4dd, 0x9014 I think there are some more but i don´t find these now. Do you know about the linux minidisc project? take a look as there are some more i think. https://github.com/AlexanderS/linux-minidisc/blob/master/libnetmd/netmd_dev.c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 No worries; I'll check but I suspect we have the Sony's down. It's the Sharp that I am particularly interested in. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillies Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi guys I have been trawling through all this for a couple days. I am way confused. I d/l the sonicsoundstage ultimate version but I cant get/find the drivers for my Sharp Net Md IM-DR410E(s) Been reading a lot of conflicting posts on various sites with a lot of old dead ends. Im not even sure allthough some say to the contrary sonic sound stage is compatible. Is there an alterntive software or how indeed do i find these mystery drivers...... Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hang on Pete. We will have something for you shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Here are the two inf files for 32 and 64 bits Please try them, anyone with Sharp devices It's possible I got this wrong so please test and comment. After that I will put in downloads section. Thanks {EDIT} Please see the 32- and 64- bit drivers in the downloads section. The zip file attached to this post has been removed in order to "unconfuse" new visitors to the site. Admin PS drivers are at (32 bits); and (64 bits) Edited March 27, 2014 by sfbp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sescoscuba Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Tested: Sharp IM-MT880 / IM-MT899; i vent the dedicated connection cable usb Sharp IM-DR410 / ID: perfect Sharp IM-DR420; perfect Sharp IM-DR80 / 580 perfect Kenwood DMC-S9NET; lost in a corner in my home, i will find it Great work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Tell whether you used 32 (052) or 64 (760)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sescoscuba Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 win 7 64 bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thanks. Is there anyone out there that is running 32 bits and has Sharp devices? Doesn't matter if xp, vista or 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Kenwood DMC-S9NET; lost in a corner in my home, i will find it Great work ! this Kenwood will work for sure as it uses the same driver as the DR 80 and so on. Hey Stephen were these the files i posted u fitted in ? I didn´t try on my sys (win7 64) but i will be testing in a couple of days. Last time i used these Sharp´s to record via Usb is very long ago.Think these were the days when i was iusing xp Greetings to all of you edit i assume they will work on both 32 and 64 bit versions. Alright DR580 and DR410 do work. What bothers me is that i can´t use the Aiwa AM-NX9. I tried to figure out why it don´t work a long time ago.Now that i´ve updated again it still don´t work. I assume its the wrong Vid for the Unit.Anybody out there who could check ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 But the NX9 ***does*** work, you need to get rid of all (NetMD) drivers and start again with the one posted recently. Certainly the one in this thread has NX9 support. I think the one in downloads section does too (they will shortly become the same). Yes I got these ID's from your post #12. Didn't look at the non-Sharp stuff, feel free to pounce on anything which is missing from either one of the INF files. Sergio has clearly tested most of them under 64 bits. So verification on the 32 bits ones would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I edited my drivers the first time some years ago to match my recorders. I remember that i tried a couple of times to get the Aiwa unit working but it doesn´t. Alright i got it. Now it **does** work You should edit the .inf filr in the win7 and 64 bits section with that line %NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USBVID_054C&PID_014C ; AM-NX9 It was simply missing all the time. Although been fitted to win2k and so on it couldn´t work until this line is inserted in the Win7 64 bit section. See it didn´t work before.I told you So just edit teh .inf before you push it into the download section. I´ll see if i can get some more sharp VID .. greet Sergio has clearly tested most of them under 64 bits. So verification on the 32 bits ones would be great. Yea i read that and i tested ´em too. The Ids are the same in all these versions so the will work on either 32 and 64 bits... for sure. What is different from mine -> - Sony DN430/NF520 - 054c:00ca same as NE410 - Sony MZ-RH710; 054C 0186 same as NH600 is typed DH710 for whatever reasons. To have the List complete some could edit the names.Of course this won´t add any devices for sure.I just saw the .inf looks different from mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 As you say these don't add anything - it can be commented to show a person reading the file that the support is there. I apologize, the NX9 needed to be added in THREE places in NETMD760.INF and I missed the last one. Will fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Sorry it took so long but both 32-bit and 64-bit driver compilations have been updated for Sharp (and fixed for Aiwa NX-9 in 64-bits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smh2011 Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi guys, another 'newbie'. I downloaded the 32 bit file for windows vista but I can't open it. I get an error message "You are attempting to open a SYSTEM (.sys) file. Windows cannot open this type of file. Please choose the program you wish to open the file" etc., etc.. What do I do