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My band has an old show from 2009 recorded via a Sony MZ-R37 that I was transferring into Pro Tools tonight. I foolishly pressed up on the red record slider twice thinking it was the power button. I believe I erased the first song in the set and part of the 2nd. Is there any way to recover the beginning of that recording (which was track 1)? The rest of the show now starts at track 3. Can’t believe I am even asking this question after being an engineer and producer for 30 years.
 
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Steve
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As long as you didn't record anything AFTER this button pushing, you are OK. You need to learn how to do TOC cloning. Not sure of the specifics for your unit, but usually it will need a deck!

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Thank you sfbp. I appreciate your help. To clarify, I foolishly pushed the record slider up two separate times and each time pushed stop finishing the operation. Can't believe I did that. I need glasses. There is now a blank track 1 that is about 3 minutes long and a blank track 2 which is about 1 minute long which were created. This does correlate with the length of the erased first song and part of the 2nd song from the show, which the remainder of has now moved to track 3.

If I do the TOC cloning operation the original recorded performance will be intact as one track? The manual at https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/res/manuals/W000/W0007377M.pdf has me worried.

Thank you again,

Steve

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Thank you Kevin. Is it possible to do the TOC cloning procedure with the MiniDisc Walkman MZ-R37 that I currently have?

I did transfer the remaining tracks via analog into Pro Tools using an Apogee Duet 2 so I do have a safety copy of most of the show. Just missing the first 4 minutes or so, which was the opening song and part of song 2.

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Hi Steven,

Honestly I don't know! I've never done it and the instructions generally relate to decks. Your machine seems to date after several of the decks listed but the DSP that is quoted on minidisc.org is the 2652 which is the version before the 2654. The 2654 is used in the MDS-JE520 which is a popular deck (in general) and one of the first to allow you to do this TOC cloning thing. Admittedly the cloning cheat is more likely to relate to firmware features on the microcontroller rather than the DSP, it's just the DSP chip number tends to be a pointer to features appearing in the evolution of the products.

You might be looking for a friend with a suitable deck or visiting your favourite auction site for a suitable machine (caution - this is path fraught with danger - just look at many of us on here who once upon a time had one MD machine and now have *cough* "more than one" shall we say). I'm assuming you're in the US? (In which case I can't offer to help as I'm in the UK).

Sorry I can't help more at this stage: so the answer to your question is "possibly, but this is not documented territory".

Regards,
Kevin

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10 hours ago, sfbp said:

As long as you didn't record anything AFTER this button pushing, you are OK. You need to learn how to do TOC cloning. Not sure of the specifics for your unit, but usually it will need a deck!

Hi Steven,

I confirm what sfbp said. I routinely restore accidentaly erased minidisc TOCs with a MDS-JB920 deck. I have done it for other forum members, and could do it for you as well. I am located in France.

Philippe

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Thank you Kevin and Philippe. I would prefer not to ship internationally if possible.

I definitely recorded two new tracks and if I did not actually erase or record over the original audio data that would be a huge relief.

In a perfect world I would love to get this recording recovered and also transferred digitally to 24 bit / 44. kHz WAV. I also have one other live recording from a show in 2007 on MiniDisc with a good TOC that I would like to get transferred digitally. I believe these are the only two shows of ours that were recorded via MiniDisc.

Thank you again for all of your help.

Steve

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