jernikfra Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Well those darn Copy Controlled "CD's" are a real pain, they won't let you make digital copies of the CD's you payed good money for.I tried a new method of beating them and it worked! I use to play them through my computers cdrom drive and then out through my usb to optical adapter into optical input on md recorder.that worked, but the problem was the software that played the CD's limited them to 192kbps, so i was already losing way too much quality.Then i bought my mzrh1 and have set the MD simple burner as the default player for Cd's.So i can play the CD's using MD simple burner, get the gracenote info, and get what sounds to me like better quality than the onkyo 192 kbps software that came with my usb to optical adapter.The best part was the copy control garbage gets thrown out in the process! Sweet! I tried playing a copy controlled cd through an scms stripper and then onto md with optical connections, but the scms stripper let me reocrd, but the songs had gaps in them so it didn't really work...If anybody thinks that I am not getting any better than 192kbps through this md simple burner to usb to optical method, please let me know! I'm hoping someone can explain if am or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) A couple more methods:1. Record the CD from a CD/DVD player with an optical out to a [Hi]MD unit. This way you'll get the best possible quality.2. Do not allow the Copy Control software to run when inserting the CD (by holding down the Shift key long enough). If the software is already installed - uninstall it (the CDs contain an uninstallation program). Then rip the CD to WAVs with something like Nero (SonicStage won't allow ripping if it sees Copy Control files, even if those are not installed to the PC), import the WAVs into SonicStage, use Gracenote (it will work), and then encode the files into ATRAC3[plus] (all at once - to keep them gapless), and transfer. Edited February 8, 2007 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brfff Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 ... or use a Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Or Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I wonder, if they don't want us to rip these, how are we supposed to play them in our mp3/atrac players? Carry CD players and a bag of original CDs with us instead? Purchase the compressed version separately? Abandon portable listening? Makes no sense to me. At least this silliness can be circumvented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 * Moved to Software Discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pata2001 Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I've been able to rip CCCDs since the beginning. Sure, some drives are really slow in ripping CCCDs, but in the end, they are all rippable. EAC is your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 (edited) Any Copy Protected AUDIO CD (at least in the EU) is ILLEGAL. Strange as it's normally the OTHER way around. Any product sold as a CD has to conform to the original patent still controlled / owned by Philips who have never requested this "Feature" (Copy Protection) be added to audio CD's. The relevant standards and patents can be seen -- called something like The Red Book. There are other standards and conventions for DATA CD's, Video CD's and mixed content however pure AUDIO CD's must still follow the redbook and be DRM Free.If you see any "Bog Standard" CD's that are copy protected get a refund as these are not valid CD's. The only part of a CD that can be protected legally is an extension whereby some of the TEXT can be copy protected - but this is irrelevant these days with access to CDDB / FREEDB for the music titles.SACD iis another matter.What is actually quite interesting now is that after the initial corporate Greed shown by Apple in refusing to allow other players access to it's music formats is now making an 11th hour desperate plea to the music industry to start relaxing some of the irksome DRM issues --amazing what happens once a company's sales have matured sparking fierce internal debates as to where the next revenue stream comes from.Even Bill Gates ha said current DRM restrictions are too consumer unfriendlyhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6182657.stmApple's plea for easing DRM restrictionshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6337275.stmHowever Warner is still kicking it's heels. There's always one rubber a--hole in the pack.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6344929.stmanyway if you want to keep DRM free music then don't let the CD die --keep buying a few to keep the format alive.Cheers-K Edited February 10, 2007 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 CD's can be protected nonetheless in the EU... they simply can't carry the audioCD logo then. And indeed you can get your cash back if you buy a cd with the logo AND CP... but then you still do not have the music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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