Sonicstage...what am i doing wrong

[pepper]

I'm trying to transfer music from my md to my pc and im having problems. It gives a list on the right hand side of all the tracks on the disc,when i select them all and try and move it says it cant find the destination folder to save the files.Also on the md display it says pc to md and i want to go from md to pc via usb.Im using sonicstage version 4.0 and ive tried all i can think of.Any help is greatly appreciated.I have only recently started recording in hi-sp mode and want to make as good a transfer as possible.I have quite a few gigs coming up in the next few weeks and would really like to share the recordings.Ive just started using sonicstage 4.0 and im really trying to understand it.

[Richard]

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[raintheory]

What MiniDisc unit are you using?

Only Hi-MD Models can upload to PC via USB.

[greenmachine]

Did you try to set a different destination folder (tools->options->location to save...)? Do you have the option "save in wav format when importing" checked? (transfer mode settings button->advanced->import settings)? Make sure a valid folder is specified.

Edited March 17, 2007 by greenmachine

[Sparky191]

....I have only recently started recording in hi-sp mode...

I assume pepper has a HiMD.

I don't think the display on the unit means anything except that its connected to a PC not the direction of the transfer. Maybe it does, I've never paid much attention to it tbh. I'd do what greenmachine suggest, reselect the destination folder.

[pepper]

Im using a mz-nh700 hi-md,maybe i should have mentioned that before.Thanks for all your help,il give it another go today and see how i get on.

[Avrin]

Make sure you are logged in with Administrator privileges.

[pepper]

Ive tried all i can and still im getting nowhere,maybe im making this seem so tricky but i cant seem to get anywhere.I connect my md to pc via usb,my tracks show up in the window to tranfer,i select all of them and transfer to library.When i do this i get these messages,a track can be imported to your computer.Sonicstage can then be used to either play the track or transfer it to aportable device/media are you sure you want to import a track.I get the options yes/no/help.I click yes then i get this message cannot access the folderfor saving imported files.Verify that the folder location is correct.From the catergory section,click locations to save imported files.So i choose a folder and it doesnt do anything,i check the folder to see if anything has happened and there are no files.Sorry if this is a long explanation but i wanted to write word for word what messages i get so then it may help to explain exactly where im going wrong.

[Sparky191]

Seems like a permissions problem. Can you try moving/pointing your SonicStage Library to somewhere like C:\My SonicStage and perhaps pointing your transfer to the same place. Then try it. If that doesn't work I'd un-install and then reinstall as it only takes 20-30mins.

[pepper]

Seems like a permissions problem. Can you try moving/pointing your SonicStage Library to somewhere like C:\My SonicStage and perhaps pointing your transfer to the same place. Then try it. If that doesn't work I'd un-install and then reinstall as it only takes 20-30mins.

Il give it a go,cheers sparky

[pepper]

still having no luck.

[A440]

Are you trying to upload recordings made on the NH700?

That is, not recordings made on legacy MDs and not music transferred to MD with SonicStage. Those will not transfer from the NH700.

Otherwise, do one more reinstall, preferably 4.2, with Administrator privileges as noted above.

When you reinstall, try using the default directories and not changing them. SonicStage has trouble finding the music otherwise.

[pepper]

Are you trying to upload recordings made on the NH700?

That is, not recordings made on legacy MDs and not music transferred to MD with SonicStage. Those will not transfer from the NH700.

Otherwise, do one more reinstall, preferably 4.2, with Administrator privileges as noted above.

When you reinstall, try using the default directories and not changing them. SonicStage has trouble finding the music otherwise.

What are administartor privilges??

[Sparky191]

What are administartor privilges??

In Windows Xp your user should be administrator or have administrator rights.

[pepper]

Is there any other program i could use....is it possible with audacity??.

[Sparky191]

Is there any other program i could use....is it possible with audacity??.

No.

Are you still getting the same error?

[pepper]

No.

Are you still getting the same error?

Yep

[pepper]

Dont ask how,but ive got it sorted....a fluke???possibly, but now i can at last transfer my recordings digitally.Thanks for the help and the patience of the people on here.

[pepper]

I have just one more question,i wanted it to convert to wav,but all files are saved as atrac files.When i click on one it opens up sonicstage,do i have to re do the transfer or can the files be changed??>

[pepper]

This is what i do step by step

i plug my md into sonic which brings this screen.I select the stuff i want to tranfer and click to the arrow.It starts transferring to the selected folder.

then i go to the folder where the files are saving to and it says they are oma files

When i click on the folder to open it this is what is inside( atrac files)

when sonic has finished transferring the selected files i get this .

So is the stuff that is saved as atrac files also saved as wavs on my pc somewhere??

Edited April 10, 2007 by pepper

[Sparky191]

Only if you choose to also save them as Wav's aswell. If not you right clicking in SS should give the option to save as Wav.

[pepper]

So if i save as wav will they be ok to upload onto torrent sites as lossless audio.I really admire your patience sparky,think i owe you a drink or two.

[Sparky191]

Yes. Personally after converting them to WAV I'd then convert them to FLAC as its lossless and compressed. Much much smaller file size than a WAV. But same quality. Be faster to upload and download. Whomever gets them can convert them back to whatever format they want.

