HiMD Transfer for Linux, working

sfbp · June 9, 2009

I tend to end up with loads of small files due to the unstoppable auto track marking

What????

It's an option, we will help u find it

cbmuser · June 9, 2009

I hope to release beta 5 for general testing - on condition:
1) I get permission from the people who made this linux project - I've used their code to decrypt the Atrac / PCM data (I already had mp3 done myself)

Well, you should contact us to ask for permission, shouldn't you ? And we haven't heard of you, yet. Actually our code is covered by GPL, so you would have to release the source-code of our parts again if you want to publish it. Whenever you use GPL-ed code, you have to release the source-code as well, thats the terms.

Please join us in #linux-minidisc on FreeNode to discuss. I cannot decide this on my own, Michael wrote most of the libhimd-code.

Adrian

cbmuser · June 11, 2009

Hi folks,

we have agreed with Marc and I think he is going to release a new version of HiMDRenderer soon.

Adrian

raintheory · June 11, 2009

Glad to see you guys and MarC swapping info.. MarC has been here for us MD users for a long time. Keep up the great work guys!

cbmuser · June 12, 2009

Hi folks,

today I tested the build process on a Mac Mini G4 with MacOS 10.5.7 and everything builds without problems now. If you simply follow the steps, you can build QHiMDTransfer yourself very easily:

https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-mini...=compilingonmac

Just make sure you install the current version of XCode 3.1 from the Apple Developer Website (the older version provided with 10.5 will not work) and Qt 4.5.0 or higher and Macports with the necessary packages. Everything is explained in the website linked above, however.

Adrian

Avrin · June 12, 2009

However, you still need to install it as my program depends on the dlls and stuff that is installed with Sonicstage to decode the atrac data

Does it need a complete installation, or just OpenMG libraries (like Minidisc Simple Burner)? If only OpenMG libraries are required, there is no need to install the entire SonicStage package. You can always download and install OpenMG and NetMD drivers separately.

Edited June 12, 2009 by Avrin

cbmuser · June 12, 2009

Does it need a complete installation, or just OpenMG libraries (like Minidisc Simple Burner)? If only OpenMG libraries are required, there is no need to install the entire SonicStage package. You can always download and install OpenMG and NetMD drivers separately.

I haven't tested HiMDRenderer myself, but to my current knowledge of SonicStage and OpenMG, the sole installation of OpenMG should be sufficient as long the DirectShow-filters are installed as well. Just give it a try and report back .

Adrian

baturjan · June 25, 2009

Hi folks,
today I tested the build process on a Mac Mini G4 with MacOS 10.5.7 and everything builds without problems now. If you simply follow the steps, you can build QHiMDTransfer yourself very easily:

I'm not a Terminal guy by any means, but the install was simple. Thanks to your clear instructions. Yes, it took over an hour for the extra packages to be installed in Macports.

QHiMDTransfer works great for uploading PCM recordings. Thanks! I'm running OS 10.5.7 on a MacBook 2.4 (black)

A couple of notes for feedback:

1) One thing to add would be that QHiMDTransfer remembers where you uploaded tracks last in the Finder. Then, the next time you upload, you don't have to go through the process of finding the directory, that is if you are uploading to the same folder each time. This is a minor inconvenience in light of the freedom that this application offers.

2) the rename feature isn't working. I highlight an item and click the rename icon (or the File menu item), but nothing happens.

3) My daily recordings are done on an MDLP unit (B10) that I then upload to my computer everyday in SonicStage. MD formatted discs inserted into the RH1 will not show up in the Finder. Is it even a possibility to develop QHiMDTransfer to transfer SP/LP/mono recordings, when non HiMD discs do not show up in the Finder?

One thing to note for all those who are going to upgrade to Leopard Snow, is that QHiMDTransfer is a universal app. Whereas Hi-MD Music Transfer is PowerPC, which will not work in Leopard Snow. And I doubt that Sony has any plans of further development for Hi-MD Music Transfer.

