exaromar Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 (edited) Hi there,I'm looking for a new gadget and at the moment, there were 2 that i'm considering:1) Sony NW-A8062) Iriver Clix 2I already had the possibility to test nr.1 Sound was amazing, but the only thing, I noticed was a lack of pressure in the "heavy-demo-track" on the player.Unfortunatelly I don't know how the track is called. This lack I mentioned is relates to the dynamic of the track not to the bass-reproduction. Maybe this is what DSP noticed, when he ""compared"" the Cowon F2 with the sony.Or is this just the character of the demo track ?!And as i couldn't test the SQ of the Clix 2 i'm a bit undecided Is there someone who has compared those two gadgets?Or has any experience with iriver & sony units so far ?Furthermore i wanted to know what colour you would recommend...I tend getting a white nw-a806 if it should be the Sony,but the surface structure is different from that of the black one.It seems to be rough ?!? And that's the problem... I fear, it could appeardirty after some time of use, as there is no "protectiv film" like on the black model.Thanks ahead (is this the right expression ? as you probably can see my english could need some improvement ) Edited June 3, 2007 by exaromar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Stuge Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Welcome to AtracLife!I don;t have idea regarding both of the players ,but still you can look at the specifications of Clix2 -> http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 exaromar Posted June 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Hi Stuge,thx for the take in & the post !I already filled my head up with information of those 2 players and read many manytopics on both players.But I never found a comparision between those two...unfortunatelly !Even for a direction I would be thankfullSo if someone would say, take the Sony, it's the best unit in SQ you can get, I would be verythankfull :-DBtw...nice community in here ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 markey Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 (edited) Hi exaromar I would go for the black A806 if the Sony is the one you decide on. I held the white one on Thursday and before long it would turn gray in colour. Unfortunately I can't compare the Sony with the Iriver, as I have no experience with Iriver products. BTW your English is fine. At least you can speak another language, most of us English are lazy and expect everyone to speak ours Edited June 3, 2007 by ANGRYBADGER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 hign n mighty Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 NEVER LISTENED 2 CLIX BEFORED BUT I DOUBT IF IRIVER CAN ON A PAR WITH SONY WHEN IT COMES 2 SQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Shinji Ikeda Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Hi Stuge,thx for the take in & the post !I already filled my head up with information of those 2 players and read many manytopics on both players.But I never found a comparision between those two...unfortunatelly !Even for a direction I would be thankfullSo if someone would say, take the Sony, it's the best unit in SQ you can get, I would be verythankfull :-DBtw...nice community in here !The preference would be towards the NW-A800 series, but the Clix2 has a nice crisp interface. The screen size of Clix2 is about the same as the NW-A800 series. The strong support for Sony SQ over other players, but with some iRivers a close second. The Clix2 design is cleaner than the NW-A800 series, and I would say is sexier than the latter model. I am surprised that the Clix2 is not considered to be the best overall product, even better than that product I refuse to mention. However the Clix2 seems to be designed to be used with two hands. I do not own the Clix2, but I did consider it as my next purchase. I was turned off it by the battery life, and that it seemed to require two hands to operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bangraman Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 NEVER LISTENED 2 CLIX BEFORED BUT I DOUBT IF IRIVER CAN ON A PAR WITH SONY WHEN IT COMES 2 SQ Cast your doubts aside. I own both (and more). Many players can match or beat the Sonys these days. More than that though, I think the iRiver is a better package than the Sony. The Sony's better made and there is more attention to detail in some areas of the machine, but the iRiver pretty much has it all... ease of use, considerably easier / more flexible to load, respectable specs and decent SQ. As far as my personal experiences go, you're far more likely to find the Clix2 a bigger part of your everyday listening life than the Sony.But that's not to say the Sony is not a helluva neat machine, because it is. It's just that the iRiver has the overall usage thing sorted out better partly because it doesn't use Chronicstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 NOiPod Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 I was considering the Clix 2 vs NW-A808 as I need a 8gb player as Im going on holiday etc, so forked out for the Sony. If the 8gb of the clix 2 was available that would be my personal choice, has the bigger screen, sleek design, more features, battery not on par but acceptable. If the 8gb is reasonably priced which is due for release next month, I may sell my NW-A808 and get the clix 2. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 exaromar Posted June 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 (edited) good morning to everyone...it's near afternoon right now first of all i wanna thank you for your great support !!!and @ angrybadger: thx for the compliment, but to be honest, http://dict.leo.org is a great little helper !things that hold me off the clix 2 are basically the d-click navigation system !it doesn't seem to have a great build quality and i fear, that clicking is extremely loud...maybe@ bangramannice to have a person here that has both units, prepare to get pestered with questions i couldn't exactly figure out, weather the sony or the iriver has a better sound performance,regarding your post.considering the features, clix2 is certainly doing the race.whereas sonicstage is no problem..i'm using it for 4 years right now !is it right, that the top plate of the clix 2 is rattling ? how many "play" is there ? Edited June 3, 2007 by exaromar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gotthat Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 sony is still the one, lovely design and great sound quality, nice battery juices too, plus A800 has got other functions too now, light and small, if u don't like the ex phone that they give u along with the player, u can always get a better earphones, overall A800 beats iriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 exaromar Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 plus A800 has got other functions toowhat other functions are those ?? have you tested the iriver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Zephir Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) A lot, and i repeat, a lot of people have worried that the top of the clix 2 going to come off their player because of the flimsy design. However, it is a very sturdy player over all and with the care that you give to any electronics, it's going to last a long time. As for SQ, a very trusted review site has said that the clix 2 is on par with the nw-a808 in term of sound quality (www.trustedreviews.com) also, it is not fair to go here to get one side of the problem. You can go to clixhere.net and hear what people say about the clix 2. In my opinion, the selling point of nw-a808 over the clix 2 is it's ability to play h264 movie files. As an offset, it lacks many features the clix has (voice recording, fm radio, fm recording) Transfering music is an ease with MTP too (sync with windows media 11) windows media 11 is much much better to organize your music than sonicstage. the clix also supports drag-and-drop function. Clix, in my opinion is just better overall.Edit: forgot to mention, a while ago somebody was selling their clix 2 on ebay because it drop from a moderate height and the screen gets messed up, I have accidentally dropped my nw-a806 too from standing up and it still functions properly. The nw-a806 is much more sturdy compared to the clix, another point you should put into consideration if you're afraid you may drop the player anytime soon. nw-a806 also has better battery life too (30 hours music, 8 hours video compared to the clix's 25 hour music)Maybe you would like a cowon d2 with touchscreen along with all function of the clix 2 with a whooping 50 hours of music. I have both the nw-a806 and the cowon d2 and i have to say that the cowon does sound better plus you have SD card expansion. Edited June 4, 2007 by Zephir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 exaromar Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) hey zephir !thx for your detailed post !!!the more i consider the pros & cons of the sony and iriver, the d2 is just getting more and more friendly to me...i read many threads about the d2 and most people say that it sound veryanalytical... how is this compared to the sony.. i have no clue if the sony has a warm soundcharakter or an analytical, at leastit liked itwhat lacks the sony, that the d2 has ? bassreproduction ?is the EQ of the D2 working as well as the sony ?an answer referring to this would be very important to me !!!!! thanks in advance for your timeps: last question...is it right that if you use sd-cards with the cowon, the acculife is reduced by ~15h ? Edited June 5, 2007 by exaromar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ceres Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 hey zephir !thx for your detailed post !!!the more i consider the pros & cons of the sony and iriver, the d2 is just getting more and more friendly to me...i read many threads about the d2 and most people say that it sound veryanalytical... how is this compared to the sony.. i have no clue if the sony has a warm soundcharakter or an analytical, at leastit liked itwhat lacks the sony, that the d2 has ? bassreproduction ?is the EQ of the D2 working as well as