The_Stamp Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 hmm... dude...u gotta learn to b calm..i do understand what ur saying bout the continous questions to which we only have opiniated answers 2 ..it's freeom of speech...ne wayz.. for those who've bought their Nh600 tell me does the package include a blank HI MD or if not have ne one heard of the other units coming with one?yes, theres one included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowEnd Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I've ordered a set of Core Sound Low Cost Binaural mics from http://www.core-sound.com/lcmics.html in anticipation of the arrival of my MZ-NH1. Below is a comment concerning these mics and I'm wondering if anyone can confirm if the MZ-NH1 will have the "Bias Voltage" they describe? !! CORE SOUND'S COMMENT !! "The Low Cost microphones require a bias voltage (also called "plug-in power") of between 1.5 and 10 Volts DC, supplied by the recorder or mixing panel via the same cable that carries the audio signal. All current digital and analog recorders supply bias voltage." I tried using these mics plugged into an analog video camera and could get no sound and I wondered if this could be the issue. I then plugged the mic into my "Mic In" on my computer soundcard and was able to pick up some sound, even though the sound quality was terrible. I don't think this test represents the sound quality of these mics so I'm anxious to try them recording live music into my HI-MD unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 @Gattuso: The CD was possibly copyprotected. In addition to preventing the ripping of the CD itself, Creative has the habit of 'policing' their customers. And in this case, the activated 'NoCopy'bit of the CD leads to this result. Using different software for ripping usually solves that problem. @LowEnd: The camera has no DC-voltage on the microphone connector, that's the reason for no sound. The Mic-in of a soundcard is quite different to that of an MD, which gives crappy sound in return. You need a few additional parts to get clean sound out of that. The Mic-in of a MD-recorder is specially designed for electret microphones, so that the usual two-wire capsules can be connected directly. Yes, the few additional parts I mentioned above are already included - Result: the mic works. That is also the reason, why it says 'Plug-in power' next to the Mic-input... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowEnd Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Thanks JadeClaw! I have a friend who used these same mic's with his MD recorder and they did a great job recording some live shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 ACK! the release date for Hi-MD is today, but futureshop and SOny Store are saying that that is the release date from sony.ca! sony store will get the shipment NEXT WEEK! I AM FALLING APART! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 hmm......must b in stores..so next week all the Models will be out ur saying..cuz when i check out the sites all i'm seeing is the NH600 + where did u hear that the release date is today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 the release for 600 for canada is today. but nobody has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Release date is one thing, physical delivery is another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 very true...so i wonder when Sony will have them in Australia...they say July but i'm thinking mid-July before they get shipped out...(kinda like what happened with my DV cam i pre-ordered from them...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Question: r the Hi MD units gonna b using the same cable as NetMDs? i'm just curious cuz i'm thinking that there must b a difference seeing that the units will be powered via usb this time..but it could just be some change in the hardware of the units..but for those who have their NH600 if u got the cable for the NET MD have u tried using it on the HI MD unit yet? Does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 It will be a different cable for some of the units, but it seems like the NH600 uses the same cable as previous NetMD models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gattuso Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Will the new hi-md units be compatible with existing car adaptor kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Yes, as the only thing the Car Adapter kits needed was a headphone out - all Hi-MD units certainly have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok1 Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 I have a Sony MD player I bought last year. Frustrated with the limited amount of music I can put on a standard MD, I was about to buy an MP3 player when I heard about the H-MD. My question is; Will my current Mini Disc player play the new, higher-capacity disks? If not, I am on the way to buying a new IPod or similar. Thanks M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alieninhead Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 *scratches forehead* Yes, the more you post the same question the sooner a reply comes... ~a.i.h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 bankok1 said Will my current Mini Disc player play the new, higher-capacity disks? hmm... no offence but can a mule have off springs? what ever ur answer to that question is that's the exact answer to ur own question trust me :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbetsho Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 wth!? No, your MiniDisc player will not play the new Hi-MD discs. end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted May 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Yes, please do not post the same question five times in seperate places on the forum. Anyway, welcome aboard. :happy: p.s. Have you considered "upgrading" to a newer Hi-MD unit so you can use the Hi-MD discs and reformatted MD