with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hehe. Open it. Vista 32 bits, correct? Just making sure you have the right download. What you may be missing is something to convert the package (it's a .zip file in Windows parlance) and extract the 3 components. In more recent versions of Windows the installer (IT needs to open the files not you) can find them as if the .zip file were a folder itself. However all you have to do is to put the three files in some folder where for the installer can with your assistance install them from. You may need some help. However if the above isn't gobbledygook, go ahead and make a folder called C:MDDrivers. Install Winzip or 7zip or Winrar, unpack the zip into that new folder. Now comes the tricky bit. I am assuming you already plugged in the Sharp and gave you a nasty yellow exclamation point in Device Manager. Right click that, and select "Update driver". If it asks, you may have tell it where to find the drivers. Point it at C:MDDrivers and you're basically done, except that Windows will try to tell you this driver is unsigned and that this is a dangerous thing to do. Make sure it knows you're the boss! I'm sorry if this is pitched too high or too low. There are a lot of gaps to fill and I had to guess. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smh2011 Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hehe. Open it. Vista 32 bits, correct? Just making sure you have the right download. What you may be missing is something to convert the package (it's a .zip file in Windows parlance) and extract the 3 components. In more recent versions of Windows the installer (IT needs to open the files not you) can find them as if the .zip file were a folder itself. However all you have to do is to put the three files in some folder where for the installer can with your assistance install them from. You may need some help. However if the above isn't gobbledygook, go ahead and make a folder called C:MDDrivers. Install Winzip or 7zip or Winrar, unpack the zip into that new folder. Now comes the tricky bit. I am assuming you already plugged in the Sharp and gave you a nasty yellow exclamation point in Device Manager. Right click that, and select "Update driver". If it asks, you may have tell it where to find the drivers. Point it at C:MDDrivers and you're basically done, except that Windows will try to tell you this driver is unsigned and that this is a dangerous thing to do. Make sure it knows you're the boss! I'm sorry if this is pitched too high or too low. There are a lot of gaps to fill and I had to guess. Good luck! Thanks very much for the advice. I followed your instructions and managed (on the second attempt) to update the driver. Now all I have to do is try it out, I've run out of time now but I'll get back to it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Great. Keep us posted. If you got some sort of message saying it copied the files, you're probably "in like Flynn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ter Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Hello friendly diskussun on this page.I have device Sharp IM-DR. 580 h. and has no drivers for it, would be grateful if I got help in doing so. Istallatios disc are BET-JAM but Windows 7-32 bit x 86 which I have ,denied and uppmutrade, to seek new ones from the Internet. USB/VID_04DD&PID_9014/ 5&5................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Use the drivers referred to in this thread. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircuits Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Hi all, So I downloaded the Sharp4xxx.zip file and installed it. I then plugged my Sharp NetMD IM-DR420H(S) into the USB and my computer did not recognize it. I then downloaded the testnewinf.zip file and unzipped it and under Device Manager, pointed the "update driver" to the testnewinf folder I just extracted. And I got this strange message: Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it. Net MD The system cannot find the file specified. Attached is a screenshot. Can someone help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Wrong driver.You are running w7 64 bits yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircuits Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Oh my God! It worked! Thank you thank you thank you! I bought 10 of these off Ebay and for some reason it just never recognized it. This is awesome. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 If you read from the beginning of the thread, the new drivers (actually designed for MZ-RH1) were not able to be installed for most Sony NetMD units, or ANY Sharps. The result was a little project which I and Azureal worked on, and the driver package (the magic is all in the install files, the driver itself is unchanged) you downloaded was the result of that project. There's also a "play-all-known-units" driver for 32-bits, just in case you wanted to use it on XP, which is generally 32-bits only, or Vista or W7 in the 32-bit versions. Glad you got it working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guusp Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would like to connect my sharp IM-DR420H. I have downloaded "NetMD Driver 64-bit Win7 or Vista Version 1.2" and tried to install this driver on windows 10, 64 bit. I received this warning: "Windows found diver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it. The Hash for the file is not present in the specified catalog file. The file is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering." Did I do something wrong? Or does this driver not work on windows 10? I would be great if it would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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