the sony ?an answer referring to this would be very important to me !!!!! thanks in advance for your timeps: last question...is it right that if you use sd-cards with the cowon, the acculife is reduced by ~15h ?One more thing you should consider is the fact that the d2 is extremely volume limited if you buy the eu version. The 808 is very powerful on the other hand. 50 % of max. volume will definitely suffice with efficient phones. Keep that in mind. Overall the dix has the better feature set and considering still crappy sonic stage it´s a consideration. Try to get your hands on both units and try them in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Zephir Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 hey zephir !thx for your detailed post !!!the more i consider the pros & cons of the sony and iriver, the d2 is just getting more and more friendly to me...i read many threads about the d2 and most people say that it sound veryanalytical... how is this compared to the sony.. i have no clue if the sony has a warm soundcharakter or an analytical, at leastit liked itwhat lacks the sony, that the d2 has ? bassreproduction ?is the EQ of the D2 working as well as the sony ?an answer referring to this would be very important to me !!!!! thanks in advance for your timeps: last question...is it right that if you use sd-cards with the cowon, the acculife is reduced by ~15h ?Yes, that is very true, the battery life is reduced significantly by using SD card. However, there are rumors that this will be fixed with the next firmware, and let me tell you, cowon releases firmwares regularly to fix problems and add new functions. Flash player (the same one on the clix 2) has been added and note pad function has been added. Equalizer has been modified so that not only you can move each separate band vertical but now you can move them horizontal to cover a wider range of sound. BBE effect is absolutely amazing since it makes the music sound full and rich. you can even turn off equalizer and use BBE alone to get pure sound with no modification. the d2's 78 mw output enables you to plug the player directly into any speaker system and the sound still remains awesome. 16 million color display doesn't hurt either. the cowon is just awesome all around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 exaromar Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 yeeha thx for that post ! alea jacta est...i will get one !!!as sony is to conservative to change their habits (SS,..) and the clix is rattling , the d2 will be now my number one.but to be honest, this little think was the icing on the cake http://shop.cowon.com/products/ishop_produ...Code=1170907829thank again for your help zephir !!!it was a hard decision between those three, most notably becausei wasn't really happy with the D2 in the beginning...as a german byword says, if two were on combat the third is glad...(don't know how the aquivalent translation is...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Zephir Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) yeeha thx for that post ! alea jacta est...i will get one !!!as sony is to conservative to change their habits (SS,..) and the clix is rattling , the d2 will be now my number one.but to be honest, this little think was the icing on the cake http://shop.cowon.com/products/ishop_produ...Code=1170907829thank again for your help zephir !!!it was a hard decision between those three, most notably becausei wasn't really happy with the D2 in the beginning...as a german byword says, if two were on combat the third is glad...(don't know how the aquivalent translation is...)I'm sure you won't be disappointed because I'm not As for the german proverb, I know a similar one over here, but it's a little hard to translate, so we'll leave it at your byword Edited June 5, 2007 by Zephir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exaromar
Hi there,
I'm looking for a new gadget and at the moment, there were 2 that i'm considering:
1) Sony NW-A806
2) Iriver Clix 2
I already had the possibility to test nr.1
Sound was amazing, but the only thing, I noticed was a lack of pressure in the "heavy-demo-track" on the player.
Unfortunatelly I don't know how the track is called. This lack I mentioned is relates to the dynamic of the track
not to the bass-reproduction. Maybe this is what DSP noticed, when he ""compared"" the Cowon F2 with the sony.
Or is this just the character of the demo track ?!
And as i couldn't test the SQ of the Clix 2 i'm a bit undecided
Is there someone who has compared those two gadgets?
Or has any experience with iriver & sony units so far ?
Furthermore i wanted to know what colour you would recommend...
I tend getting a white nw-a806 if it should be the Sony,
but the surface structure is different from that of the black one.
It seems to be rough ?!? And that's the problem... I fear, it could appear
dirty after some time of use, as there is no "protectiv film" like on the black model.
Thanks ahead (is this the right expression ? as you probably can see my english could need some improvement
)
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