Edited June 25, 2009 by baturjan

cbmuser · June 26, 2009

Hello baturjan,

I'm not a Terminal guy by any means, but the install was simple. Thanks to your clear instructions. Yes, it took over an hour for the extra packages to be installed in Macports.
QHiMDTransfer works great for uploading PCM recordings. Thanks! I'm running OS 10.5.7 on a MacBook 2.4 (black)

Thanks for your positive feedback .

A couple of notes for feedback:
1) One thing to add would be that QHiMDTransfer remembers where you uploaded tracks last in the Finder. Then, the next time you upload, you don't have to go through the process of finding the directory, that is if you are uploading to the same folder each time. This is a minor inconvenience in light of the freedom that this application offers.

This is something we can put into the final version, I will put it onto the TODO-list.

2) the rename feature isn't working. I highlight an item and click the rename icon (or the File menu item), but nothing happens.

Yes, renaming/formatting/downloading is not working at the moment. We already know how to format a HiMD and also how to rename tracks, it's just a matter of implementation. We are still busy with other stuff at the moment, please give us some time, the software is still under heavy development.

3) My daily recordings are done on an MDLP unit (B10) that I then upload to my computer everyday in SonicStage. MD formatted discs inserted into the RH1 will not show up in the Finder. Is it even a possibility to develop QHiMDTransfer to transfer SP/LP/mono recordings, when non HiMD discs do not show up in the Finder?

Yes, we are working on that and have already successfully uploaded standard MDs with the RH1 on Linux during tests. Also, ffmpeg supports decoding of ATRAC-SP directly, so you will be able to play your recordings with VLC soon. Please just give us some time here as well, we have only limited capacities. Expect something fully working in one year (worst case).

One thing to note for all those who are going to upgrade to Leopard Snow, is that QHiMDTransfer is a universal app. Whereas Hi-MD Music Transfer is PowerPC, which will not work in Leopard Snow. And I doubt that Sony has any plans of further development for Hi-MD Music Transfer.

Well, not. It's not universal but you create the app from the sources yourself, so it will work on any Mac or other computer which supports Qt and the other libraries. That's the power of Open Source .

Adrian

baturjan · June 27, 2009

Adrian,

I'm stoked at the work you guys are going, and look forward to each development. If you are able to accomplish it, you will produce what almost everyone on the this forum (and elsewhere) wished they had for years. Thanks!

cbmuser · June 29, 2009

Hi folks,

just wanted to let you know that we have some program-code now which is able to decrypt ATRAC3-files from SoS without having to have SonicStage installed. It only requires some key files which are stored in:

"C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Sony Shared\\OpenMG\\Omgkey\\omg_id.dat"
"C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Sony Shared\\OpenMG\\procfile"

If you have these files you are able to decrypt any OpenMG content and play it with VLC or mplayer for example.

For legal issues, we are not sure when we are going to merge this code into ours (Sony still has very good lawyers) but I just want to let you know that we just made another big leap thanks to this guy.

Adrian

Edited June 29, 2009 by cbmuser

LonelyMachines · July 1, 2009

3. Build libhimd and QHiMDTransfer:
cd linux-minidisc/libhimd
./autogen.sh
make

cd ../QHiMDTransfer
qmake
make

Got this far, but autogen.sh doesn't exist in the libhimd directory, and make returns a number of encryption errors. Running Ubuntu Hardy Heron.

cbmuser · July 1, 2009

Got this far, but autogen.sh doesn't exist in the libhimd directory, and make returns a number of encryption errors. Running Ubuntu Hardy Heron.

Yes, thats because we have changed the build-system. The instructions you are using are outdated, please see here:

https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-mini...ompilingonlinux

Adrian

LonelyMachines · July 2, 2009

Yes, thats because we have changed the build-system.

