RH10 review/comments + RH10 vs. NH900 pictorial!

[IdiotSavant]

I know a lot of people on this board have a RH10 but given that there's only one other review posted in this forum I figured I'd go and do a review/comments of my impressions of the RH10. (Being as I take so much information from this place yet never contribute.)

I'm going to try to focus particularly on things that surprised me about the unit (either because nobody's written about them, or because I'd missed them.)

The construction of the unit Just to reiterate, the backlit screen is absolutely beautiful - you really have to see it to believe it! Though it's great in the dark, the downside is that if you're out and about on a really bright day then it's not very easy to read and you'll probably have to shadow it with your hand. The coating on the front seems to be more durable than people are making out. Admittedly I did manage to scratch it within a minute of it being out of the box by knocking a MD against it, but it's not been scuffed or scratched in any other way yet and I've walked over 25 miles with the thing in my pocket. It really is impossible to touch the thing without getting fingerprints on it (thanks to its glossy surface.) The lid is different in design to any of the previous generation units. Rather than the edge of the lid meeting the edge of the body when it's closed (which led to those notorious gaps in a lot of pre-Hi-MD models) the area into which the lid locks is recessed behind the silver sides and sunk slightly. This means there's no gap visible whatsoever and it really is a great improvement on previous designs. The lid to the battery compartment is a lot harder to slide open than on previous models - you have to apply a lot more force to open it, and you have to push harder against it to get it in line with the unit so that it can be slid closed. While this may make it more secure, it gives me the feeling that it could end up getting broken due to someone applying too much force when trying to close it. The external battery case doesn't seem as well-designed as previously. One of the terminals is located towards edge of the unit, while one is located towards the middle, meaning that the hole into which the case screws is about a third the way along the side of the unit. Although there are 3 plastic struts on the battery compartment (equally spaced to spread the load evenly over the side of the unit) it doesn't seem like a great idea having the strain of the battery compartment off-centre - I tried editing on the unit with the battery case attached and felt like I was going to break it. To open the USB jack there's a cover which must be slid (which occludes the DC in jack when the USB is open.) This is actually very easy to use and feels a heck of a lot more secure than using the rubber cover to open the USB jack (which I always felt was getting ready to rip off.) I had hoped that the RH10 might be able to use the stand which came with my NH900 but alas, as it's the European model there's no jack at all for connecting to a stand. The buttons on the front of the unit are great. Though they're plastic, they may well be the most easy to use ones I've come across so far on a unit - each has its own identity and gives a very reassuring click when pushed. The jog dial doesn't slip at all, clicking into place each time it's turned and also never slipping when it's being pushed. The record/track mark and pause buttons are actually recessed into the face of the unit a little, with the record button not protruding as much as the pause button (meaning you can't accidentally knock it during playback and enter a track mark.) I am a little curious to know just why Sony made the stop button twice the size of the Menu button (surely the menu button is used more?) Also having to hold down the menu button for two seconds in order to specify the main play mode is far more difficult than simply pushing the menu button once on the NH900 (why didn't they stick to the separate menu and search buttons?) In size the unit is almost identical to the NH-900, but a touch smaller. The new orientation of the unit is wonderful. The headphone jack mounted at the top means that the unit can be held without it interfering. It also works out great for connecting the unit to Hi-Fi as you don't need to snake the power and phono leads around the unit, but can just run them straight. (The phono lead will connect to the headphone jack at the top, while the L-shaped plug of the power adaptor will plug into the side with the lead running straight.) I actually find the remote to be more useful than on previous models as it does away with the silly play/pause/fast forward/rewind slider and keeps all the buttons simple. (It's easier to tap the skip forward button on this remote a few times than to repeatedly slide the slider in that direction on the old remotes.) However if not having a LCD display on the remote is a big issue for anyone, the standard backlit remote (that comes with the NH900, etc.) also works on the RH10.

