Guest Anonymous Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 First off, I had firmware version 1.100 prior to the hack. 1) Melody Timer. 2) Line Out 3) Microphone sensitivity (not tested because I don't have a microphone, but the menu option comes up). 4) Personal Disc memory (yes, it does work, although I've only tested it on 5 fiscs). My 707 was purchased in Canada if that makes any difference. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpeidar Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 And here`s a step-by-step way to do the hack, just to clarify some stuff: 1: Entering Service Mode: Set the "HOLD" switch on. While holding down the VOL - key like a SHIFT key, enter the key sequence: >>| >>| |<< |<< >>| |<< >>| |<< | | | | i.e. FF FF REW REW FF REW FF REW PAUSE PAUSE Release All Keys 2: The display will alternately display the firmware version in the left display and a screen with all LCD segments lit at about half second intervals. 3: Let`s start changing settings (NOW BE REALLY CAREFUL, DO STRICTLY AS STATED HERE, YOU SAVE CHANGES WHEN YOU PRESS PAUSE!) 4: Press VOL + -- you should see "MANUAL" displayed on the left and "0 00" on the right. 5: Press PLAY -- you should see "Laser" on the left and "0 10" on the right. 6: Press VOL + 5 times -- you should see "F Code" on the left and "0 60" on the right. 7: Press PLAY -- the first 3 digits of the left display should be continuously incrementing. The last 2 digits of the left display are a value in memory that you want to change (it probably reads "A0" for the MZ-N707 and "??" for the MZ-N505, but write this number down!). You should see "0 61" on the right. 8: Press VOL + repeatedly until the last two digits of the left display read "FE" (you can press VOL - if you go past it). 9: Press PAUSE 10: You have now saved the changes you made to the first setting, now, lets get on with hacking the second value 11: Press PLAY -- you should again see incrementing numbers in the first 3 digits of the left display and "0 62" should appear in the right display. The last two digits of the left display are the value you want to change (it probably reads "50" for the MZ-N707 and "??" for the MZ-N505, but write this number down!). 12: Press VOL + repeatedly until this reads "7B" (you can press VOL - if you go past it). 13: Press PAUSE 14: You have now saved the changes to the second setting, and you`re finished with Service Mode 15: Exit Service mode, by removing power plug or battery. 16: Start you MD and check that it works OK ( If it doesn`t work, then try setting the values back to A0 and 50 or whatever your values were 17: Test out the new stuff: M-Timer, Line-out, set playback speed, mic sensitivity Now I know it`s exactly the same as the first post here, but it`s more newbie-friendly with step-by-step, also please note that I don`t take any responsibility whatsoever for this hack. I don`t guarantee my cut`n paste to be error free. Neither do I guarantee for your warranty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpeidar Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 When I think about it, will it work to change a 505 into a 707 simply by entering the original 707 values? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Hey Guys, i can get a MZN707 Net MD or a MZR909, but i just dont know what one to get, i have mostly all my music on my computor and i know that the MZN707 uses the USB Port to get music of the computor. but i dont know how the MZR909 gets its music, i know it doesnt have a USB so how can you get music of the computor? if you can get music of the computor, can you please explane how you do it Thanks, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 use the soundcards analogue out (or optical, if you hav eone) , into the R909s line in, press record on the R909, and play on a music player on your computer (such as winamp). It's a real time transfer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 First off, I had firmware version 1.100 prior to the hack. 1) Melody Timer. 2) Line Out 3) Microphone sensitivity (not tested because I don't have a microphone, but the menu option comes up). 4) Personal Disc memory (yes, it does work, although I've only tested it on 5 fiscs). My 707 was purchased in Canada if that makes any difference. TomTom, are you sure that your hacked 707 can work with Personal Disc Memory? I 'm really concerned about that. BTW,setting play mode on remote seems to be something abnormal after being hacked. Does anyone notice this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Just wondering here - if you used any of the available pc programs to speed up a sound file, then uplaoad it to a 707 and play back at a slower speed - stay with me here... would you be able to get 400 mins in LP4 on 1 80 min disk. If so, how would it sound? Everso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted December 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Just wondering here - if you used any of the available pc programs to speed up a sound file, then uplaoad it to a 707 and play back at a slower speed - stay with me here... would you be able to get 400 mins in LP4 on 1 80 min disk. If so, how would it sound? Eversonow... just assuming.. that you did slow it down on PC i would say that you could play back at a slower speed and get a longer time.. i havent done any calculations.. so i'm not sure what time you could get... but it would be possible.. i'm not sure how it might sound.. it could be a little to fast or a little too slow.. but