D'oh! Tried it again today. Everything builds properly, except for qhimdtransfer. Qmake runs, but when I run make, I get this error:

cd libhimd/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/libhimd'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `first'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/libhimd'
cd himdtest/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/himdtest'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `first'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/himdtest'
cd qhimdtransfer/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/qhimdtransfer'
g++ -c -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4 -I. -I../libhimd -I. -I. -o qhimdmainwindow.o qhimdmainwindow.cpp
qhimdmainwindow.cpp: In member function ‘void QHiMDMainWindow::dumppcm(himd*, int, QString)’:
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:52: error: ‘struct sox_signalinfo_t’ has no member named ‘length’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:53: error: ‘struct sox_signalinfo_t’ has no member named ‘precision’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:56: error: conversion from ‘QByteArray’ to ‘sox_bool (*)(const char*)’ is ambiguous
/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qbytearray.h:345: note: candidates are: QByteArray::operator QNoImplicitBoolCast() const <near match>
/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qbytearray.h:394: note:                 QByteArray::operator const void*() const <near match>
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: error: invalid conversion from ‘sox_sample_t*’ to ‘const sox_ssample_t*’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: error:   initializing argument 2 of ‘sox_size_t sox_write(sox_format_t*, const sox_ssample_t*, sox_size_t)’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:45: warning: unused variable ‘clipcount’
make[1]: *** [qhimdmainwindow.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/qhimdtransfer'
make: *** [sub-qhimdtransfer-make_default] Error 2

I don't have a clue when it comes to QT (Perl, on the other hand...).

Edited July 2, 2009 by LonelyMachines

cbmuser · July 3, 2009

D'oh! Tried it again today. Everything builds properly, except for qhimdtransfer. Qmake runs, but when I run make, I get this error:

cd libhimd/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/libhimd'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `first'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/libhimd'
cd himdtest/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/himdtest'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `first'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/himdtest'
cd qhimdtransfer/ && make -f Makefile 
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/qhimdtransfer'
g++ -c -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4 -I. -I../libhimd -I. -I. -o qhimdmainwindow.o qhimdmainwindow.cpp
qhimdmainwindow.cpp: In member function ‘void QHiMDMainWindow::dumppcm(himd*, int, QString)’:
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:52: error: ‘struct sox_signalinfo_t’ has no member named ‘length’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:53: error: ‘struct sox_signalinfo_t’ has no member named ‘precision’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:56: error: conversion from ‘QByteArray’ to ‘sox_bool (*)(const char*)’ is ambiguous
/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qbytearray.h:345: note: candidates are: QByteArray::operator QNoImplicitBoolCast() const <near match>
/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qbytearray.h:394: note:                 QByteArray::operator const void*() const <near match>
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: error: invalid conversion from ‘sox_sample_t*’ to ‘const sox_ssample_t*’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: error:   initializing argument 2 of ‘sox_size_t sox_write(sox_format_t*, const sox_ssample_t*, sox_size_t)’
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:80: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions
qhimdmainwindow.cpp:45: warning: unused variable ‘clipcount’
make[1]: *** [qhimdmainwindow.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/erik/linux-minidisc/qhimdtransfer'
make: *** [sub-qhimdtransfer-make_default] Error 2

I don't have a clue when it comes to QT (Perl, on the other hand...).

This looks pretty much that your "libsox"-Library is too old. You need to have at least version 14.2 or newer which is included in Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) or newer. To check the installed version of libsox, type:

glaubitz@znote2:~> dpkg -l libsox-dev
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                            Version                         Description
+++-===============================-===============================-==============================================================================
ii  libsox-dev                      14.2.0-2                        Development files for the SoX library

You can either upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 or build a more recent libsox-library from source. Please send me a PM for instructions for the latter.