On MP3 playback

After doing some listening tests with my modest Shure E2cs I can safely agree with everyone else that there is a big problem with the MP3 playback - it's not that I've noticed any detail lost, but the reduction in volume in the treble region gives the impression of reduced clarity. To put the MP3 problem in context it's far easier to tell the difference between MP3 and any other mode than it is to tell the difference between LP2 and Hi-SP. (I know a lot of people can't tell the difference between them.) The problem with MP3s can easily be overcome by fiddling with the EQ settings, and it sounds absolutely fine. While it might sound annoying having to adjust the EQ every time you switch between playing MP3 and ATRAC, if - like me - your discs will only contain either MP3s or ATRAC then the disc memory (assuming you apply the hack) will eliminate most of the switching you'll have to do. [Edit: or it would if it worked! Can't believe I missed that earlier The disc memory doesn't remember the EQ settings for me, but this is a hacked Euro RH10 after all...] It looks like the problem with MP3 playback is indeed on the unit and not any kind of filter applied by Sonic Stage on transferring MP3s - I played a few MP3s of tracks from the RH10 through my PC using Sonic Stage and was unable to spot the glaring difference (which is there when listening to the same tracks directly from the unit.) MP3s actually transfer slower than I thought they would. While there's no doubt that it's faster than ATRAC, it's still slower than I thought (maybe 4 minutes to transfer 50MB worth of files?) While that's still plenty fast enough it surprised me a little, that's all. (I'm fairly sure this is due to the write speed of Hi-MDs and not Sonic Stage as I get similar times when copying and pasting other files onto the disc.)

On Recording/Editing

To start recording hold record and push play, to start recording in paused mode hold pause and push record; what could be simpler? (I find recording a lot easier to initiate now that the record slider has been done away with.) No recording/editing bugs noted in this unit… but there's still time. Editing tracks is a piece of cake (as always.) However, when in rehearsal mode the jog dial operates counter-intuitively (at least to me); pressing up backtracks the divide point while pressing down moves it forwards. My unit came with the character display problem where during track name edit, some of the characters of the alphabet aren't visible. While this is annoying, the missing characters can still be selected - you just have to go off screen. (And let's face it, how hard is it to infer where the character's going to be if you know your alphabet?)

On PC Connection

There is one very annoying feature of the RH10 (though I imagine some people might like this) whereby the battery is charged whenever the unit is connected to the PC. (I don't like this as I prefer to discharge a battery completely before recharging it.) Although I can't say anything for definite yet, it seems that this 'confuses' the battery indicator RH10 and makes it think that the battery has more charge than it really does, causing it to suddenly drop out sometimes. (Though I guess it makes a change from the battery indicators on previous units where they've been flashing empty for days on end.) I guess this could be useful if you connect the unit to the PC for a significant amount of time each day (as it means you might get away with never having to charge the thing) but I'm not sure who'd do that. (It's a recorder Sony, not an MP3 player!) That said it is very nice to be able to connect the unit to the PC without additional power connections. (Though I realize this was also the case on first generation Hi-MD units.) With Sonic Stage 3.2 just released, being able to limitlessly upload tracks of your own recording is fantastic. However, it's not without its bugs. Not only does the transfer from Hi-MD to Sonic Stage frequently cop out and come up with transfer errors (reminiscent of the frequent transfer errors I used to get when using OMG jukebox to transfer files to a MDLP unit using a PC with a 333MHz processor) but some of the recorded ATRAC files seem 'corrupted' - I've recorded several files where they'll transfer to the PC in ATRAC form perfectly fine, but then when they're converted to WAV (either by Sonic Stage or Hi-MD renderer) they become truncated following lengths of silence which occur within the tracks. I do suspect these are software issues though, rather than it being an issue with the unit.That's it. I hope my comments prove useful to someone!

Now for the pictorial...

...enjoy!

The two units side by side. Note that the battery compartment for the RH10 is slightly larger than the one for the NH900, and the RH10's remote is smaller than that of the NH900.

Both units with the battery compartments attached - different orientations to match the different sides on which the power supply is.

...just for the sake of completeness

The side of the units for the power supply. USB Jack closed on the RH10.

As above but with the USB jack open on the RH10, occluding the DC jack.

