Taped A Show From The Board With My Mz-nh1.

[emptyzero]

It auto-tracked the recording!

All of the audience taping I do, I tape the show as one file. I was really bummed that when taping from a soundboard a couple fridays ago the show was recorded into several different tracks, most tracks containing multiple songs. Now there are 2 second gaps that will make mixing it down with the Scheops audience source not impossible but at least noticeable

I never switch the setting/mode, I didn't even find a setting to switch from recording 1 track to auto-tracking. I remember a thread in the Hi-MD forum that talked about what caused this auto-tracking but after multiple searches I just can't find it. Does anyone know what causes this auto-tracking and how it can be prevented? A friend commented that the unit must have sensed silence from the board feed and decided to make a new track.

[mrsoul]

It's true. On the Sony MDs when recording from a line input, you will get a new track if there is more than 2 seconds of silence. It's a PIA if you ask me. I think I read a post here that states the same if the source is optical as well. This does NOT happen with mic inputs.

[dex Otaku]

There's no way to prevent it when using the line-in. I pretty much ignore the trackmarks, and after uploading to SS I just combine all of them for export and editing.

[1kyle]

There's no way to prevent it when using the line-in.  I pretty much ignore the trackmarks, and after uploading to SS I just combine all of them for export and editing.

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It's a pain but if you have Nero and a decent sound card why not create a WAV file (Real time unfortunately) --You'll get a decent recording copy if you set WAV as the recording source then edit with Nero WAVE editor --it's a great WAV editor BTW (or use one of your choice).

You can then put trackmarks wherever you want, edit out gaps etc etc.

Then using NERO's DRIVE IMAGE --included with the Nero software burn a "Virtual CD" --and using this use MD simple Burner to re-burn to your MD again.

Note you don't have to burn a "Physical CD" or an actual Disk" and this Virtual Disk can be created very quickly indeed.

I'm not a fan of SS --especially as I use 5 or 6 different computers and the hassle of remembering which computer which piece of music was originally stored on is much to much to bother with.

The only thing I use SS for is for playing a Minidisc on the compuyer or creating a WAV file (in real time) when I'm playing a Disc.

My big bugbear with all this SS stuff is that if I've made MY OWN MUSIC why shouldn't I be able to store it, access it or manipulate it in anyway I choose on ANY OR ALL OF MY COMPUTERS.

I'm sure a lot of Pro and semi pro musicians have more than 1 computer as well.

Edited January 20, 2005 by 1kyle

[aamd]

You could also remove the track marks before uploading.

[mrsoul]

There's no way to prevent it when using the line-in.  I pretty much ignore the trackmarks, and after uploading to SS I just combine all of them for export and editing.

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Dex-

I can never get SS to combine my OMG tracks after I upload. It gives me some excuse about they have already been uploaded. So, am I to understand that you can combine tracks that you have uploaded in SS?

[dex Otaku]

I can never get SS to combine my OMG tracks after I upload.  It gives me some excuse about they have already been uploaded.  So, am I to understand that you can combine tracks that you have uploaded in SS?

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This frustrated me for quite a while too, as it is not well documented.

First of all, you can split/combine tracks right on the unit, assuming you have the patience to do so [i do not; I have never used a single editing feature on an MD or HiMD, as I viewed it as a complete waste of time, fiddling wtih those tiny keys].

You can also split/combine uploaded tracks in the SS library, yes. BUT..

You must delete the tracks from the original source disc before they can be edited in any way within SS.

That may not sound helpful or [especially] safe, but in all honesty - I do basically the same with HiMD as I've ever done with any recording format:

1) make my recording

2) bring it home

3) back it up to another format or to the computer

4) make the "best copy possible" [i.e. actually use SS's upload feature]

5) completely erase the original disc

6) back up the original files to DVD-R after converting to WAV and then to FLAC

7) do my editing, write my CDs, &c.

I guess the key to my philosophy is that MD and HiMD blanks are at a premium for me; they're hard to find at reasonable prices around here [HiMD blanks not being available at all], and in all honesty I simply don't have the money to spend mail-ordering blanks. [Nor do I have a check book, any credit cards, any access to paypal or such, or bank cards that are usable online - mainly because I simply have no money, period.]

Becaues I have to always re-use the blanks, that means that the medium is basically only a temporary container to me.

I do not -keep- anything on MD or HiMD.

In end, what this means to me is that when it comes to the stage of having made my realtime backup and then [hopefully successfully] transferred the recording to the puter using SS - meaning I already have two known good copies [as I do test them] on the puter, I don't hesitate even for a second over erasing the original disc.

Once the original disc is erased [or, more specifically, the tracks you want to edit are erased] SS releases them in its library so you can split/combine them.

I occasionally do use this; for long recordings I usually use the auto time mark function [set to 5 or 6 minutes] so that if SS botches the upload I'm only missing a smallish chunk that I can pull out of the realtime backup quite easily.

Once the 6-minutes chunks are in the SS library, I combine them based on what folder they were in, making for complete sections of the recording as single tracks.

[hanz0]

this is a little off-topic, but would you guys recommend hitting the track mark button when recording a concert. this is what i intend to do after songs are finished. would it be better to make the tracks marks after the whole recording?

[dex Otaku]

It depends on how you do your editing. If you want to keep the recording on the original disc, then yes, mark tracks right on it. If not, the track marks are pretty much incidental - the times I've used marking during a recording, I almost always end up merging all the tracks and marking them in my editor later anyway.

[emptyzero]

Thank you all for the great replies!

[mrsoul]

Thanks for the info Dex, I will try that trick the next go-round. I ususally just line out to my RCA inputs on the Creative Audigy and make a analog backup if it's really important. If there were other tapers there or whatever, I don't make a backup before I upload anymore since SS 2.3 has proved to be stable and the 1 large PCM file problem has been avoided.

[emptyzero]

Anyone know what's up with SonicStage only playing one of the tracks at a time? Plays one track and stops, total recorder then records slience instead of going into the next track.