alrose312 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Hello,My first post here. Please be gentle.I just purchased a RH910 and I realized that I have two options when uploading vinyl recordings to WAV on SS: 1) Record vinyl to the unit via the line-in and follow standard SS procedure or, 2)record vinyl to the unit via the optical-in and go through the hassle of downloading HIMDRENDERER.My question is: which one would you choose? I personally would rather record via the optical-in because it's a higher fidelity recording - BUT, I'm also not very interested in having to incorporate a 3rd party application to work with SS...So, which one would you choose...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasraden Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) Hello,My first post here. Please be gentle.I just purchased a RH910 and I realized that I have two options when uploading vinyl recordings to WAV on SS: 1) Record vinyl to the unit via the line-in and follow standard SS procedure or, 2)record vinyl to the unit via the optical-in and go through the hassle of downloading HIMDRENDERER.My question is: which one would you choose? I personally would rather record via the optical-in because it's a higher fidelity recording - BUT, I'm also not very interested in having to incorporate a 3rd party application to work with SS...So, which one would you choose...?The preamp used for the vinyl player itself will probably generate more S/N noise than the noticeable difference between recording by line or by optical input on the MD making the practical method remaining. I record vinyl LP's by simply connecting my MD's line inputs to my preamplifiers line outputs. Then I transfer the resulting HI-SP file within Sonicstage as a big chunk and edit the resulting WAV file in Soundforge by removing clicks and cracks and all that. I cant hear any difference between WAV or HI-SP. Probably because a vinyl source itself is usually not an optimal source of sonically perfect sound. Edited October 26, 2005 by thomasraden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) I cant hear any difference between WAV or HI-SP. Probably because a vinyl source itself is not an optimal source of sonically perfect sound.Some fanatics might disagree. Digital isn't perfect either but at 44.1/16 close enough for me. I wouldn't bother with an optical recording either but use pcm at least, especially if you plan to edit further. The internal ADC satisfies my sonic quality demands. Edited October 26, 2005 by greenmachine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasraden Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) Some fanatics might disagree. Digital isn't perfect either but at 44.1/16 close enough for me.I agree regarding the fanatics. But most of us normal people do own these cheap normal vinyl players. My dream would be that incredibly expensive japanese vinyl laser turntable player by ELP. But that is another issue.http://www.elpj.com/purchase/ Edited October 26, 2005 by thomasraden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypeters Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Vinyl doesn't have that great frequency range, but a HQ pressing using non-recycled vinyl, played on a highend vinyl player has a higher "apparent resolution" than the meager 16 bits of the CD format (apparent since vinyl isn't digitized and you can't count bits).When it comes to digitizing vinyl I would bypass (Hi-)MD altogether, execpt for as the end format. Buy one of Creative's new X-Fi card with built-in phono pre-amp and digitize it to your HD. Then you can de.noise/de-click if necessary and finally download it to Hi-MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasraden Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) Vinyl doesn't have that great frequency range, but a HQ pressing using non-recycled vinyl, played on a highend vinyl player has a higher "apparent resolution" than the meager 16 bits of the CD format (apparent since vinyl isn't digitized and you can't count bits).When it comes to digitizing vinyl I would bypass (Hi-)MD altogether, execpt for as the end format. Buy one of Creative's new X-Fi card with built-in phono pre-amp and digitize it to your HD. Then you can de.noise/de-click if necessary and finally download it to Hi-MD.I did not know Creative had a card with a real vinyl phono RIAA pre amp. Can you point me to a link to that specific card? Edited October 26, 2005 by thomasraden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Um, how can you get your analog vinyl to output digital optical? Unless your preamp or amp is converting the signal to digital, this is not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alrose312 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Oh - I forgot to mention that my turntable has an SPDIF digital-out that I can hook up directly to my MD's optical in. This is what makes me want to upload digitally - but I guess I'll opt for the more prctical method of using the line-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veezhun Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 from what i have used, himdrenderer is extremely easy to use. more so than sonic stage.. lots of options. you can convert to flac/ogg/mp3 directly.. convert digital recordings too.its a very good piece of software that is a must for any HI Md user.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alrose312 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Thanks. I will look into himdrenderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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