The side of the unit into which the battery slots (though it's not visible on the NH900 thanks to my blurry photography.) Fortunately this one does show the different lid styles of the two - on the NH900 you can see where the lid meets the body of the unit while this is not visible on the RH10 as the edge of the lid is somewhere behind the silver side.

The side with the catch for opening the unit. I find the bigger catch on the RH10 easier to use.

The side with the audio jacks, the hold switch and - for the NH900 - the USB jack. There's an almost identical arrangement on both, but this picture shows off quite nicely how the RH10 is just a touch sleeker than the NH900.

The NH900 connected to my Hi-Fi and to the mains - the DC jack and phono out aren't mounted in an especially convenient manner (as I noted earlier.)

The RH10 connected to the Hi-Fi - a much more sensible arrangement (assuming the wires are coming away from the wall) but I feel this change was probably made more because it's the standard orientation on things like iPods.

Both units open.

Same thing again, but from a higher angle (to get a better view of the lid.)

Both units closed. Note how a thin strip around the outside of the RH10 is no longer visible (as it's locked in behind the silver sides of the unit.)

I do apologise for the units appearing dull, but my photography skills are limited and using the flash just created a big white reflection on the RH10.. so this seemed the best way to do things.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed it!

Edited August 9, 2005 by IdiotSavant

[mrsoul]

I know a lot of people on this board have a RH10 but given that there's only one other review posted in this forum I figured I'd go and do a review/comments of my impressions of the RH10. (Being as I take so much information from this place yet never contribute.)

On PC Connection

[*] There is one very annoying feature of the RH10 (though I imagine some people might like this) whereby the battery is charged whenever the unit is connected to the PC. (I don't like this as I prefer to discharge a battery completely before recharging it.) Although I can't say anything for definite yet, it seems that this 'confuses' the battery indicator RH10 and makes it think that the battery has more charge than it really does, causing it to suddenly drop out sometimes. (Though I guess it makes a change from the battery indicators on previous units where they've been flashing empty for days on end.) I guess this could be useful if you connect the unit to the PC for a significant amount of time each day (as it means you might get away with never having to charge the thing) but I'm not sure who'd do that. (It's a recorder Sony, not an MP3 player!)

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Great review, thanks for taking the time. I have enjoyed my RH10 and the RH910. The RH910 actually serves as my music player at work in my office. I have a 2.1 Polk Audio set with woofer and playing back via USB at work in Hi-LP sounds great and I really like not having to worry about charging the battery if I want to throw it in the car on the way home. It's really the only time I enjoy Hi-Lp. I think playing back via SS actually sounds better than over the speakers. I know there's no logical explanation for that but it's what I perceive. Really, it's why I bought the RH910: to be a backup in tandem when recording live with my RH10 and to have a portable music player I can use at work and on the road without having to worry about the RH10 getting a little banged around. Anyways, the no interest for 12 months from Sony Style was too good to pass up So, long story short, there are people like me who enjoy having a Hi-MD that is primarily a music player. It keep me from having to use the office computer for saving massive amounts of entertainment files.

Again, thanks for the review and enjoy your RH10.

[The Low Volta]

RH10 comments/minireview, A few things worth noting...

if this is a 'mini'-review... I'm wondering what a full-grown one would look like

thanks for the thorough commentary...nice read!

[IdiotSavant]

So, long story short, there are people like me who enjoy having a Hi-MD that is primarily a music player.  It keep me from having to use the office computer for saving massive amounts of entertainment files.

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Ah yes, I use mine for playback most of the time truth be told. But you have to record what you playback vs. a MP3 player, was what I meant.

if this is a 'mini'-review... I'm wondering what a full-grown one would look like

thanks for the thorough commentary...nice read!

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Well I didn't quite feel like calling it a review because I only really covered the important stuff that MD users would be interested in - nothing for the non-initiated.

That said, I can't honestly see why I thought to do that given I was posting on MDCF.. hmm...

[lipanz]

this what people want to hear.. the problem found we u are using a device..nice review ! worth spending minutes to read it !