Adrian

cbmuser · October 11, 2009

Hi folks,

haven't posted here for months. Nevertheless I want to keep anybody who is still interested in a free and cross-platform minidisc software informed. To make things short, here's the current status of the linux-minidisc project:

Things that work;

- Transfer of MP3s to the PC

- Transfer of PCMs, ATRAC3 and ATRAC3+ to the PC (recordings that were made with the MZ-RH1/M100/M200 only)

- Transfer of standard MDs with the PC with the MZ-RH1 direcly into ATRAC-SP format

- NetMD transfer to the PC via analog outputs but controlled from the PC

Things that are being worked on:

- Transfer of MP3s to HiMD

- Editing functions like renaming, removing and grouping tracks

- Formatting HiMDs

- Translation of the software into other languages

Things that require more investigation:

- Transfer of PCMs/ATRAC3s/ATRAC3+s to the PC recorded with 1st and 2nd generation HiMD

- Transfer of PCMs/ATRAC3s/ATRAC3+s to HiMD

- Transfer of tracks to NetMD devices

Moreover the graphical transfer tool is being continuously being improved.

I am attaching a screenshot taken on Windows to illustrate what's actually being worked on at the moment.

All software can be found here: https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/

Regards,

Adrian

cbmuser · October 21, 2009

Hi folks,

here a screenshot of the current version on MacOS (see attachment).

We're looking for people who want to help translating the software in their native language. Translation is very easy and can be compared to using Microsoft Word (no skills beyond that are necessary). Please follow the instructions here, if you want to help:

https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php?id=translation

The instructions are not yet completed, I am very busy with lots of other things. But if anyone wants to help, let me know, I will send the instructions.

We have translators for the following languages so far:

- German

- Swedish

- Norwegian (bokm

December 10, 2009

Hello,

we are now providing pre-compiled versions for Windows, Ubuntu and MacOS X (the PPC has been just uploaded, the Intel version follows tomorrow). The app can now be easily installed without the knowledge of how to use a compiler .

Downloads:

https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php#download

Any feedback is appreciated.

Have fun,

Adrian

baturjan · December 10, 2009

Adrian,

I have an older version of QHiMDTransfer installed which does launch, but doesn't work very well.

I downloaded and put the Mac Intel version on my MacBook OS 10.5.8. However, it doesn't load. This the log from Console:

12/10/09 5:45:14 PM [0x0-0x323323].com.yourcompany.QHiMDTransfer[9835] dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/libmad.0.dylib

12/10/09 5:45:14 PM [0x0-0x323323].com.yourcompany.QHiMDTransfer[9835] Referenced from: /Applications/QHiMDTransfer.app/Contents/MacOS/QHiMDTransfer

12/10/09 5:45:14 PM [0x0-0x323323].com.yourcompany.QHiMDTransfer[9835] Reason: no suitable image found. Did find:

12/10/09 5:45:14 PM [0x0-0x323323].com.yourcompany.QHiMDTransfer[9835] /Applications/QHiMDTransfer.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/libmad.0.dylib: unknown required load command 0x80000022

12/10/09 5:45:14 PM com.apple.launchd[68] ([0x0-0x323323].com.yourcompany.QHiMDTransfer[9835]) Exited abnormally: Trace/BPT trap

cbmuser · December 10, 2009

Adrian,

I have an older version of QHiMDTransfer installed which does launch, but doesn't work very well.

I downloaded and put the Mac Intel version on my MacBook OS 10.5.8. However, it doesn't load. This the log from Console:

Hmm, might be because I built the Intel version on Snow Leopard (10.6.2). Did you try the PPC version, it should work with Rosetta.

Adrian

baturjan · December 10, 2009

Hmm, might be because I built the Intel version on Snow Leopard (10.6.2). Did you try the PPC version, it should work with Rosetta.

Adrian

The PPC version works.

March 3, 2010

Hi everybody. Any news in this battlefield?

cbmuser · March 3, 2010

Hi everybody. Any news in this battlefield?