discs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolice Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 I'm deciding wether to choose the MZ-NH900 or the MZ-NH1. Can anybody compare the remote of the two. Also about the external AA batery case of the 900: After you put the battery in the case, does the case go into the unit or is it pluged to the side? (probably a stupid question!) Is there any other reason the nh1 is $100 more expensive other than the coolness factor ?! thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Well, I suppose, that the AA-case is connected via cable, as I didn't see a screw-hole to affix the case on the photos. The coolness-factor is the reason for the price. The NH1 is very thin, and that drives the price up. The NH900 seems to me the more practical one... Other differences(NH1): Time-Date stamp, three-line remote and a one-line display on the unit. The NH900 has a one line remote and a three line display on the unit itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 hmm....well let me c what i can tell u...i don't have either remotes in my hand but from what i can c the NH1 remote have a 3 line display..showing all the information that the NH900 unit's display shows..uhhh.....that i believe would include all editing capabilities... that remote might only work on that unit n that's bout the only comparison i can give..as to the price factor 1. they use different types of batteries.. 2. the NH1 was designed/developed to cost more by all means 3. it has a usb connectivity in the cradle 4. time stamp there's a lil comparisson on this page: http://minidisc.org/himd_table.html (can some1 give him other references cuz none ain't coming to mind right now) as for the battery no it doesn't go into the unit it is connected at the bottom of the unit... remember the battery is just an alternative..the unit wasn't manufactured to use AA batteries internally other wise there wouldn't b an option to connect the ext battery.. Welcome to the Forums :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 3. The cradle has no USB, charging only... Had been changed and there is a thread about this, but I'm too lazy to look it up now. *Yawns* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 wait u talking bout the NH1? u serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gattuso Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 -As the 900 is the only hi-md player to have a jog dial on the unit itself, what exactly do the dials on the lower models do? -I'm not entirely familiar with external battery cases (although one thread shows a picture on an older MD model), but just to confirm is that what the black base thing at the bottom of the unit in your product pages is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gattuso Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Sorry scrap that second question, it clearly isn't. Could anyone provide a link that shows a decent quality picture of what the external battery pack looks like when attached to (any) MD unit; I'm having trouble finding one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 wait u talking bout the NH1? u serious?Yes, I am. See here: http://forums.minidisc.org/viewtopic.php?t=4897 To me, taking the USB-Connection out of the stand was a braindead decision. They need the plug on the cable anyway, they have the suitable socket as well ( one is in the main unit ), so, all is needed is an additional hole in the stand and a few wires and solder joints. Sometimes, it seems that people get paid for *NOT* thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 wow ..i read something earlier through some link i found on minidisc.org..the translated page.. well what i was reading sounded all bogus so i just said stupes n went on..n i was thinking of it n as u said eh....it's like they're paying ppl to "NOT" think..that's all i have to say for this crap..i'm soo glad i'm not getting a NH1 all due to me being on shaky grounds with sony n MD this year..i don't know what they have up their sleeves...i feel like i'll b spending tons of cash on the NH1 n then they do some dumbs stuff next year..ne who...i'm loosing my cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 -As the 900 is the only hi-md player to have a jog dial on the unit itself, what exactly do the dials on the lower models do? -I'm not entirely familiar with external battery cases (although one thread shows a picture on an older MD model), but just to confirm is that what the black base thing at the bottom of the unit in your product pages is?jog dial: all models have the jog dial. external batt case: yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Now that Hi-MD has PCM, the anti-shock memory should be quite larger to be at a decent time ahead. I wonder if they upgraded the anti-shock memory? If they did indeed upgrade the anti-shock memory to be more suitable for PCM, the fact that the MD will support bitrates from outrageously low to very high, i think it would be wise if they included an option to chose how much memory to use, or an option that would scale down the anti-shock memory when you use the lower bitrates to save on battery life. Anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 ANITSHOCK???? ...... no my friend it's G-Protection uhh.. it's a special type of anti shock so to speak..doesn't have much to do with saving stuff in memory n what not..mostly dependant on the lens reading ahead n crap like that but i can't remember where i learned it all..sorry but i believe it's somewhere on Minidisc.org.. can some1 help him out with a link.