[The Low Volta]

fun and informational pictorial idiotsavant... thumbs up

[IdiotSavant]

fun and informational pictorial idiotsavant... thumbs up

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Thanks

But no need to be formal... 'idiot' will do

[Christopher]

This is excellent, I will try and get it on the front page soon. I appreciate your contribution.

[veezhun]

On PC Connection

[*] There is one very annoying feature of the RH10 (though I imagine some people might like this) whereby the battery is charged whenever the unit is connected to the PC. (I don't like this as I prefer to discharge a battery completely before recharging it.) Although I can't say anything for definite yet, it seems that this 'confuses' the battery indicator RH10 and makes it think that the battery has more charge than it really does, causing it to suddenly drop out sometimes.

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while connected to the PC via USB, you can remove the battery.. the unit gets the power from the USB port...

this will help you to discharge the battery fully

cheers

[IdiotSavant]

This is excellent, I will try and get it on the front page soon. I appreciate your contribution.

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Wow, thanks Kurisu!

while connected to the PC via USB, you can remove the battery.. the unit gets the power from the USB port...

this will help you to discharge the battery fully

cheers

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That's very true, but do you really want to have to take the battery out every time you connect the unit to the PC? Given that new batteries are less than a tenner I'm happy to just leave them in for the sake of ease.

Truth be told though, in the couple of weeks that I've had this thing I've only had the battery die once (when I was doing a lot of editing on the unit) due to all my PC use with the unit, so while it is detrimental in the long term... in the short term I can see how it could be quite useful (assuming you're not playing or recording for an excessive amount of time each day and you connect to the PC a lot.)

[AMPlitude]

one helluva review

[genghisbunny]

A great review. I can't wait for tomorrow night when I get my own, special delivery from the USA - My parents are bringing one back with them!

(Aussies have to go to great lengths to get decent, new MD stuff - on the plus side, I only pay 4.75AUD [3.70 USD] for a Hi-MD, which seems to be cheaper than they are over there judging by web sources)

I might post a review for mine myself, to give an Australian (although born in US) perspective on them.

Edited August 17, 2005 by genghisbunny

[tasdisr]

Great review!! I just received my RH10 and so far I love it. The OLED display is great and a lot easier on these old eyes. It is a great addition to the NH900 and

MZ-N707 that I have.

[ZosoIV]

Nice review! I'm still debating whether to get the RH10 or the older NH1. What do you guys think?

[IdiotSavant]

Nice review! I'm still debating whether to get the RH10 or the older NH1. What do you guys think?

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Well I got the RH10 so I'm biased

Basically I'd say the NH1 beats the RH10, aside from 3 points:

1. RH10 is cheaper

2. RH10 has several line OLED display (with the NH1 you only get a 1-line display on the unit, but the remote is highly functional and backlit)

3. RH10 supports direct MP3 playback

Just decide whether those three things matter to you. If they don't, then go for the NH1.

I'd say that the main advantages the NH1 has are:

1. A proper line out

2. A better build quality and a smaller size

3. Ability to record in Net-MD mode as well as Hi-MD mode (RH10 only supports Hi-MD mode and codecs.)

[acaber]

Hi,

Congralutations for your nice review !

I'am debating to choice between NH900 or the new RH10

for live recordings, then loading and burning to CD.

Is quality the same ?

Can you help me ?

Thank so much

ACABER (France)

[IdiotSavant]

Hi,

Congralutations for your nice review !

I'am debating to choice between NH900 or the new RH10

for live recordings, then loading and burning to CD.

Is quality the same ?

Can you help me ?

Thank so much

ACABER  (France)

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Well I hate to disappoint, but I don't do any live recordings by mic. I would assume that the RH10 would be slightly better quality as it's a new model so the firmware would be a bit more recent, but I doubt there'd be much in it.

If you're thinking of doing a lot of live recording, I'd strongly suggest considering getting the NH900 as it allows you to record in MD mode using NetMD bitrates (vs. the RH10 which only allows you to use Hi-MD bitrates) which would give you more flexibility. (Though I don't know for sure whether you can upload recordings made in MD mode.. I've never tried.)