Edited April 10, 2007 by Sparky191

[pepper]

Ok thanks again sparky

[A440]

Once the files are uploaded into My Library you can also convert them to FLAC (or .mp3 or .ogg or even .wav) with Hi-MD Renderer, which is in Downloads, if you want to save a step and not have those giant .wav files filling your hard drive.

I also recommend using the File Conversion Tool, which gives you the option to remove DRM from your .oma files. Under Tools, go to Start File Conversion Tool, which will close SonicStage (takes a little while, don't worry) and then, after a few Nexts, shows you a check box that says Add Copy Protection. Uncheck that (so that both boxes are unchecked) and continue, and you'll get .oma files that you can play in any installation of SonicStage, not just the one on your computer.

And do you have any idea how you finally got it working? It might help someone else.

[pepper]

Once the files are uploaded into My Library you can also convert them to FLAC (or .mp3 or .ogg or even .wav) with Hi-MD Renderer, which is in Downloads, if you want to save a step and not have those giant .wav files filling your hard drive.

I also recommend using the File Conversion Tool, which gives you the option to remove DRM from your .oma files. Under Tools, go to Start File Conversion Tool, which will close SonicStage (takes a little while, don't worry) and then, after a few Nexts, shows you a check box that says Add Copy Protection. Uncheck that (so that both boxes are unchecked) and continue, and you'll get .oma files that you can play in any installation of SonicStage, not just the one on your computer.

And do you have any idea how you finally got it working? It might help someone else.

Not exactly,but if i can il type up a simple tutorial....if i can remember.

[Sparky191]

...I also recommend using the File Conversion Tool, which gives you the option to remove DRM from your .oma files. ...

I didn't think you have DRM on your own recordings.

For importing CD's I turn it off in SonicStage. http://picasaweb.google.com/McCoogy/SonicStage42

[raintheory]

I didn't think you have DRM on your own recordings.

Yep, you do.. But converting the format to the same bitrate makes a copy of the file (not transcoded) without DRM.

Otherwise, if you say, back up your recordings to DVD or whatnot and then try to import those to another install of SonicStage it won't work.

[pepper]

Just when i thought GREAT!! i have beat this and can now share my recordings on torrent sites as they are going to be lossless,i get this reply.

taken from the traders den site

I highly recommend you start recording in 16bit/44.1kHz LPCM WAV instead of mucking around with shitty atrac.

sometimes i feel so out of league with a lot of people.

i dont understand the bloody khz etc,all i know is i want to transfer my live recordings and share them.I thought the way i was doing it would be acceptable for torrent sites.I didnt intend to muck around with atrac,as this is just what it saved as in sonicstage.I was told lp2 was terrible to use for recording,so i started using hi-sp,and now that doesnt seem good enough.

[Sparky191]

Yep, you do.. But converting the format to the same bitrate makes a copy of the file (not transcoded) without DRM.

Otherwise, if you say, back up your recordings to DVD or whatnot and then try to import those to another install of SonicStage it won't work.

Can't say I've specifically tried my own recordings. But I've had no problem with rips from CD's and I would have assumed I would have my recordings in the same library too. Maybe not. http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=16048&hl= I don't use SS for my library any more so its not something I'm come across. I convert my recordings to WAV then burn them in a CD before ripping them to MP3 or whatever.

Edited April 11, 2007 by Sparky191

[A440]

I highly recommend you start recording in 16bit/44.1kHz LPCM WAV instead of mucking around with shitty atrac.

Some of these people can read numbers a lot better than they can hear.

A lot of traders' sites are hung up on specs. They insist that the original recordings not be compressed, which is what they mean by "mucking around with atrac." Hi-SP is Atrac compression at 256 kbps--that's how it fits so much more on a disc than a PCM recording would. In theory the traders are correct: You do get a more hi-fi recording in PCM, and blowing up a compressed (Hi-SP) recording to lossless files only makes sure you don't lose any more--it doesn't turn it into an original PCM recording.

ATRAC also has a bad reputation from long-gone old days and from LP2 and LP4, which do cramp the music.

In practice, I'll bet most of the trader music snobs couldn't tell the difference in a blind test between a Hi-SP recording and a PCM one, given that you're dealing with live concert sound and not a studio situation.

I've also heard a lot of lossless recordings on those sites that were made through pathetic microphones with lots of crowd noise, and a Hi-SP recording with good mics sounds better.

You could lie....send them .wav or .flac uploads of Hi-SP recordings and just say they were originally PCM. I'd be curious about whether you'd get busted on that.

[pepper]

I really appreciate that reply a440,made a lot of sense.

[pepper]

Is there anyway to disable the group function,so i can record as one long file( and not loads and loads of files) on my md.Is disabling the track mark function going to allow me to do this??.I know i will have to have the groups,but if i can have just one file per group that would be a great help to me.Anyone have any ideas???,thank you.

[Sparky191]

I just combine them myself in SonicStage.

[A440]

I don't think Group is the problem you are having. When you record through Line-in a track mark is inserted automatically after 2 seconds of silence. Unfortuneately, there is no way to disable this.

As Sparky 191 says, you can combine all the tracks after uploading to My Library with the Combine function under Edit in SonicStage. Make sure you highlight the tracks in the order you want them (usually top to bottom), because there is no Undo.

Group function starts a new Group (folder) each time you start recording. I find this very useful, since one disc holds more than one concert, but you can disable it through the REC SET menus and just record the whole disc as one group. But that won't stop the automatic track marking with Line-in.