joplin Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 HiI currently have an Mz-Nh1 and it is very easy for me to convince myself that the new product is so much better(Rh1) In some cases it really is superior in other cases that is not the truth.I welcome your thoughts on these two models.ThanksGreg Joplin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamewing Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) HiI currently have an Mz-Nh1 and it is very easy for me to convince myself that the new product is so much better(Rh1) In some cases it really is superior in other cases that is not the truth.I welcome your thoughts on these two models.ThanksGreg Joplin Right off the bat, the RH1 wins if you want legacy uploads. The up and downloads are also faster with the RH1, compared to the NH1. It also has a mini-usb jack on the unit. The battery also charges via USB (nice). The RH1 does a good job with mp3s (if that is your bag, baby). The RH1 CANNOT display track names on the display, but only on the remote. The RH1 has nifty rubber feet on the bottom, giving it the appearance of a tiny deck-like unit.The NH1 has a nice LCD display on the unit and feels a bit sturdier in my opinion. It needs a proprietary cable for transfer versus a standard mini-usb cable. The NH1 won't charge via USB and instead needs the cradle. NH1 shows how much time til fully charged. I haven't been able to get my RH1 to do that yet, but then again, I have only charged via USB and not from the wall. The button placement on the NH1 seems better and it can 100% support the 3-line remote, while the RH1 is a bit more limited...someone stated earlier about 90%.My 2 cents worth. Others here are a great deal more elequent and knowledgeable than I.JoeOh!!! I just noticed that the RH1 doesn't have the blue HiMD badge on it anywhere. Edited June 30, 2006 by lamewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) I think it's hard to tell for most people --you have to use a really good set of phones and ensure your SOURCE was created at good quality such as 352 - certainly no lower than 256.However as others have pointed out the USB, legacy uploads etc makes the RH1 more than a competitor for the NH1.Incidentally the remote supplied with the RH1 is pretty useless. Stick with the RM-MC40ELK supplied with the NH1. Works fine on the RH1. The battery is also the same on both models so unless you need the NH1 keep it as a backup machine and use the battery as a spare for your RH1.Bothe models feature the HD digital amp so that should minimize sound quality differences.If you are "In to" MP3's then you'll have to use the RH1.BTW charging the RH1 "From the Wall" rather than via a computer DOES display time left for charging -- when battery is empty it shows 60 min , reducing each minute until battery is charged. Display then goes out.Cheers-K Edited June 30, 2006 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunster Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Incidentally the remote supplied with the RH1 is pretty useless. Stick with the RM-MC40ELK supplied with the NH1. Works fine on the RH1. The battery is also the same on both models so unless you need the NH1 keep it as a backup machine and use the battery as a spare for your RH1.About the remote is absolutely rubbish. I can't understand why you need a huge bulky remote to see titles. The one lined remote is more than fine. Why are people so lazy in clicking in a few buttons to see the artist/title? The RH1 even instructs the remote to show you the title and artist after going to another track. I personally think the RM-MC40ELK is extremely ugly to carry around, especially if you get the sleek RH1.These RH1 vs NH1 (or any other unit) are getting tiresome.Anyway, here's a list of reasons of why you "should" get the the RH1...1) Its sleek design - beats all the others hands down and is extremely sexy2) Legacy upload and recording support - Recover old SP/LP2/LP4 recordings made on any other unit3) USB 2.0 utilisation - alot quicker when transfering, downloading or uploading4) Its new and you'll get far more support in the community here if you have any problems.5) Sounds great! - I have no other HIMD units to compare with, but you can't any better sound than the RH1.I could go on forever with reasons, but, if you can afford it, get the newest model. the RH1 is definately a fantastic long-term investment compared with any other unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Actually some people who are getting on in years and who have fat fingers can't always easily SEE the info easily on a 1 line display and find it awkward to manipulate small buttons. I like the shape and it's great to be able to REVERSE the standard jog dial on the remote (why are these devices always designed for right handed people).For younger people who are into manipulating small buttons as a matter of course (look how often they do texting on mobile phones) then the other remote might seem to be a bit big.However it suits me and I still think that while in EVERY OTHER dept the RH1 has not only matched but far exceeded what I expected the remote was a let down.Cheers-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbz8 Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Actually some people who are getting on in years and who have fat fingers can't always easily SEE the info easily on a 1 line display and find it awkward to manipulate small buttons. I like the shape and it's great to be able to REVERSE the standard jog dial on the remote (why are these devices always designed for right handed people).For younger people who are into manipulating small buttons as a matter of course (look how often they do texting on mobile phones) then the other remote might seem to be a bit big.However it suits me and I still think that while in EVERY OTHER dept the RH1 has not only matched but far exceeded what I expected the remote was a let down.Cheers-KOne additional advantage when using the RM-MC40ELK with the RH1 unit is that the labels along the sides of the remote are printed in black text on the silver/gray plastic. This makes them so much easier to read then the labels on the RH1 remote which are the same color as the surrounding plastic - dumb!I know that in time, one would probably just get used to where