[The Low Volta]

legacy MD mode recordings cannot be uploaded through USB and have no real use except for making recordings that are playable on older equipment and it is also the only way to obtain real SP (which isn't really that important unless you have some very good older equipment like a shelve-unit to play the discs back)

for recording I would indeed consider the two models you mentioned (the NH900 and the RH10) but I would add something... the two things to choose between (IMHO) should be:

• NH900 + RM-MC40ELK: this combination provides you with a very good recorder (NH900) the biggest drawback of which, the non-backlit display on the recorder, can be compensated with the RM-MC40ELK. The three line backlit remote is a very nice addition as it can show you recording levels in dark situations and is very easy to use.
• RH10 (Japanese import or + RM-MC40ELK?): the RH10 is a very good recorder as well and perhaps even better looking because of the OLED display. But that display has some real use too: it kinda eliminates the need for an RM-MC40ELK remote, as the unit itself can provide all info in the dark. Not to say that a remote could be handy, so I would either get a Japanese import (with the LCD-remote in stead of the N-Am non-LCD one) or the N-Am/European version but with an extra RM-MC40ELK remote. If you have used MD before and really do not think an LCD-display on the remote matters to you, you can just buy the N-Am or European RH10 of course, as it does work by itself for recording... but I myself use it a lot. BTW, I do not think the Japanese import remote will show rec levels (please correct me if I'm wrong) so it would only be handy for playback (like the RM-MC38EL that came with my NH900) and not really for recording.

these are just my ideas... I use the NH900/RM-MC40ELK combo and it works very well, but I couldn't choose an RH10, as the second gen wasn't released at the time I spent my money. If I had to invest again, I would probably go for an RH10 + RM-MC40ELK or even for a beautiful colored RH10 and matched remote import from Japan... but with recording in mind, I guess the RM-MC40ELK's usefulness would win over beauty

if you can get an NH900 for little money, do not hesitate! if you can't... go for the RH10...

hope this helps

[Sparky191]

Great review. Appreciate it. I have a NH700 but the hassle of having my music as MP3 and ATRAC files would make me consider upgrading to the RH10. I mainly use the MH700 for recording, as I have another MP3 player.

Edited September 5, 2005 by Sparky191

[Human]

Well I got the RH10 so I'm biased

Basically I'd say the NH1 beats the RH10, aside from 3 points:

1. RH10 is cheaper

2. RH10 has several line OLED display (with the NH1 you only get a 1-line display on the unit, but the remote is highly functional and backlit)

3. RH10 supports direct MP3 playback

Just decide whether those three things matter to you. If they don't, then go for the NH1.

I'd say that the main advantages the NH1 has are:

1. A proper line out

2. A better build quality and a smaller size

3. Ability to record in Net-MD mode as well as Hi-MD mode (RH10 only supports Hi-MD mode and codecs.)

IdiotSavant => super review =like the pic - it is helpful => ThanK U.

I have a question [..if U know] - the NH-1 has a proper "line out" -- do U know if is possible on NH-1 to record from any source, like on RH-10 ? ...is there a proper or semi proper (dissent) "line-in" on NH-1.

I'm looking for a portable MD or Hi-MD unit to be able to record radio talk shows and to play back mostly via good quality mini speakers or via regular stereo.

Also i have a Sony MDS-JE 470 deck and almost 70 regular discs (74 and 80 minutes) some with music, most with radio talk shows recorded in LP-2 and LP-4 , many of them only 30- 60- % full and i like to join some of them to one MD or Hi-MD disc using portable MD.

I do not plan to use computer for any recording, editing ( i do not have any music on my comp) - i like to use portable MD /or Hi-MD only as it is, and connect to out-side source, like radio , CD player to copy my CDs, or to my MD deck.

I looked for many hours on the web to find out if NH-1 has proper 'line-in', or at least some kind of 'line-in' that will give good quality recording from any source (but not computer).

And i also like to find out if mini-discs made on my Sony MDS-JE 470 deck will play on RH-10 or on NH-1...if any one of U know Please let me know.

I guess eventually i can fire up e-mail with that question to Sony Canada, {where i live}.

