MDS_W1 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi everyone. I didn't see the new members area, so i'm posting here first. I'm the proud new owner of a Sony MDS-W1 dual MD recorder deck. I'm looking for a PDF of the owners manual. Also, does anyone know how to copy pre-recorded MDs? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 philippeb is the one who can help you I think http://forums.sonyinsider.com/user/51093-philippeb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippeb Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Also, does anyone know how to copy pre-recorded MDs? Thanks. The Disc->Disc 1Tr Move function will not work with pre-recorded MDs, because it requires a writable source disc. You still have two options: 1. you can do a digital copy from deck A to deck B by selecting A-MD input on deck B, 2. or an analog copy by selecting ANALG A-MD input on deck B. Then: 1. play the pre-recorded disck on deck A, and record on deck B, 2. copy the track names one by one with Disc->Disc Name Copy on deck A. User manual is available at http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3862570121.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 :D my Denon MD Replicator does the Job as he does everything i put into on a clone MD even MDLP and whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS_W1 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 The Disc->Disc 1Tr Move function will not work with pre-recorded MDs, because it requires a writable source disc. You still have two options: 1. you can do a digital copy from deck A to deck B by selecting A-MD input on deck B, 2. or an analog copy by selecting ANALG A-MD input on deck B. Then: 1. play the pre-recorded disck on deck A, and record on deck B, 2. copy the track names one by one with Disc->Disc Name Copy on deck A. User manual is available at http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3862570121.pdf If I do a real-time copying of the pre-recorded MD, won't it recompress it again with ATRAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrockaddict Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yes it will.That is like every recording . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 The W1 and the professional MD replicators from Denon and Sony do it digitally with no compression. The Denon seem to be the only one in MDLP mode. Mortal fans as I am must record in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Re: Lossless copying using the MDS-W1. Not sure this is quite what you're looking for, but maybe it will help in some way. A while back, when it looked like I was going to acquire a W1 (never happened), someone told me about this trick, which I have saved just in case. I have not edited this in any way, but it's pretty much self-explanatory. If you mean SCMS bits, they are completely ignored when cloning a track or a disc, that is they are duplicated along with the tracks, without limitation. The reason is that the cloning procedure uses the disc to disc track MOVE operation, which creates copies of the original tracks on the target disc, and then ERASEs the original tracks on the source disc. It is clear that moving tracks should not be limited in any way (and that SCMS bits should be moved along) because no extra copy is created in the process. After moving one or more tracks, I eject the target disc, enter service mode and exit it. This procedure transforms the disc to disc MOVE into a lovely but undocumented lossless disc to disc COPY, because exiting service mode ejects the source disc without writing the TOC! The source disc is left intact, the "deleted" tracks are back, untouched. You can imagine how happy I felt the first time I verified the procedure, that I had figured out *before* acquiring the double deck. It worked perfectly, creating an island of health and sanity in this DRM contaminated world. Had they trusted their customers, omitted SCMS and DRM in the first place, Sony would have conquered the world of digital music recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 phamcu has modified one of his W1 to avoid entering in the service mode during the copy process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippeb Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 If I do a real-time copying of the pre-recorded MD, won't it recompress it again with ATRAC? Yes it will. Lossless copy with the W1 requires a writable source disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS_W1 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hmmm...it seems that there are limitation to the MDS-W1 in terms of copying pre-recorded MDs or cloning other MDs without the system erasing the source disc. Why would Sony do this? If I see that the MDS-W1 isn't doing what I thought it could do, I may consider selling or trading it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I rather thought we'd seen the last of you, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugbahr Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Welcome back!?If it's not to your liking, will you be offering it on this forum? Or only linking to an external site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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