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it's irony.

BTW blueraja which one do you like the most and why: mz-rh10 or dh10p ? I'm going to buy one of these models and the price is similar so help me decide. thanks

I plan to post my full review of the DH10P on the T-board this weekend, but to answer you question quickly... hmm... well, I can't really answer it quickly :D I'll try.

I think the RH10 is the best machine of all HiMD. For ME, however, I'm going to stick with the DH10P as my main unit for its more robust feel (metal front & back), and strong "CHUNK" sound (Richyu's description) when you close it. I killed my RH10 by dropping it too many times, but I still feel like it is a fragile device (in my rough hands). I'm sure the camera portion of the DH10 would die sooner than the MD (based on the bad one I got in the mail first, and how it really is an MD player FIRST, then a camera (in my opinion).

I think they both sound incredible... I think I still favor the sound of the RH10. So in quick bullet format: (keep in mind these are all MY opinions... different people look at things differently)

RH10 PROS:

- best screen (though no pics or color, can be SEEN at just about ANY angle - very crisp & beautiful)

- superior sound quality

- can record w/ a mic or line in

- gumstick battery (I like those)

RH10 CONS:

- though still sturdy, not as robust feeling as an NH900 or the DH10P to me

- no color images

- battery door is the worst on any unit I've seen... guard it with your life.

DH10P PROS:

- having album pics is just so darn COOL! (see below my pics)

- sounds GREAT

- Feels sturdy

- ergonomic curvature fits RIGHT hand nicely

- camera... I don't have a cell phone cam, so having one on-the-go is pretty cool

DH10P CONS:

- ergonomic curvature not so great when you have it laying on a table, since it's not perfectly FLAT, it wobbles a tad, and the screen tilts ever so slightly away from you on an angle. (This is easily fixed if placed on like the cloth Sony pouch - as far as any wobbling goes)

- can't record

- I don't like the LION batteries... they don't make chargers for them

BOTH units have some pros & cons in the CONTROLS... so I won't bother. I think it may boil down to what do you need more: camera option or recording option. If you already own an MD that records, then maybe get the DH10P. If you already have a cell phone cam and don't need anything else... I don't know, why am I stressing over this, it's YOUR dilemma!! :lol:

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WOW! thanks blueraja for the opinions, that's exactly what i wanted to read. I was confused between both models because of the screen and the robust feel of each one. Man! with that pics I think I'll get the dh10p, it looks amazing. Thank you again man

Cool - so glad to be of help. It can be tough deciding on things you can't hold and test out on your own so I understand. I forgot to mention the battery life of the RH10 seems almost twice as long compared to the DH10P, depending of course on how you use it... in other words, if you use the camera and menus often on the DH10P, it will obviously drain much faster. I'm guessing if you used the same amount of regular playback & menu scanning, maybe the RH10 would last about 1/3 longer. These are all estimates just based on my experience for one week w/ the DH10P.

Also, don't think the DH10P will feel like some HEAVY metal device or anything, which was what I expected based on someone else's description. The metal is a light metal, but nevertheless, the RH10's face is some kind of tough plastic, and when the RH10 opens it's a very thin top opening up, whereas the DH10P is like the NH900 where it feels like the whole body splits in half (not quite the case, but it is moreso than the RH10).

Let me know how things go.

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where did you get your dh10p bluraja?

What do you do with the battery since it's almost a internal one? Do you charge it every night? Is there anything wrong with that?

I got mine for the low price of $230 (USD) at Etronics.com... they even offer a 2-year extended warranty for like another $30. An incredible deal if you ask me.

As far as the battery charging (and well-put calling it almost an internal one)... Here's my solution:

1) I bought an extra battery and have that charged.

2) I ordered a 2nd DH10P a)because of the great price, b)to have a 2nd charge cradle... this way I'll have a cradle at WORK (as well as home) when using it (which is also super-cool because you can see the screen REALLY well in the cradle (as in the pic I showed earlier in this thread), plus the screen never 'times out' when in the cradle.

See? There's a solution for every problem... just not a cheap solution, but at least I'll have a spare unit should my clumsy hands ever drop her on concrete.

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lol. Not so many bucks in my pockets , so... where did you buy the extra battery?

These batteries are rather expensive (like $35-$50)... I think I got mine from Ebay for like $25 or $30... I bought it a long time ago as an extra for my EH1, and never even used the extra battery.

One thing about these batteries is they charge up REAL fast... so there really isn't any "overnight" charging as you inquired. I'd say 40min. to an hour tops.