the buttons are and not need the labels. But having them so hard to read to begin with just doesn't make sense to me.Also, if you need two hands to use the remote, like I often do when trying to change the volume on the RH1 remote, then it makes the remote very unfriendly. Thank goodness for the standard, discrete press buttons for volume on the RM-MC40ELK.In short, the RH1 remote is awful and the only blot on an otherwise superior unit, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumz Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 One additional advantage when using the RM-MC40ELK with the RH1 unit is that the labels along the sides of the remote are printed in black text on the silver/gray plastic. This makes them so much easier to read then the labels on the RH1 remote which are the same color as the surrounding plastic - dumb!I know that in time, one would probably just get used to where the buttons are and not need the labels. But having them so hard to read to begin with just doesn't make sense to me.Also, if you need two hands to use the remote, like I often do when trying to change the volume on the RH1 remote, then it makes the remote very unfriendly. Thank goodness for the standard, discrete press buttons for volume on the RM-MC40ELK.In short, the RH1 remote is awful and the only blot on an otherwise superior unit, IMHO.Well having used 1 line remotes in the past I don't think they're bad-- of course I'm not familiar with how this might compare to previous Sony one line remotes. My dad has used one with his old RH900 and he's getting up there in years. The main drawback I see to a 1 line remote is navigation, especially if this has no sort of jog dial. On the 40elk it at least has a jog wheel to scroll through tracks faster. With a 1 line you'll just have to make sure your music is grouped into smaller chunks (this wasn't a problem when albums were only 80-160 minutes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minidisc_fan Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) Well having used 1 line remotes in the past I don't think they're bad-- of course I'm not familiar with how this might compare to previous Sony one line remotes. My dad has used one with his old RH900 and he's getting up there in years. The main drawback I see to a 1 line remote is navigation, especially if this has no sort of jog dial. On the 40elk it at least has a jog wheel to scroll through tracks faster. With a 1 line you'll just have to make sure your music is grouped into smaller chunks (this wasn't a problem when albums were only 80-160 minutes).A pro for the NH1:I own both units, the RH-1 since today! (30. June 2006) and I've found out that the NH1 plays all songs only once in shuffle mode (even if you press stop, it memorizes the songs already played). The RH1 can only play songs in shuffle mode with repeat function on and it also doesn't have program play mode, like the NH1. However, the ability to upload old MDs to PC makes the RH1 worth buying! Edited June 30, 2006 by minidisc_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himd_anxiety Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I can't believe people are acting as if anything from the first generation could possibly be worth owning. lol j/k I just got my NH1 yesterday and will probably post my review tonight. I would have been able to review my NH900, too, but I had the misfortune of not being home for the delivery guy. I will say that I love the NH1. One thing I find to be true of all Hi-MD players is that they're too loud. I don't recall the 600D being too loud, but all the others I have owned leave me shocked at how little of the volume bar is filled in during comfortable play. Hi-MD would not only be foolish, but painful and intolerable at its highest volume. Both my players (and I'm sure NH900 will be no exception)are much louder than my NW-HD5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbz8 Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 A pro for the NH1:I own both units, the RH-1 since today! (30. June 2006) and I've found out that the NH1 plays all songs only once in shuffle mode (even if you press stop, it memorizes the songs already played). The RH1 can only play songs in shuffle mode with repeat function on and it also doesn't have program play mode, like the NH1. However, the ability to upload old MDs to PC makes the RH1 worth buying!The RH1 also only plays songs once in shuffle mode, albeit before repeating the list with a different shuffle. But it never plays songs more than once before completing a full pass of whatever songs are being shuffled. This goes for even when you press stop - pressing play will just pick you up right where you left off. At least that is how it works for me. I am not sure why it would be important that the unit stops after the first shuffled pass through the song list, so IMHO I don't consider this an advantage for the NH1. And the RH1 has a type of Program play mode called Bookmark Play where you can select the tracks you want to hear by bookmarking them and then selecting the Bookmark Play Mode to play just those tracks. Of course, to set the bookmark initially, the track itself must be playing. So it is not quite as simple to set up as a typical Program Play mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogville Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I can't believe people are acting as if anything from the first generation could possibly be worth owning. lol j/k I just got my NH1 yesterday and will probably post my review tonight. I would have been able to review my NH900, too, but I had the misfortune of not being home for the delivery guy. I will say that I love the NH1. One thing I find to be true of all Hi-MD players is that they're too loud. I don't recall the 600D being too loud, but all the others I have owned leave me shocked at how little of the volume bar is filled in during comfortable play. Hi-MD would not only be foolish, but painful and intolerable at its highest volume. Both my players (and I'm sure NH900 will be no exception)are much louder than my NW-HD5.I hope that to happen with the rh-1 as well, because they have the same output, I guess (¿) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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