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This is what I concluded as well--but I was still curious what the legalities were in this specific case. That's what their data media warranty states, but the warranty statement included with the minidiscs makes no such stipulation.

Whew. That was very difficult to transcribe. Another couple years and I would've needed a telescope. It sure looks like it's not limited to the "lifetime" of the disc. That would be very silly indeed. I suppose it doesn't get too specific about what constitutes a "defect". The interpretation I suppose, as it says, varies from state to state. Interestingly, though, I found this current document on Sony's site--which claims to include "minidisc" in its scope: Audio & Video Media Warranty That document appears to limit it to 2 years from time of "original retail purchase" (i.e. not transferable). But what about the included warranty on older stock? I wonder what takes precedence. It also specifies that a dated purchase receipt is required. From what I've heard about MD media reliability we shouldn't have much to worry about anyway.

I just wanted to add that I could've saved a nickel each elsewhere, but as I've said before--if the price is comparable (or close) I'd rather do business with a fellow forum member. Thanks again!

Bought and paid.

PM sent.

If you'll humor me here, I'm going to go waaaaay off topic (the "etc" part of this forum's guidelines). Much has been made of the fact that electronic communication can magnify differences because it lacks the subtle body language and other cues that usually mediate a live discussion. There have even been scholarly articles written on the topic (e.g. The positive and negative implications of anonymity in Internet social interactions: “On the Internet, Nobody Knows You’re a Dog”--abstract only, full text requires subscription). I myself have had experiences in which I had an online feud with someone, but after I met them in person I became great friends with them (I was even best man at their wedding). Anyone else have similar experiences?

Great points--I've made the point about SD cards not being 100% trustworthy myself. You're a fan, though. That doesn't mean you don't have good reasons for using MD--it means you have enough appreciation for it that you know it has capabilities that are useful to you. LOL @ "I don't fondle the discs..." Peace.

It's been dead to Joe Ipod-Lover for years. Yes, it is probably a nail in the coffin for John Recording-Enthusiast--unless he has a soft spot in his heart for the tactile features I mentioned.

I guess you missed my pitch for an area where minidisc still has appeal: From Defense Of MiniDisc's Appeal/Response to A440

I was under the impression it was running on fumes for a couple of years now already and that current stock was just being sold off. No?

Correct--nor optical input. I've read on other boards where they say "this is a deal breaker". With both USB and microSD card for data transfer, it hardly seems crucial. Optical input is certainly "nice" on a field recorder, but overkill, IMO. With no DRM and no proprietary storage media, considerations like "how do I get my content off of this stinkin' Sony lockbox?" is a thing of the past.

Er, my point was that it is fairly arbitrary--nothing basic about it. Most of them went for fair (yet more than I would pay) prices, but some people are willing to pay what this Italy seller is charging (he still has some listed, too).

There are people who will pay anything for anything. I just did a search of completed listings for the MD for Thriller. Most went for $15-$40 USD, but 3 were sold buy-it-now for $141.11 USD each from a seller in Italy.

I agree. I see them asking these prices, but I really haven't seen them be universally successful (check completed listings). Pink Floyd MDs are doing better than MJ MDs.

In any event, it's definitely worth checking. I don't know what the adapter cord looks like on these units, but I've seen adapters go bad for a variety of reasons: usually its just a break in the circuit somewhere, either in the cable itself or at either end. Rarely is it the transformer, but that's possible too if you leave it plugged in and your house gets hit by lightning. Find a local retailer who lets you return items and buy a universal adapter, check your unit--if that fixes it, either keep the adapter or return it anyway if you think you can find it more cheaply (yes, I'm bad). I have been known to use Best Buy as my own personal test bench --though not in a long time. I just checked the manual. You ought to be able to find a 3V DC output adapter pretty easily. You may even have one around your house that's used on something else. Just make sure the voltage and polarity match .

I'm not sure about that--you can still get an RH1 from pauseplaystop for ~$313 USD and a 5-pack of HiMD discs elsewhere for ~$30 USD. It's a great looking machine, though--and the standard memory upgrade capability is definitely a good direction for Sony.

I shouldn't assume anything, so in case you haven't checked out the Wildlife Sound Recording Society's review of the RH1, here it is: Wildlife Sound Recording Society MZ-RH1 Review Here is their main equipment index: Wildlife Sound Recording Society Equipment Pages That includes a review of the Edirol unit. The new Sony PCM recording the gents are pushing here isn't even released yet, but you have to admit it is pretty dapper. Feature-wise it appears to be on par with the Edirol. Maybe you can fire off an email to the folks at the WSRS website asking if they would do a review of the new Sony unit ASAP.

It looks like an NH3D to me. In fact, here's his pictorial right here on MDCF: The Blue Raja's MZ-NH3D pictorial x 2 ! (56k warning) Very quotable, too:

It's a shame that the firmware in HiMD devices aren't flash upgradeable. Imagine having something akin to Rockbox on an RH10 or RH910 (for their larger displays).

*applause* Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this little tidbit appears to answer "yes" to your question. Is this the first Sony PCM field recorder to support a non-proprietary memory upgrade?

Hehehe--disclaimers often are vague. In answer regarding the Targus--the specifications claim compatibility with the LIP-4WM, the battery used in both the RH1 and the NH1. I may try it (though not necessarily soon) because if I start using my RH1 extensively as a portable unit (not really a likely scenario, but possible) then I'd want to be able to carry fully charged spares. They make no such cradle for the RH1 that includes a spot for a spare battery as they do the NH1, so this would be my only option barring the extremely inelegant solution of using the RH1 itself as a charger for a secondary battery (something I have done with gadgets before, but I loathe doing it).

Hombre, I don't know anything about the NH1 being superior, but that's got to be some prima mota you've got there. Sharing is caring, you know. Seriously though, they make so many because people want options and they want to make money. They do the same thing with their new lines--only more so. There are many more flash-based Walkmans than HiMD Walkmans.

Just trying to keep us on topic, bob--I split off his question to the HiMD forum.

Here's a question from a member that got buried in another discussion. I wanted to make sure it got sufficient exposure so that Chris would be more likely to get his question answered.

So, while I've been ripping our CDs to FLAC I got to my wife's Beatles collection (I do like them, too--but not quite enough to have bought any of these myself) and I found that her Abbey Road is pretty much unreadable. I did I search and found out that they are releasing stereo remasters of all studio albums (including "Past Masters") and a boxed set of these (14 albums + various bonus features such as a DVD with all mini-documentaries, etc). In addition, they are releasing ONLY a boxed set of MONO remasters--which is, of course, very exciting to Beatles afficianados because generally the artists nor their primary mixing engineer (George Martin) participated in the stereo mixes. The mono mixes was their focus and this is how many Beatles fans heard the music. So I've heard... My wife and I are not old enough to have experienced this. Is anyone here planning on getting the mono boxed set and do you think it is worth getting it eventually? It's due for release September 9 and the current price is still a little out there for me--but I'd like to hear some thoughts about not just the mono remasters but the stereo remasters, too. By the way--this is not a thread for "I'm not a Beatles fan" comments--those comments are fine, but only if you have something more substantial to say to contribute to the intent of this topic. Thanks.