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I've been browsing around again for a MD recorder. I was going to buy a NH700 but then I looked at craigslist and there's a MZ-R700 in my area for $40 with a stereo mic and 25 MD's. I was thinking that it might be better to spend less on a MD unit and get a better mic than I would be able to get if I went the NH700 route.

I would most likely fill the discs and record them back to my PC when I return from the road.

With 25 MD's that would mean: 25 Discs X 80min = 2000 Min's (?)

I case anyone's wondering here's my old MD Quest

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I've been browsing around again for a MD recorder. I was going to buy a NH700 but then I looked at craigslist and there's a MZ-700 in my area for $40 with a stereo mic and 25 MD's. I was thinking that it might be better to spend less on a MD unit and get a better mic than I would be able to get if I went the NH700 route.

I would most likely fill the discs and record them back to my PC when I return from the road.

With 25 MD's that would mean: 25 Discs X 80min = 2000 Min's (?)

I case anyone's wondering here's my old MD Quest

With the NH-700 you would be able to digitally upload what you record on it, with the 700, you would have to real time it into the puter, get both,

Bob

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I was thinking that it might be better to spend less on a MD unit and get a better mic than I would be able to get if I went the NH700 route.

If it were me, I'd simply save up for a Hi-MD and proper mic, unless you're just stuffing about experimenting for fun and not much else.

I love my MZ-NH700 almost more than life itself some days (tacky silver-painted plastic construction and all).

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The Hi-MD transfers would make it easier when i get back (backing trip). I might kick myself when I get back. And I could carry a few Hi-MD Discs rather than dozens of MD's.

I was thinking that if the $40 md gets stolen on the road it wouldn't be a big deal. I wouldn't be worrying about it. And I could play with it today.

still confused :mellow:

Is eBay or this forum the only place to look for the NH700?

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The Hi-MD transfers would make it easier when i get back (backing trip). I might kick myself when I get back. And I could carry a few Hi-MD Discs rather than dozens of MD's.

I was thinking that if the $40 md gets stolen on the road it wouldn't be a big deal. I wouldn't be worrying about it. And I could play with it today.

still confused :mellow:

Is eBay or this forum the only place to look for the NH700?

The $40.00 is money very well spent, and it gets you into minidisc, but your option after that if you want to get your recordings onto the computer is an RH1 or M200. As for finding an NH700, you can look in bargain bins, craiglist, yahoo, and amazon, and this forum

Have fun

Bob

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The $40.00 is money very well spent, and it gets you into minidisc, but your option after that if you want to get your recordings onto the computer is an RH1 or M200. As for finding an NH700, you can look in bargain bins, craiglist, yahoo, and amazon, and this forum

Have fun

Bob

So I wouldn't be able to transfer recordings I made on MZ-R700 recorded discs from a NH-700? (If I buy one afterwords)

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That's right, only the MZ-RH1 / M200 can upload to PC (via USB) the 'legacy' recordings that the R700 can make. You'd be stuck with real time transfers to a PC with the R700, or indeed any non Hi-MD recorder. That would obviously be quite a formidable task with 25 or so discs.

A non RH1/M200 Hi-MD such as the NH700 would be able to upload its own Hi-MD mode recordings (Hi-SP, Hi-LP, PCM).

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That's right, only the MZ-RH1 / M200 can upload to PC (via USB) the 'legacy' recordings that the R700 can make. You'd be stuck with real time transfers to a PC with the R700, or indeed any non Hi-MD recorder. That would obviously be quite a formidable task with 25 or so discs.

A non RH1/M200 Hi-MD such as the NH700 would be able to upload its own Hi-MD mode recordings (Hi-SP, Hi-LP, PCM).

Thanks for all the info guys.

One last thing, how much noise do these devices make when recording?

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One last thing, how much noise do these devices make when recording?

Reports vary. I have never had a problem but I usually keep it in my pocket. Recorded something a few nights back with NH700 and absolutely zippo except the person next to me coughing a couple of times.

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Though deck-wise, I do think the Onkyo decks and bookshelf systems could have had a more silent MD mechanism; The Hi-MD Walkmans are hardly noticeable, but I find my Onkyo Hi-MD devices a tad disappointing in this regard. Anyone else agree here?

EDIT: Lol, Barock, you beat me to it by a few seconds only :D !

You said it bettter though, Wiz ;)

Interesting about the noise fom Onykyo decks. I was thinking about getting one, but if it's noisy it'll probably drive me mad at night. Definitely one advantage of decks with a flash drive input...

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I bought the MZ-R700 last night, I love this thing thanks for the help guys! Of all the reading i've done on MD's I didn't realize that the discs come in cartridges, very cool.

As long as you aren't using those T-plug-in mic's you'll be fine; an external mic with its normal length of cable should do fine.

One more thing:

It did come with a T-plug mic, I hooked the mic to the player, extended the cord that came with mic and hit record. but there was a lot of background hiss (high noise floor). Is it the mic making this hiss? Or the internal mic preamp on the MD? I had the rec level on manual and cranked up...

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My previous comment related to mechanical noise. What you are describing likely comes from the microphone circuits. The automatic level control works pretty well, so you may be panicking prematurely.

There are more expensive mics available - possibly you had a dud ECM-DS70? Of these, there are reports of knockoffs, though I have purchased two that probably answer to that description and both worked perfectly.

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While the NH700 is a great start in the trahsition from legacy recording to Hi-MD or Linear PCM recording, you may want to someday upgrade to an RH1/M200 in the near future, although I do admit the advantage of having a "AA" battery-based unit like the NH700 beats the RH1/M200 in that respect.

Also keep in mind that you don't want to use the SoS 2.0 CD-ROM that comes with it, you would be better off upgrading to 4.2 CP (with Win XP) for maximum versatility with minimal restriction.

Also for playback purposes, don't forget that the NH700 also has full compatibility with not only all Sony LCD display remotes (i myself use the RM-MC40ELK, better find one fast, I think Sony may have pulled the plug on them!), but also, because it and the NHF800 are virtually the same unit (except for the NHF800's VPF Acoustic Engine), they both also work with the RM-MC39LT Hi-MD/AM/FM/TV/WB remote as well (as part of the digital transition, the TV band may no longer work, as it is analog-based).

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