if u get it working.. post here again and let us all know how it went Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_3TJ Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 If you don't want the Katanka Input, enter for item 061 'FC' instead of 'FE'. In the other "hack"-thread it is mentioned to enter 'FD" instead of 'FE'. Although this will work, it will change the keypad's functions(so don't do that, like I have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_3TJ Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Ok, I have edited my post, because my discovery was actually not an discovery. Anyway I will just post here how to revert back to your original keylayout. When enabling F1 for the n707, for example when entering for item 061 'FD' in service mode, the keypad changes like this: play: vol + stop: vol - prev: prev and play next: next and play group: group (but is now the shift button!) end search : stop vol +: end search vol -: end search enter is now gone, but you can use menu instead of enter. The prev and next, now including play, won't interfere when going back to your original settings, because: [*] when entering the service mode sequence, pressing play does nothing [*] in service mode pressing prev and next does nothing So to revert back do the following: [*] enter the service mode sequence but now you use group as the shift button [*] do the same thing as before in service mode but while navigate through the menus use next instead of play [*] enter at item 061 'FE' for katanka support or 'FC' without it [*] press pause, remove power source and relax Disclaimer: Proceed at your own risk. I am not responsible for any damage caused by following these instructions, however it should be safe when executing them properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Huh? On my R37, in manual record mode I can change the mic levels.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 I mentioned a few posts ago I tried speeding up a MP3 then playing it back in slow speed. It seems to works fine. A little slower but fine. I should point out however that I am using this for audio books which are not very demanding on qualiry but are or run time. Everso P.S this gives 400 mins on a 80 min disc at LP4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 worked fine on my 505! pretty cool, pretty cool indeed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_3TJ Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 When enabling F1 only for the n707, the keypad changes. For the r505 and r707 F1 and F2 does nothing. So maybe for another model (the 909 or n1 for example) changes the keypad for that model and only for that model too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 I tried out the hack and everything listed was enabled. I just did it on my brand new MZ-N707l that I just bought and one downside to it was that the remote stopped working. I put the original values back in and now it's back to the way it was at the starting. Anyone have the same problem? The remote on the 707s sold in Canada don't have the lcd, so I was wondering whether that's the reason why it didn't work because if it is maybe I should go out and get one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 whats F1?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeproductions Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 this hack is amazing...with my remote from my mzr55, i can acces all the features...*thums up* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 i can acces all the features...*thums up*even speed control?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeproductions Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 even speed control??YUP YUP...even speed control...although i find it very useless...i played with it for a bit and that was it for that feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 its fun though.. when ur friend is listening... u change the speed.. and they get freaked out.. then they want an MD just like it.. hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 I just tried the hack again and this time the remote works. I removed the remote this time before doing the hack so that may have done the trick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Ok, I did the hack on my N505, and I want to know if it's possible to change the "sound quality" or access to Bass and treeble 8 steps menu without a remote, Do I need to change other values in service mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplea Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 My new N707 is now hacked, whacked, and works like a charm (haven't tried all the features yet). BTW, the alarm melodies is different depending on which of the alarms you choose. The first is Beethoven, the others I haven't really figured out yet UPDATE: The melodies are as follows: 1. Beethoven - Something (can't remember the title) 2. Somewhere over the rainbow 3. Twinkle twinkle little star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Yep. I was reading the n707's user manual, the menu I wanna have on my n505 is called "Sound-set", in my n505 is hidden or does'nt exists, perhaps it could be activated in service mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Hi again! If you compare the original values from 707 in 061 and 062 in service mode AND the map (of all possible values) posted by SAM in "wild 500/700 hack" forum, you'll discover that the Netminidisc series have OTHER map and other values (following the