Medic911 Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Hey All, Finally got a minidisc and it is awesome. Got the Sony MZ-S1. I did have a question though. Does anyone know if getting a better set of headphones increase the volume at all. The top level 30 is not bad, but when working out, I usually crank it up sometimes. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 well.. generally the sony fontopia headphones that come standard are SHIT! (pardon my language, but i feel strongly about this subject) if ur after some other headphones that are good.. but still want to INCREASE ur volume... try a 'Street Style' with a built in volume control.. i have them.. and they go really, really, really, loud... but i dont suggest putting them on ur ears then... lol but yeah.. generally headphones/earphones with a built in volume control are the best bet for increasing ur volume... good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic911 Posted November 30, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Thanks for the info. I have a set of old Aiwa headphones like the sony's that came with it, except they have volume control on it and did not help that much. Guess I know what to ask for this christmas. Thanks for the help and off to look at the Street Style ones! RW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Medic, MDs (especially Sonys) have pitifully low outputs, so that they can get 200+ hours of battery life. :roll: If I were you, I'd stay away from Street Styles - good for screetching, and that's it. For working out, maybe some Aiwa VX-100s or Sony EX70s would be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Thanks for the info. I have a set of old Aiwa headphones like the sony's that came with it, except they have volume control on it and did not help that much. Guess I know what to ask for this christmas. Thanks for the help and off to look at the Street Style ones! RW Um, the inline volume control that some headphones have does NOT do anything to increase volume! It is simply a rheostat (adjustable resistance) that attenuates the power to the headphones to decrease the volume. In other words if you put the volume to max on a set of headphones that has one of those inline dials then all you are doing is eliminating the resistance and it would be like you hooked up a set without a volume control. But I agree with the fact that the street style phones will probably give you more volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 i'm sorry.. but i gotta say... my street style headphones with an inline volume control actually do increase the volume... i'm not sure how/why... i think its coz the headphones are naturally loud... but yeah... if they wanna say i'm wrong.. well then.. pfft. whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 The Streetstyles would only seem louder if they have a higher sensitivity then the 'phones you were previously using - nothing to do with the inline volume control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 i'm sorry.. but i gotta say... my street style headphones with an inline volume control actually do increase the volume... i'm not sure how/why... i think its coz the headphones are naturally loud... but yeah... if they wanna say i'm wrong.. well then.. pfft. whatever...Like Mystlyler said, it is the headphones that are louder themselves, the volume dial doesn't do anything. I.e. You could buy the same model phones w/o the volume control and get the same sound. (Theoretically, the ones w/o the inline control should be ever so slightly louder because there would be no signal loss going through the volume control, which, even when set to full volume will represent a VERY small additional resistance. But this is negligeble). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 You don't value your hearing, do you Volume 30 will cause damage, yep. I'm wondering whether i'm causing damage at 18/30, on an R37 (quieter than the New Units) myself.. (recording level set at approx -2dB). May I suggest noise-cancelling 'phones (yeah yeah, expensive, but not as bad as losing an ear or two!!) or some canalphones like Sony EX70s or Aiwa HP-VX100s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takman Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 Max volume is gonna hurt your ears - far better to invest in the aforementioned canal buds as they will isolate better and reduce the need to crank the volume up as less sound is leaking out or creeping in. The VX100s are a particularly sensitive pair of earbuds and I do not need to have the volume over half to achieve a good sound on a noisy train using my R900 with its rather weak headphone output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic911 Posted December 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 The thing I have noticed with my MZ-S1 is that the total volume depends on the specific MP3 that I have converted and sent to the MD. Some at level 30 are not loud enough to listen to when working out at a GYM, while others I would go deaf at level 20. I am going to grab a pair of the canal type headphones or some other type of ear bud, anyway the ones that Sony supplied are crap. Thanks for the replies. RW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic911 Posted December 3, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Forgot to Ask something. Which are the best ones headphones to buy as far as the Canal type or sports type. Yall have been using em alot longer than I have and it was not an issue with my old Sony Discman player. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Yanno, my hearing has actually gotten worse over the past few years listening to music and playing in a Jazz Band and stuff...I'm only 17 years old and my mom can hear better than I can. I was reading all your stuff worrying about ear damage and what not...point is, yes, you can damage your ears listening to stuff on full volume (I haven't even used full volume all that much), and taking care of them is definetly something worth the money for a new set of headphones. Noise cancelling headphones/earphones rock. they are somewhat expensive, but they work really really well. If you wanna go all-out with noise-cancelling headphones, I'd recommend the Bose noise-reduction headphones...but they cost A LOT (like $200-$300...) I got a pair of Aiwa noise reduction headphones for $50 at a local Best Buy, and although they aren't that comfy, they make listening to music on an airplane much much easier. I haven't ever used any earbuds that have noise cancelling functions, so I can't vouch for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 I'd suggest the EX70s, "passive" noise cancelling, and durable. If you want all your MP3s the same volume, try normalising them with something like CoolEdit before transferring them to MD via NetMD. Normalise to 98%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 The only way to go is sealed earphones. Look no further than the Eytmotics. Now they even have a cheap pair, the ER-6 (~150 bucks). I have had a pair of the ER-4S for years now and hate it when I have to use anything else. They are superb. For good advice, see www.headphone.com. If you buy your ety's from them, I think you have a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. Don't worry about the price. You will have them for a decade and use them for countless hours of music. They are worth every penny. I also have Sony EX-70's and I don't like them. PS, please do worry about hearing loss. It is serious. You won't know there is damage until it is too late. It is gradual, irreversable and might not be noticable until later in life, but then it is too late. Leland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 The thing I have noticed with my MZ-S1 is that the total volume depends on the specific MP3 that I have converted and sent to the MD. Some at level 30 are not loud enough to listen to when working out at a GYM, while others I would go deaf at level 20. I am going to grab a pair of the canal type headphones or some other type of ear bud, anyway the ones that Sony supplied are crap. Thanks for the replies. RW When recording MP3s isn't there a way to do volume levelling with the NetMD software? I know if I want to do a (realtime) recording via optical output from different music tracks (be it wave, CDA, MP3, etc.), MusicMatch Jukebox has a feature to "volume level" the tracks so you don't get one that is loud and another quite. Don't know if NetMD features this (as I don't have it) but they might want to add such a feature if it is absent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Etys for gym work? Isn't rather impractical, 5ft of cord and all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Theres an even cheaper option, Shure E2c (or something..) US$99 at www.headphone.com There was something going on about Shure ripping off etymotic, though.. According to head-fi.org, the ER6 are sometimes difficult to insert. There's not much choice between canalphones though.. theres EX70, ER6, E2c, ER4P, and HPVX100.. **sigh** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lustral Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Yup the Ex70LP/SP r good on my second pair and i have been using them for almost 3 years now I never need to go over the AVLS limit on my E900 and thats really loud on the Ex70's. The head phones that come with the unit IMO r really loud too , but they lakc any bass reponse and people can hear what u r listening to when cranked up loud. Get some EX70 and check them out. Only £30 if u shop around. Cya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Theres an even cheaper option, Shure E2c (or something..) US$99 at www.headphone.com There was something going on about Shure ripping off etymotic, though.. According to head-fi.org, the ER6 are sometimes difficult to insert. There's not much choice between canalphones though.. theres EX70, ER6, E2c, ER4P, and HPVX100.. **sigh**I read that those Shure ain't worth the packaging they come in...and I'd prefer some ER-4S' anyday of the week. Failing that, the EX70s again - I shall continue to curse the day I sold them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Yeah, but the ER4 are more than double the price of the junior Shures.. Although apparently Shure ripped Etymotic off. Meh. Now if they could just lower their ER6 to $99 and make it have a 60cm rather than 120cm cord.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postpositivist Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 PS, please do worry about hearing loss. It is serious. You won't know there is damage until it is too late. It is gradual, irreversable and might not be noticable until later in life, but then it is too late. LelandPlease take Leland's caution seriously. My first career was in aviation. I've logged about 3,000 hours in airplanes and helicopters. In airplanes I religiously wore foam earplugs (29 dB attenuation) while in helicopters I usually wore both foam ear plugs and a David Clark headset (23 dB attenuation). Even so, now, what sounds like a moderate level on the TV or radio to me sounds a bit loud to others. I have the Sony active noise cancellation earbuds (10 dB attenuation) and like them--the noise cancellation effect is noticeable (even to my ears). Postpositivist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csidinim Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 PS, please do worry about hearing loss. It is serious. You won't know there is damage until it is too late. It is gradual, irreversable and might not be noticable until later in life, but then it is too late. LelandWell, they do have laser eye surgery for vision now. Who knows, they might have something for hearing too in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Even so, I'd rather protect my hearing now, rather than paying for it later it life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Even so, I'd rather protect my hearing now, rather than paying for it later it life.Yeah so would I. Hoping there will be corrective hearing surgery available later on is like taking up smoking hoping there will be something "invented" to clean out your lungs later in life when you are dying from lung cancer/emphezema etc. Just doesn't make sense to me. Protect your hearing now so you can enjoy music for a lifetime--at least that's my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 I'm considering getting those Ety ER20 earplugs for concerts.. And an SPL meter.. and a hearing check.. my MDS-PC1's meter never reaches 9 O'Clock, either. it's stuck at about 7 or so. Even that's a bit loud.. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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