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I got mine for the low price of $230 (USD) at Etronics.com... they even offer a 2-year extended warranty for like another $30. An incredible deal if you ask me.

Blueraja, I thought that you purchased the DH10P from audiocubes? Were you able to return the first the defective one?

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Blueraja, I thought that you purchased the DH10P from audiocubes? Were you able to return the first the defective one?

I shelled out over $500 to get a BLACK one from Audiocubes... it came defective; the camera was messed up. Doesn't surprise me THAT much considering it came in a PAPER BAG! (with the original box for the unit inside, of course).

At any rate, they said they will take it back and I shipped it out, so hopefully I'll get refunded... in the meantime, I had fallen in love w/ the unit so much from those first few minutes I had to get one, and for QUITE A FRACTION of what I paid at AC.

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I have rh-10 an dh-10p.

to my ears, dh10p sound better than rh-10.

dH-10P takes good photos but only in day light because Sony didn't add a real flash light (why ? one more Sony missed it!)

Dh-10p with real flash light, 2Mega pixels ( no more is needed for 10x15cm impressions or computer screen viewer), 3x integated zoom, video(mpeg4 or mpeg2 SQ quality is possible at 0.7MB/s)and micro input, would be the perfect machine!!

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Dh-10p with real flash light, 2Mega pixels ( no more is needed for 10x15cm impressions or computer screen viewer), 3x integated zoom, video(mpeg4 or mpeg2 SQ quality is possible at 0.7MB/s)and micro input, would be the perfect machine!!

:rolleyes: Dream on... we all do.

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Two more questions Blueraja: What's the download button for in the dh10p? and does the north american model (the dh10p you got from etronics) comes with a LCD remote? What about the short usb cable?

thanks again mate

Not sure how many USB cables the US model comes with - but no lcd remote. The download button is for downloading songs from Simple Burner with one touch.

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Checking the Supplied Accessories

pg.10 (US Model)

  • AC power adaptor
  • Remote control (RM-MC60)
  • USB cradle
  • Earphones
  • Dedicated USB cable
  • LIP-4WM Lithium-ion rechargeable battery
  • Rechargeable battery case
  • Carrying pouch
  • Ferite core
  • CD-ROM
  • Operating Instructions

What about the short usb cable?

Only one is supplied, approx. 130cm ~

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can these units shut off the display light; so as to conserve battery life? that is, do you have to have the display light on? i could use one more personal Hi-MD unit just for banging around.

"Banging around"?? I hope you're not serious... if you want one to bang around, I'd buy a cheaper model.

But anyway to answer your question, the display screen actually TIMES OUT after 30 seconds COMPLETELY (blank screen). I have found no way to alter this, but anyway, that should answer your question.

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thanks a lot, blueraja. yes that answers my question.

my piano student was over and saw your pic and said "Mystery Men" ? i guess she is referring to the pic & the movie. she is gonna let me borrow the movie this weekend.

oh, and by the way, my Hi-MD900 really sounds and does great going into my NEW (Sima SFX-9 Vedeo Effects Mixer). (Aux-in, that is.

i am ready to take it on the road.

::!!

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thanks a lot, blueraja. yes that answers my question.

my piano student was over and saw your pic and said "Mystery Men" ? i guess she is referring to the pic & the movie. she is gonna let me borrow the movie this weekend.

oh, and by the way, my Hi-MD900 really sounds and does great going into my NEW (Sima SFX-9 Vedeo Effects Mixer). (Aux-in, that is.

i am ready to take it on the road.

::!!

Cool... the NH900 sounds good no matter what you plug it into :D

And most people think I'm Indian based on the name, lol... Yeah, The Blue Raja is a misfit fork-flinging super hero from the movie Mystery Men.

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I think most Sony MD units have the option to have the backlight on, off, or auto. The auto setting seems to turn off the backlight as soon as the titles completely scroll across the screen.

By the way, it's good to hear from you again Ray! :D

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I think most Sony MD units have the option to have the backlight on, off, or auto. The auto setting seems to turn off the backlight as soon as the titles completely scroll across the screen.

By the way, it's good to hear from you again Ray! :D

thaks (culp4684); nice to be here in a semi-cosmic state; i am paranoid over battery life and over extended backlights.

and i own soo many units; and with an old dementured memory, i can't remember what unit does what; i actually have to carry a bunch or "Manuals" in my back-pack; sack no good, would use fanny pack; stack can't be made though.

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