sam's map and comparing with the "A0" and "50" original settings in mz-n707 (61 and 62) the unit couldn't support lp modes!) ...So .. does anyone have the map for the N series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Alright everyone. I tried the hack on 707 with my remote from MZ-R55 and the speed works. The only problem is that the LCD from the remote would stop showing after a few seconds of use. Does anyone know here why? I have my on theory on this issue. Maybe the remote doesn't get enough power from the unit? I think that's what I'm thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeproductions Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Alright everyone. I tried the hack on 707 with my remote from MZ-R55 and the speed works. The only problem is that the LCD from the remote would stop showing after a few seconds of use. Does anyone know here why? I have my on theory on this issue. Maybe the remote doesn't get enough power from the unit? I think that's what I'm thinking of. i have the same unit and same remote...works fine for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerMonkey Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Alright everyone. I tried the hack on 707 with my remote from MZ-R55 and the speed works. The only problem is that the LCD from the remote would stop showing after a few seconds of use. Does anyone know here why? I have my on theory on this issue. Maybe the remote doesn't get enough power from the unit? I think that's what I'm thinking of.I have a 505 and the same remote. It works if you are using the AC adapter. Otherwise I have the same problem as you. Have you found a way to access the bass and treble adjustment? I don't think it's possible without a remote with the sound button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I don't 505 has the ability to do the bass and treble setting. But with 707 it works just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I have a n505 too, 707 doesn't need a remote control to adjust treeble and bass, I think n505 could have that feature modifing some values in service mode (eeprom data). So... It could be interesating have a map with all n707's EEPROM DATA values to compare it with 505's ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Chalk up another successful service menu mod. Got it working first time, no problems. stock US remote (no LCD) still functions normally. Scouring the internet now for information on *other* service menu mods. I noticed a ton of categories that seem like changing them might be fun. Will post if found. -Infidel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 I have the Sony MZ-N505 with the hack successfully installed. Can anyone confirm if speed control and the 8 step treble/bass settings can be done with the RM-MC11EL or does it only work with the RM-MC12ELK? (I really don't care about Japanese text support.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 yes, it works with both the remotes.. i have the MC11EL and it works fine with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplea Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 I have a 505 and the same remote. It works if you are using the AC adapter. Otherwise I have the same problem as you. Have you found a way to access the bass and treble adjustment? I don't think it's possible without a remote with the sound button.THANKS MAN! I've been trying to figure out how to make my RM-MZ35 remote work fully with my N707, and with the AC plugged, it does! I didn't think of trying that before. Now I'll just think of a way to make it work constantly. Maybe a battery pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Thanks Fella's, I got my MZ-N505 working fine and dandy with the hack, I think.. Nothing's coming out of the line-out now, doesn't matter whether I have the Au Out option set to Line or Hphone - should there be noise? (However, sounds seems better now that I've set it to Hphone..) I have the P.D.M. Option on my menu now - If I knew exactly what it's for/how to use it, I can tell y'all whether it works or not. I was a little anxious about breaking my new baby at first, but now I'm glad I went with it - it's always good to beat the system, eh? Thanks, Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snathanb Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 I have a stock US unit, no remote. I notice that I change the melodie, sort of. If I turn the Melodie Timer on, with headphones plugged in, I get Beethoven, ode to Joy If I turn the Melodie Timer on, with headphones unplugged, I get Twinkle-Twinkle little star... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 interesting... sounds like a good way to change melody.. the 3rd one is just constant beeping.. but how do u ge to the menu to change timer?/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snathanb Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 After having applied the hack, the timer menu is right after R-Mode, It says MTimer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darK (aka Tharaka) Posted January 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 oh ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_ Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 I've got a Canadian N707 with ver 1.3 and the hack worked. * MTimer * Line Out * Personal Settings But I'm not sure about the mic sensitivity... I don't have a mic to try a recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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