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Great question, Spare. Yes, but at the higher bitrates the G-Protection/anti-shock/etc may not be as solid as we're accustomed to. There is little documentation on this, actually. What I suggest is you PM the people who have a Hi-MD unit [Damage, Ryzir, and a few others] and ask them to conduct tests and see what occurs, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doosmac Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 anyone know if 900 is plastic like 600? I just got 600 and preordered 900.....I have to say 600 feel cheap for $200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 The NH900 is made of aluminum and plastic. It's about 7g heavier than the NH600, but I'm sure overall it'll feel like it has a better construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 ANITSHOCK???? ...... no my friend it's G-Protection uhh.. it's a special type of anti shock so to speak..doesn't have much to do with saving stuff in memory n what not..mostly dependant on the lens reading ahead n crap likeYes, you are right, i've also read about G-Protection being the 3 somethings about the laser recovering faster or stuff. But every minidisc HAS anti-shock memory, due to the fact that the music is compressed and it needs decoding, so the information has to be loaded into ram. I think with the old MDs it was mostly 16meg. The 16 meg used to give a stated 40 seconds of anti-shock protection for SP. I don't know what the bitrate of PCM is but if they keep the 16meg, it's gonna be pretty damn short anti-shock protection. EDIT: Oh, and other companies than sony (sharp, panasonic, kenwood, aiwa, etc) don't have G-protection, or at least they don't say they have. Do they have something similar but they just don't say? Are sony units the only ones with these, making them more skip free than the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 well i doubt it..cuz the G-Protection is something of Sony...n having tested G-Protection against Anti Shock i'd say it's a lot different...with CD players atleast.. G-Protection units can handle a lot more vertical shocks than Anti Shock enabled units and that's how u really test skip protection for devices as such..most devices can handly most horizontal or circular or ne kinna other shaking motion it gets.. like Panasonics CD players or probably second to G-Protection but the big difference is in the Vertical shocks...with the G-Protection some way some how the lens never go searching for it's last position it just keeps it..n when the memory's out it just keeps on reading..where as with Anti-Shock the lens go searching back n forth then it assumes it's center position n continue reading the disc.. ( i did those tests with a panasonic 48 esp and an aiwa EASP 48 Sec against a Sony dics man with 1st Generation G-Protection :smile: i don't remember the model numbers just how they look it's been since in 2001 i had those units...but gave them all away.haha didn't have use for them ) and yeah as yall said i do think that Minidisc stores stuff in memory.. seeing that when u load a MD the disc completely stops..while playing..it does i know by 1st listening to the unit n by opening the unit like my R500 n watch the disc stop ..so yeah it's gonna b short i'd believe with PCM but when i get my NH900 i'll do some tests.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesurgeon Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I've got a couple of questions regarding the HI-MD 1. If I record a 'jam' session can I transfer via usb to the PC and have a music file that is convertable to other formats? If no, then how do I get this file into some useable format without having to use analogue transfer? 3. I hear that the HI-MD has software for burning to a CD. Is this is true? Does this mean we can record digitally, transfer via to pc then burn to CD?. sorry if these are lame questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 1. we won't know until the 800 comes out, when inputs are available. some ppl are claiming you can export, others are saying your can't. right now its a toss up. 2. if not, then you could record it via your sound card. the new hi-md enables play through usb (thourhg your computer speakers). you can set your sound card to record the output (if you have a soundcard that supports it, like the audigy 2 (i have that )). 3. IceedTea's installer lets anyone burn atrac files to cd. Hey i never thought of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesurgeon Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Thanks for the help.... Does the installer covert from atrac to a normal CD audio files when burning to a CD? Is there anything stopping me from copying these CD audio files back onto PC so I can covert to other formats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 i HAVE successfully burnt atrac format music into uncompressed CD format. (i was curious too), but i never tried ripping it again. i am about 70% sure you could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriousphd Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hey there, I've been lurking and reading and waiting... :laugh: I bought a used N505 TypeR several months ago and I've only just really started enjoying it. So as I was ordering more discs I started readling about the Hi-MD. Well I've been contemplating a mini-ipod for the data storage aspect, but the idea of a tiny CF harddrive worried me with shock and data corruption. Plus in Apple fashion it's completely sealed and basically all or nothing. Anyway, the only 2 MD that have the features and price point are the MZ-NH800 and MZ-NH900. The 800 is listed as not having a lineout which is a feature I think is needed on a device of this price. So for slightly more the 900 looks good but I have some questions for the people that have seen them: 1. Does the 900 have an FM/weather tuner? Seller info is mixed on this, but the Sony press release indicates a digital tuner. 2. The 900 takes an internal NiMH AA too? 3. Is the data transfer to the unit really as slow as stated here (500M = 15 minutes!) or do the higher models have a higher transfer? 4. Is there anyone else in the MD game now besides Sony (for North America)? Now for the preorder :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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