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Interesting question. I spotted these a while back, and there are obviously crates of them at this one company. They don't show anywhere on the minidisc.org equipment browser (please correct me if I'm wrong) but they look like reasonably featured units. They seem to change hands under $30 so why not give it a whirl?

There seem to be a fair number of HiMD units (and NetMD too) available on ebay.co.uk Problem is, most of them refuse to ship outside the UK. How to educate these sellers that there is a worldwide market out there? I was ok, I picked up a used NH700 (from a private seller) for about $50 using a relative's account. There is one company that is selling what *looks* like lots of them as a boxed item (I am guessing, they have disclaimers saying unit is B+ whatever that means), for $90 or so. So I guess the diehards here need to make friends with the Brit members of our forum........ Just thought you'd like to know.

What do you see every time you go to the movies? A reiteration of the Dolby patent. The movie lobby is the big bucks here, Sony Pictures or not - I am betting that Dolby wouldn't move an inch.

I think LP2 + Type-S does it for you, on the pre-HiMD units. I fix most of my sound recordings up while they are wave files, including normalizing (ie increasing gain) before I ever show them to SS. CD's direct to LP2 sound amazing. And it's all in the playback Codec, IMO.

I personally wouldn't bother, stick to SP. You need to do some tests, but even digital in may not sound that great. I think SS probably does the best job of coding (before it ever gets to the MD).

So i need the log. Please zip it and attach to a PM. If that doesn't work, I will give you my email. Sorry, late out the door, will check later.

Then you have a bit of a problem, I strongly suspect. Can anyone else with Vista confirm or deny that this system DLL is installed? (remember on Vista the system may be laid out a bit different since it doesnt really use drive letters except as an external option). What u mean by "immediately"? Before the blue "Sonic Stage 4.3 CP" thingy? Or exactly when?

Yup, as remarked in many places, SP is basically broadcast quality. Once you get Sonic Stage up, you will find that for Headphone listening, LP2 (with your Type-S playback in the N10) is great. Just not a format to record or save things in. Good to copy music you have in high quality to MD, but it's not an archival format.

This may sound really odd, but do you have a new printer? Do you have a default printer? I just looked at my XP version and it is showing some but not all of the errors you have. In particular the last one. There's a misunderstanding a couple of posts back - The problem is NOT that there is anything wrong with TFSWAPI.DLL The problem appears to be that it's not being found! Odd, because TFSWAPI.DLL on my system is in the Windows system directory. We are back to wondering if Microsoft's latest updates are getting rid of this file. Can you check and see if it's there (in XP its at C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\TFSWAPI.DLL even if you didn't install SS)

Read my modified post. DLA has something to do with Sonic (not Sony) which is buried somewhere in this large piece of software. DLA stands for Drive Letter Access. I don't think pccillin or other virus checkers are responsible. It's been noted here before that Sonic's DLA was underneath some other weird problem. Does SonicStage actually boot, or are you just trying to start the program (when it crashes)?

For screen shots, pls use Paint and select JPG, or all our connections will die trying to download this! NTDLL is "just" Windows itself DLAAPI_W.DLL sounds interesting, but in fact I get the same error on working version on XP. However TFSWAPI.DLL sounds like the culprit as that one gets successfully loaded here. **** whoops I'm wrong **** (bad explanation deleted) **** We are back to Sonic DLA (Drive Letter Access) which a number of products use. Of course in Vista the way that drive letter are used is entirely optional. You might, as a first attempt, try putting everything to do with Sonic Stage on a drive that has a letter name.

If it happened recently (and was fine until now), sounds like Automatic Updates may be the source of this. A nightmare. I don't have Vista, so someone should send me the complete log (from depends) up to where it crashes, and I'll try to interpret it.

But SS *is* the OpenMG Jukebox!!!!!!! (just an update of it, I hasten to add). The downloads seem to indicate that the NetMD drivers are what is reqd for hooking up computer.

Hands up everyone who's not here.......!!?!?!?!?

