PhilippeC Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I wish to buy something soon for my Rh1 so please fell free to advise me. Price under 250 euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Have you tried Grado? I use a SR-80i with my RH1 all the Time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another MD fanatic Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Will you be using them while travelling around or are they for use at home? This will make a big difference to what's suitable and what isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippeb Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I am found of the Sennheiser HD 555. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olufsen Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Sennheiser IE 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Will you be using them while travelling around or are they for use at home? This will make a big difference to what's suitable and what isn't. home & walking around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDietrich Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.headfonia.com/philips-fidelio-l1/ Costs 150 Euros right now. Warm, not completely neutral, very well manufactured (leather / aluminum). Ear cushions not replaceable. Cable replaceable. Very easy to drive. http://eu.skullcandy.com/shop/headphones/over-ear-headphones/aviator Cool looking, good built quality. Might not be the best fit for big ears. Sonic signature tends to focus on bass and treble, otherwise fairly balanced. Undifferentiated (because of the clear plastic caps). Tried it, sent it back (my head seems to be too big). Can be bought for roughly 80 Euros right now. Worth their money and definitely better than their reputation. Not the loudest though. http://en-de.sennheiser.com/over-ear-headphone-momentum-stereo Beautiful headphones with aluminum and leather. Right now costs roughly 220 Euros. Still too expensive. Nice, warm sound signature. Cable and cushions replaceable. Ignore the on-ear version, the over-ear version is superior. Easy to drive. http://en-de.sennheiser.com/noise-cancelling-headphones-audio-stereo-bass-closed-hd-449 Plastic everywhere. Warm sound signature, not enough treble resolution on occasion. I own the predecessor and love it (apart from design, the HD-448 is exactly the same). Easy to drive but not the loudest. http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/dt-1350.html?SID=23d820197e4728271b54a463ff01f4b0&___store=en&___from_store=de Don´t like Beyerdynamic but many others do. Not neutral, focuses on bass and treble. Very dynamic headphones. Good built quality, everything is replaceable. Easy to drive. These are all closed headphones so you won´t hear much when walking outside. In case you´re listening exclusively at home, don´t connect them to a stationary device as those will have a high output impedance and will probably distort these headphones' sound signature. In any case, if it´s possible, listen to them before you make a decision. Headphones are highly subjective. What I like might be horrible for you and vice versa. I can´t recommend IEMs since I always want to tweak how they sit in my ear. IEMs depend so much on correct placement... I hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hey what about the Grados MDietrich ? Don´t you like them too? I generally use them at home but did some train riding with them too. You need to know these were open Headphones so disturbing your neighbor is inclusive I can speak for the (Koss) Porta Pro too. I like how easy they can be arranged and how they sound as well.They were also quite affordable.. i think 40-50€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsla Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I second PunkRockAddicit's choice - with a bullet! I have both the Grado 60i and the 80i. The 80i model is $99.00 and the 60i model is $79.00. I personally don't hear much difference between the two. Don't let the relatively low price decive you. They are without question the best sounding headphones I've ever used. For one thing, they don't color the sound with emphasised highs or lows. You get a very transparent listening experience and somehow a 3 dimentional effect on certain recordings; as if you were in the studio or at the concert during the performance. There is no special circuitry built in for that effect; it's just how good they are. The design styling is definately not up-to-date, (who cares?), and they don't fold up but, I often carry a pair for on-the-go MiniDisc listening with no problems / they don't have huge cans and aren't heavy. Very comfortable to wear, and for a long time if so happens. I do have a pair of AKG K81DJ headphones that I use for subway travel listening because the closed back doesn't disturb other people and the ear cups are more isolating. They fold up to some extent and they sound pretty good, (w/ some low end emphasis), but not up to the sound quality of the Grado headphones. Just my two cents on the question and I acknowledge that which headphones sound great to any particular individual is very subjective. One piece of testing advice: don't listen to too many different headphones at one time. After about 10 minutes or so of listening to music your ears ability to hear certain frequencies accurately tends to deminish. Listen to a few, then take a break to let you ears recover. I know this symptom well from years of shopping for cymbals. -ja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arr-Nine-Hundred Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I use Sennheiser PX200 - they sound very good, not too tight and are foldable so excellent for travellers. The earpads are user replaceable, I bought a pack of 4 cheap and reasonably made 3rd party replacements from eBay when the original pair started falling apart. Should be bought way under your budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Totally agree with Arr-Nine-Hundred on the Sennie PX200. A lot of value for your money there! I also have the Sennie CX-200...nice but not as nice as the PX200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulDenton Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Sennheiser IE 80. Never had a chance to test these, but i am pretty sure they are badass, probably for my taste, great bass, thick sounding.I use Shure 215 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thank everybody, feel free to comment further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDietrich Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hey what about the Grados MDietrich ? Don´t you like them too? I generally use them at home but did some train riding with them too. You need to know these were open Headphones so disturbing your neighbor is inclusive I can speak for the (Koss) Porta Pro too. I like how easy they can be arranged and how they sound as well.They were also quite affordable.. i think 40-50€. Erm... I don´t like Grados very much I´m afraid. Their sound signature favors treble too much for my taste (at least with the one I´ve heard... I´ve forgotten which model it was. One of their more expensive ones, that I remember). To me this headphone sounded brittle and aggressive. I would have recommended the PortaPro (bit too bassy and coloured - but it´s still one of the best portable headphones) too but he said that he wants to use them outside and so I only looked for closed headphones. The Koss SportaPro might have been a good idea but since I´ve never heard it I cannot comment on its sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I have already a Koss Portapro. So what is realy better in sound quality (headphone open or not) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDietrich Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I have already a Koss Portapro. So what is realy better in sound quality (headphone open or not) ? Depends. I know many excellent open headphones as well as excellent closed headphones. As I said, listen to headphones before you buy them as they are a very subjective experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I will test them to my Koss Portapro and Koss plug in-ear phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulDenton Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 My dream headphone would be Audeze Lcd-2 Rev. 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioArtist Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I've been using the AudioTechnica M-40fs headphones for years. They are flat response and designed specifically for honest reproduction which you need for serious studio work. If I remember correctly their freq. response goes from 2-10Hz up to 22kHz. You can really crank these things up too! Enough so that even a kit drummer could use them for playback and recording monitoring without distortion or blowing the drivers up. I'm unsure if AT still does, but they used to offer replacement parts for them and they can be disassembled and rebuilt easily. I really wouldn't recommend them for travel or walking around though. AT has been making this model for approx 20 years with no changes they're that good and very modestly priced at 60-80$(us) My only complaint about them is that they tend to make vocals sound a bit hotter in a mix than they will sound on your nearfield monitors or on the end users home stereo, so it's always wise to switch over to your monitors and give a little extra boost to vocals and in some cases you lead/solo instrument. Otherwise they do an excellent job when used for balancing your instrument mix, very accurate stereo sound field reproduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zokuchou Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I also have a pair of Audio Technica headphones - ATH-M50's. As per the previous post they have a flat response and are very detailed. Quite a large headphone so a little cumbersome when walking the dog! Comfortable headband and large over-ear cups. If you are looking at something more portable then I would suggested getting a lighter headphone for day-to-day commutes. Large over-ear cups are nice in winter but certainly give you hot'n'sweaty ears during summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDietrich Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I´ve reviewed three headphones on my blog a few days ago: http://marlene-d.blogspot.de/2014/04/mini-reviews-sennheiser-momentum.html http://marlene-d.blogspot.de/2014/04/review-sennheiser-hd-558-modded.html Perhaps one of those might be of interest for Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another MD fanatic Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just read your headphone reviews MDietrich, very interesting. I've heard the Momentums and I wasn't really that impressed. They came across as having a very "nice" sound, possibly tuned to appeal to the masses and somehow justify the price? But they certainly don't have an accurate, detailed sound. Now I can see why, looking at the graph the Momentum's have an awful lot of roll-off at the top end. I also noted your comments about the earcups being too small, couldn't agree more. I'm currently using some Shure SRH440's which I know aren't everyone's cup of tea but there's loads of top end detail which I like. Seems the majority of headphones these days have rolled off top ends, I'd be interested to hear about any others apart from Shure that keep the high notes (full size, closed back). As portable MD's have a bass boost function you can always compensate a little if your headphones are a bit light in the bass department but if the treble is lacking you're more or less stuck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDietrich Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just read your headphone reviews MDietrich, very interesting. I've heard the Momentums and I wasn't really that impressed. They came across as having a very "nice" sound, possibly tuned to appeal to the masses and somehow justify the price? But they certainly don't have an accurate, detailed sound. Now I can see why, looking at the graph the Momentum's have an awful lot of roll-off at the top end. I also noted your comments about the earcups being too small, couldn't agree more. I'm currently using some Shure SRH440's which I know aren't everyone's cup of tea but there's loads of top end detail which I like. Seems the majority of headphones these days have rolled off top ends, I'd be interested to hear about any others apart from Shure that keep the high notes (full size, closed back). As portable MD's have a bass boost function you can always compensate a little if your headphones are a bit light in the bass department but if the treble is lacking you're more or less stuck with it. Judging from its frequency response, the Shure wouldn´t be my cup of tea I think. It has a very prominent and fairly wide peak around 10 kHz, muted deep bass and slightly diminished mids. In comparison, it´s no wonder that the Momentum ends up muffled. The Shure has too much treble, the Momentum not enough. Today, headphones are engineered differently compared to several years ago. Reason is that several companies have started to incorporate recent 'discoveries' regarding headphone sound. People experience playback over loudspeakers less direct and more muffled. Headphones now tend to include that experience into their sound design. It all started more than 20 years ago when Sennheiser first introduced the HD-580 to the market. Several people regarded (and still do) it as 'veiled' sounding when it actually sounded balanced and leveled out. But people were so used to the sound of other, treble-heavy cans that the sound of the HD-580 felt muted to them. Harman Kardon has done important work regarding this. But if you want to stay with Shure, you could try the SRH-840, that headphone is famous for its balanced sound signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Has anybody an experience with B&W headphones ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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