Yes, there has been some development. Unfortunately people in this forum didn't show so much interest so I kept posting to the German forums and our mailing list.

Please check:

https://lists.fu-berlin.de/listinfo/linux-minidisc

which is the mailing list. You can subscribe to stay updated. Also, you may browse the archives public.

Adrian

March 4, 2010

Yes, there has been some development. Unfortunately people in this forum didn't show so much interest so I kept posting to the German forums and our mailing list.

Please check:

https://lists.fu-berlin.de/listinfo/linux-minidisc

which is the mailing list. You can subscribe to stay updated. Also, you may browse the archives public.

Adrian

Upsss. Litle interest? Really? I could imagine that we here in this forum would be the most interested people in something like this :s.

Well, I have subscribed to the mailing list, but...is it in english or just in german? :S Cause English isn't my natural language, but I can defend myself with it, but german... :S

cbmuser · March 4, 2010

Upsss. Litle interest? Really? I could imagine that we here in this forum would be the most interested people in something like this :s.
Well, I have subscribed to the mailing list, but...is it in english or just in german? :S Cause English isn't my natural language, but I can defend myself with it, but german... :S

Nope, everything is kept in English. Just browse through the mailing lists archives through the link I posted above. We are working hard on write-support for MP3 on HiMD now and hope we can have it finished by summer.

Today I wrote a manual how you can qhimdtransfer on Ubuntu: https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php?id=installingonubuntu.

There are also instructions how to upload standard from your MZ-RH1 to your Mac/Linux machine without the need of SonicStage:

https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php?id=installingonubuntu

We are working very hard on improving things but our resources are limited.

Adrian

cbmuser · March 4, 2010

I get an Error message when clicking the application in Karmic

Indeed, this is a bug. I have checked the package for Ubuntu Karmic and it is broken at the moment. Thanks for letting me know. I will try to fix it as soon as possible. The version for Jaunty is affected as well. I will post a reply as soon as I have fixed the problem. It's related to an incompatibility with the Ubuntu build servers.

EDIT: I have fixed the bug and uploaded new source packages to Ubuntu. However, it will take about 3 hours until the Ubuntu servers will build the new packages. The servers appear to be very busy at the moment. Sorry for the inconvenience.

You can follow the build process here:

For i386: https://launchpad.net/~glaubitz/+archive/linux-minidisc/+build/1543626

For amd64: https://launchpad.net/~glaubitz/+archive/linux-minidisc/+build/1543625

PS: The Lucid version was not affected (otherwise I would have noticed myself ).

Adrian

Dom Johnson · March 12, 2010

Can't write to my disc at all!

I have a Walkman MZ-NH600, hooked up with all USB 2.0 stuff (i believe).

The button to transfer to the table is disabled. Will take a look at the source, and see how much I can decipher (only know S.I.M.P.L.E and VB...).

cbmuser · March 12, 2010

Can't write to my disc at all!
I have a Walkman MZ-NH600, hooked up with all USB 2.0 stuff (i believe).
The button to transfer to the table is disabled. Will take a look at the source, and see how much I can decipher (only know S.I.M.P.L.E and VB...).

Yes, that is because we are still working on that. We're only a bunch of people and it's rather difficult to implement.

See: https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php#status

and: https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php?id=tasks

We hope to get support through this years' GSoC.

Adrian

Dom Johnson · March 12, 2010

Ah, Ok. Saw that a little while before I first posted.

Great work you're doing!

Zore · May 8, 2010

Hey guys.

I just tried to build this for my linux distro (PCLinuxOS). Got these error messages during make:

[root@localhost linux-minidisc]# qmake -r

Reading /root/linux-minidisc/libhimd/libhimd.pro

Reading /root/linux-minidisc/himddump/himddump.pro

Reading /root/linux-minidisc/qhimdtransfer/qhimdtransfer.pro

Package sox was not found in the pkg-config search path.

Perhaps you should add the directory containing `sox.pc'