I found out on AudioCubes web site that Sharp IM-DR80 NetMD MiniDisc Recorder has a Speaker outputs, but don't have info yet if it has a line-in.

Any-way Thank U for any more infos if any of U can share it with me .

P.S. -- if it's OK i like to include an info details on that Sharp unit - maybe some of U pros can figure it out if this will be good unit for me according to my needs and what the unit has and can do. TNXs

Sharp IM-DR80 NetMD MiniDisc Recorder.

Features

Sharp IM-DR80 is Sharp's 2003 NetMD unit from the Auvi line, a successor to MD-DR7. Unit is the first Auvi featuring NetMD. Up to 50x transferring through NetMD is possible, making it possible to transfer a 3-minute song in 5 seconds in LP4, according to Sharp's Press Release. Unit also comes with an international universal power adaptor for all regions 100~240V.

NetMD

24 bit ATRAC

Mobile 1-bit Digital Amp

4-pole headphone plugs

"Top-open" disc insertion

One-touch disc ejection

No LCD screen on main unit

LCD remote with Chinese support & REC button

Charging cradle with LCD screen, editing functions and Line &

Speaker outputs

Favorite tunes function

Group Function

Trace back and group-up recording functions

Synchronized recording

ALC [Automatic Level Control] option for recording

On-the-fly manual recording level adjustment

Auto T-MARKing at fixed intervals of 3, 5 and 10 minutes

Alarm function [adjustable to 1-99 min]

Playback speed control

[-30%/-20%/-10%/+5%/+15%]

Introduction playback

3 step X-BASS Boost and Treble adjustments

40/80/160 second anti-shock memory

Stylish Auvi recharging cradle with LCD screen

Headphone output: 8mW+8mW (32 Ohms)

Line output: 125mV (-12dB / 10K Ohms)

Specifications

Max playback time (SP/LP2/LP4): 80 / 103 / 122 hours

Max record time (SP/LP2/LP4): 20 / 30.5 / 40 hours

Recharge time: 3.5 hours [%90] / 5.5 hours [full]

Dimensions: 80.1 (W) x 72.6 (H) x 16.6 (D) mm

Weight: 120 gr. [including NiH battery]

Accessories

LCD stick remote, headphone, LCD charging cradle, NiH cell, International [100-240V] AC adapter, AA cell case, carrying case, instruction manual, warranty card, registration card, Beatjam CD, BeatJam manual, BeatJam registration card.

Colors available: Silver / Red / Black

[Sparky191]

"I looked for many hours".... seriously, and you found nothing. What on earth were you doing????? Maybe you just don't understand any of it.

Did a search on google for "NH-1" and the very first link is this one.

http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-NH1.html

Under connectors its says

In: line, mic, optical. Data: USB. Out: line/headphone.

# Records to Hi-MD (1GB) blanks and normal MD blanks reformatted to 300MB.

# Plays Hi-MD and original-MD disks.

I did a google search on "NH-1 line-in" the very first link is this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B...2931965-0519116

Record from multiple sources: USB-in / Mic-in / Analogue-in / Digital-in

USB-in (USB 1.1), Digital-in, Analogue-in, MIC-in, DC-in 6V (on cradle only) and Line-out function

I did a search on "NH-1 line out and got this. http://forums.minidisc.org/lofiversion/index.php/t10343.html

That took 3 mins.

Edited November 13, 2005 by Sparky191

[Human]

"I looked for many hours".... seriously, and you found nothing. What on earth were you doing????? Maybe you just don't understand any of it.

Did a search on google for "NH-1" and the very first link is this one.

http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-NH1.html

Under connectors its says

In: line, mic, optical. Data: USB. Out: line/headphone.

# Records to Hi-MD (1GB) blanks and normal MD blanks reformatted to 300MB.

# Plays Hi-MD and original-MD disks.

I did a google search on "NH-1 line-in" the very first link is this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B...2931965-0519116

Record from multiple sources: USB-in / Mic-in / Analogue-in / Digital-in

USB-in (USB 1.1), Digital-in, Analogue-in, MIC-in, DC-in 6V (on cradle only) and Line-out function

I did a search on "NH-1 line out and got this. http://forums.minidisc.org/lofiversion/index.php/t10343.html

That took 3 mins.

