Sony_Fan Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I had an idea. What if someone started a website where we could all upload music in ATRAC3plus format for us to share with each other. Music has to be between 64kbps and 192kbps. What do you guys think? There are so many MP3 sharing websites and programs, why not start one for ATRAC3plus music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Nice idea ,but I don't think that Sony will allow us to share files publicly over net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Most file sharing apps allow sharing of any file extension. You'd just needed to set up a website to announce the content if you wanted to. It is not illegal per se to share mp3s, atracs or any other file type, its legality depends on the content. Recording and sharing your own voice would be legal, whereas sharing copyrighted material wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutela Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Most file sharing apps allow sharing of any file extension. You'd just needed to set up a website to announce the content if you wanted to. It is not illegal per se to share mp3s, atracs or any other file type, its legality depends on the content. Recording and sharing your own voice would be legal, whereas sharing copyrighted material wouldn't.Except that you MD recorder / SS encrypt ATRACT files adds SCMS and other BS, shame on you Sony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Nice idea ,but I don't think that Sony will allow us to share files publicly over net.How about we don't tell Sony about it and put our ATRAC3plus files in a shared folder. I'm talking about music from CD ripped to ATRAC3plus. The copyrights state that it is illegal to duplicate the music on the CD. Duplicate by definition means an exact copy. Ripping a CD to ATRAC3plus in any bitrate is not a duplicate. A duplicate would be 1441kbps --> copy 1441kbps. We would be sharing files ripped between 64kbps and 192kbps. Those are not exact copies. Just like in the 80's when people were copying CDs to cassettes, no one got in legal trouble for that, because it's not an exact copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) chris G, even though you might have a point there in theory... reality (i.e. all the succesful cases made by music industry big shots against e.g. 14 year old girls sharing MP3s - not 'exact copies' either - over the net using napster or gnutella etc) proves you wrong I'm afraidyou should be able to hear a significant degradation in SQ before you could actually try and use that argument in court I reckon... so perhaps HiLP should be ok just kiddingthe big shots would easily claim that a transparant file is as good as an exact copy as pirating is concerned... don't you think that someone else would already have thought about this if it really would/could work? Edited January 14, 2007 by The Low Volta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 chris G, even though you might have a point there in theory... reality (i.e. all the succesful cases made by music industry big shots against e.g. 14 year old girls sharing MP3s - not 'exact copies' either - over the net using napster or gnutella etc) proves you wrong I'm afraidyou should be able to hear a significant degradation in SQ before you could actually try and use that argument in court I reckon... so perhaps HiLP should be ok just kiddingthe big shots would easily claim that a transparant file is as good as an exact copy as pirating is concerned... don't you think that someone else would already have thought about this if it really would/could work?Well then the law should be re-written and state that only CD duplicates of equal bitrates is illegal. I do have one question, why didn't the creators of MP3 put such restrictions on it like Sony does with ATRAC. Look at the outcome: MP3 is very popular, ATRAC not very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Well then the law should be re-written and state that only CD duplicates of equal bitrates is illegalI bet that would be highly supported by the music industry's lobby groups and for a quick guide to the MP3 development history have a read overhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Except that you MD recorder / SS encrypt ATRACT files adds SCMS and other BS, shame on you Sony!You can remove copy restrictions of your own recordings as explained here:http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=16088 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Ok guys I think this thread is not really covering any new ground. Obviously the whole question is something of a gray area and one might even say we ourselves are not beyond reproach given that we have numerous threads dedicated to MD trading and a gallery for uploading Atrac recordings. However I think the specific endeavor that is being proposed here is not something we should publicly be endorsing. Likewise the DRM issues have been amply discussed elsewhere on the forum. Thanks * Thread closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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