scotthollywood Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 If my memory serves me correctly, I think Sony dabbled in the idea using mini-disc for a video recording media...Probably 4 or 5 years ago. I wonder with the invention of Hi-MD, Sony will take another crack at it??? :wink: :happy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 yeh probably...depending on how much the unit and blanks cost will probably determine how successful (or unsuccessful) the unit is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 well it's hard to say..cuz i mean Sony Handicams use magic gate mem sticks..which we all know cost n arm n leg compared to MDs if there's a transition it will not b ne time soon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Well, Sony did have a MD camera mockup didn't they? /me thinks it'd be absolutely awesome to have a MD camera with a fairly quick write speed. That'd be enough for me to ditch my Powershot and go with the MD camera. As a side note, MD can keep up playing video files, and I'd assume it could probably keep up recording video files as well. It's just Sony and their wanting such a unit in the market or not that'll influence things to come. I'd think it would be somewhat plausible, since HiMDs do have DRM abilities built it, I suppose. :-| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alieninhead Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 That'd be awesome. It's probably not something they'd be afraid to do, since they're known for keeping around formats not-so-popular (like MicroMV camcorders). I'd love to see a MD video recorder. I'm not sure if the Sony Handicams can support writing to the memory sticks as far as videos go (obviously they write w/photos, and I have seen some Samsungs that can write to the memory stick using Mpeg4) but even if they did you'd have to buy a big stick to do long recording, and if it's Mpeg4 it's crap quality. I think Panasonic's D-Snap which comes with a 512MB SD can go 20minutes or so on MPeg2 video. A gig MD w/Mpeg2 recording would therefore be something like 40 mins! Sounds like fun. ~a.i.h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8 Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 I've recently been using a MZ-N10 to record sound along with silent 8mm movie film.. sync on PC after i record through the sound card in real time. my question is, other than speedy USB upload, and more recording time on discs, will the HI-MD give me better quality recordings as files on my computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alieninhead Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Yes...you'll be able to record with lossless compression using the PCM standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eloquence Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Sony did do a camcorder that used MD-type media - it wasn't the traditional MD format, though, but a 2/3GB-ish capacity disc. It would be interesting to see Hi-MD being used for MPEG-2 recording, because it would be an improvement over the DVD-recording camcorders, although it would be a tough sell against the Mini-DV or Micro-MV camcorders - since you're talking a smaller capacity and larger physical size. Personally I don't think that's a starter, especially as write speeds may be too slow. What I would like to see is MPEG-4 encoding and video playback. This could potentially give a long enough playback time. It would not have a problem with write speeds, and would give maybe 2 hours on a single disc. Alternatively, just taking an AV-input and encoding that, and you could then record from TV, etc, or record from a camcorder, and have a portable media player unit, with easy transfer onto a hard drive, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 ...and if it's Mpeg4 it's crap quality. ..I don't know what you're basing this on, but MPEG4 video can outdo MPEG2 by leaps and bounds. By my experience [from encoding videos] you should be able to get approximately twice the time with roughly the same quality in the same amount of space. Still, most DV units don't use plain MPEG2 or MPEG4, since neither are frame-accurate for editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Sony did do a camcorder that used MD-type media - it wasn't the traditional MD format, though, but a 2/3GB-ish capacity disc. The MD HandyCam used a 650MB MiniDisc called MD-VIEW. I've seen them occasionally on websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 aeriyn : yup that's right, but the MD HandyCam never really took off in other places outside of Japan i don't think...and it never really had the interests of the public so it got scrapped a while back? (not too sure about this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 AFAIK it never went beyond demonstrator status and never reached production level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 although it would be a tough sell against the Mini-DV or Micro-MV camcorders - since you're talking a smaller capacity and larger physical sizeThe advantage that an MD-camcorder would have over Mini-DV or other digital tapes (much like MD over DAT) is that it's not linear so you can more easely edit the content directly on the disc. I suppose an option to defragment the disc from time to time would be good too. If writting speed is a limitation, i think a MD digital camera for only still shots would still be a good product. An MD is just as good (size wise) as an old 35mm and a lot bigger. People nowadays have to transfer their photos to the computer and then burn them to CD, you wont need to do that if you can just cheaply stack up a bunch of MDs full of pictures. And MDs last longer than those CDs that decay after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekdroid Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 MD for video cameras? I doubt it. Seems too much of an audio format to me, given its limitations. They do have XDCAM pro camcorders and Professional Disc for Data (PDD) for enterprise backup, and Blu-Ray for (apparently) everything else. All seem to be using the new-gen 23-50GB cartridges: XDCAM linkage: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/mark...17.html?m=10017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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