Well-Versed Sparky191

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH

Actually i do not (did not) understand very well all those terms, i was kind of learning as i searched for info....and actually one of the links that You posted i did look at it but i guess i did not understood correctly. ..and maybe i made mistake in saying that i looked for hours ( at NH-1 ) i actually looked last in my search ... for perhaps 1-2 hours...but in any case You are right ...quote:::" Maybe you just don't understand any of it." --- this was the case.

But i'm grateful to You - it makes clear now - so this is the unit that will do what i need.

This link was very informative: http://forums.minidisc.org/lofiversion/index.php/t10343.html

THANK YOU !!

Now i quickly look at Sony Canada and USA web but NH-1 is not really available - one site said (in store only), but it is older model and slim chance i think, some other sites like:: ecoustics.pricegrabber.com - don't have them.

So i think i will have little challenge to find it in USA or Canada.

Found on AudioCubes for $400.00 USD - but not sure if it has english symbols.

1]. Maybe i can ask You Sparky191 to check for me if that Sharp IM-DR80 NetMD MiniDisc has proper "line-in" - from what i can see it has not. But knowing me i might be wrong again

2]. So i guess that even playing the RH-10 via mini portable very high quality speakers will have similar sound quality "limitations" as via regular speakers, - -or not ?- or, it will be similar power "consumption" and sound quality as headphones ?

Once again ThanX Sparky You are indeed Very Well-Versed

Edited November 13, 2005 by Human

[Ghinn]

First off, I completely agree with the review. I have an RH10, and I love it. I've gotten new players whenever the new technology came out. I went from the MZ-E33 to the MZ-R700 to the MZ-N707 and now to the MZ-RH10. The only thing that made me hesitate before buying it was the remote. Even my first MD player, the E33, had an LCD remote, and I knew what it was like to not have an LCD remote, from the R700. Luckily, the Japanese model came with a backlit LCD remote. So, if you know somebody who wants an RH10, but they also want a backlit LCD remote, get the Japanese model. I did, and I haven't once regretted it. I bought it off of eBay, brand new, with buy-it-now from a seller who was located in Japan. Had it in 3 days.

Edited February 14, 2006 by Ghinn

[MtnBkr]

I, too, purchased the RH10 from an ebay "buy-it-now" auction, out of Japan, and received it very quickly. As far as NH1 vs. RH10, they both have their merits. I really like the slim, light, case of the NH1 as well as the line-out. Since there is no Hi-MD deck or head unit, I use the NH1(NH900)/line-out with the home stereo and in the car. NH1 does have a lithium-ion battery and much better remote. I keep the recorder in a protective case and use it via the remote but ... can't use the remote with line-out enabled! The NH1 requires the cradle to charge the battery (no DC in on the recorder) so powering in the car would require the cradle.

The NH900 works very similar to the NH1 but has more lines and a jog-dial which makes it faster to scroll through the tracks. The 900 also has a DC-in!

If size matters, the NH1 wins but it really boils down to features and needs!

[trindadesn]

hi can someone please tell me how i can get the nh1.... in canada.... or well anywhere else.... i had one and it got stolen ...

thanks

[MtnBkr]

nikolai, I purchased the NH1, new, from ebay, out of the States - there are still more listed. I was dinged the taxes and brokerage fees but if you use USPS for delivery, the brokerage fees are kept below $10. There is someone listing a "gold" NH1 (only available in Japan) for a little over $300 but the silver ones go for just over $200USD. Best of luck - I really like the weight & size of the NH1!

[bobt]

hi can someone please tell me how i can get the nh1.... in canada.... or well anywhere else.... i had one and it got stolen ...

thanks

Hi There, You can check in classified on the forum, fraesus had some out of Australia, and may still have some, was good to deal with. PM him and see what happens. You can also try the ebay route, but be careful what you get, I got one and it quit a couple of weeks after I got it, cost $110 to get fixed.

They are a great machine though.

Good luck,

Bob