I looked at the 980's manual. Seems you are supposed to run the OpenMG Jukebox install before hooking it up. To find it, go to the downloads section in this forum, and look under "drivers". You will see JB980 leap out at you. The name of the zip file is OpenMG_Jukebox_NetMD_Drivers.zip. I am not 100% sure what you do with it, but I strongly suspect if you install this BEFORE SonicStage 4.3 you will be alright. If that's a problem you can try putting it over the top of SS but in case all your existing library gets wiped out you better back up a lot of stuff. I would be inclined to install this software to another computer (since I have plenty) and see if I can find the right driver to copy to wherever its supposed to be under SS 4.3. Someone here will explain exactly where to put it if there is an existing, functioning SS installation on your machine. P.S. It may be as simple as copying NETMDUSB.SYS and NETMDUSB.INF from the zip file to C:\Program Files\Sony\Personal Audio Driver

That warning is quite normal even on installed version 4.3 under XP. Don't worry about it. If you sort the modules (used by omgjbox.exe) by Version Number, by clicking on the column marked "File Ver ^" you will see all the SS modules together, all numbered 4.3.1.14020 (at least on mine, you might have an update). Here is what the list looks like (the left hand part of the display). Are any of the lines in your display different (eg red)? Assuming not, let's see what happens if we start the program by pressing function key F7. Accept the defaults by pressing OK. There are some errors (even in a working version of SS) but lots of useful information. When the program loads it adds lots of other modules it needs. You will see many of them. Your mission is to figure out what errors you see in the log around the time you find the error that stops you doing what you want.

I haven't actually suffered this one, but here's my understanding of what you will have to do (and what I would probably do if I was considering switching machines). ON THE OLD MACHINE: either a. save everything as .WAV files (this may have to be done album by album, not sure) b. run the Sonc Stage File Conversion Tool which effectively decrypts all your OpenMG files. Good idea to run this once a month on general principles then worst case your stuff (except the last month) is unencrypted. The trick is to uncheck the box that appears after it looked at all the files. Patience! It will now scan them all again. Once you have either or both of these collections of unencrypted files, you should be able to suck them in from the new SS. If you cannot run the old machine, you may be in DDD (deep doggy doo). Did I get this right, dear fellow-sufferers? Stephen

Sounds like an Avrin-question. My guess is you need NETMDUSB.SYS from somewhere. Mine has a date of 08/08/02 and is 39K long. Did the 4.3 install have that anywhere to be seen?

That could be something dumb like a printer. Probably best to email me something. Start with a PM and I will exchange real email addresses with you. Let's see if I can partially reproduce your setup. I don't have vista running but I do have 4.3 SS.

Hahaha I think they are both right, your unit was trying to access this disk in NetMD mode, reset the default to HiMD. Menu->Options->Disc Mode. (NOT the Record Mode, which is a separate thingy). I think something like this happened to me exactly once. When you hear that endless seeking, it's probably a great idea to stop the machine doing anything at all. I actually ended up pulling out the battery. It was a "regular" disk, so then I took it over to the deck, where I erased all the tracks from it. Can't do that on a 1GB disc, can we? Kyle's idea of writing something random to it that is not music sounds just the ticket. Which reminds me, Kyle, maybe it's time to dig into that whole issue...... Stephen

You can probably get a 3V adaptor in any drugstore - I bought 2 at 14$ apiece. Ask the sender to discard the adapter as it will cut down on postage costs. (the adaptors were this one... I took the precaution of supergluing it to 3V after purchase!) http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/...mp;ProductTab=3 The other thing you can do is go to the individual ebay sites around the world; you will find lots more stock, but you will also have to convince the seller to ship to N. America.

How about this one http://cgi.ebay.ca/Sony-Net-MD-Walkman-MZ-...1QQcmdZViewItem or this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...em=260276537274

There are way too many to list unless I understand your constraints. If you search Ebay you will find dozens of the ones I listed (not always obvious unless you look at the details of each listing). 1. do you need USB? 2. do you need radio? 3. do you need MDLP? My suggestion: look in the equipment browser, they are arranged in time order. First Sony added MDLP. At a certain point in time, Sony put USB in everything. At some time after that, they introduced Type-S for LP2 (probably LP4 as well but I don't care). I think it was in that order but even if i got it wrong, you get the idea. E-anything is a player only. I'd be happy to advise you offline, send me a PM. Cheers

Yep, NF810, or NF610, or their equivalents without the radio - N710 and N510. When you say NetMD, I assume you mean you want USB? There are lots from the pre-USB era such as R90/91 that have the Mega Bass along with the other features you requested. Hope this helps Stephen

OK, roll it back a ways..... can some Vista afficionado tell us, isn't that message just a good old GPF? Ie something crashed or couldn't be found. If so, which? IF it is "couldn't be found" (my specialty as it happens), try downloading depends.exe from MSDN. You can find depends here: http://www.dependencywalker.com/ This should give clues on missing modules. If the crash was a simple ERROR (gpf) try to identify the module in question and whether it has changed recently. One way or another, given that OP seems to imply it worked before (and we know it supposed to work on Vista), now it's time to try rolling back to the last system restore point (or the one before that....., etc etc etc). Presumably something got automatically updated in a way that SS didn't appreciate.