rampart Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi, I am a long time lurker, and really appreciate all of the hacks the regulars here have provided over the years - it has been really difficult to realise the full potential of HiMD vs those meddling kids at Sony. I am not really very technical so would really appreciate any help with the below. Anyway, my beloved MZ-RH1 has been well used, then recently wouldn't power up. It wouldn't charge, or power up when plugged into the PC. If it was just the battery then wouldn't it still power up / show some sign of life when plugged into the PC. I would happily buy a new LIP-4WM if it was definitely the issue, but i understand my recorder is now 6 years old and this may just be the end. Otherwise the LIP-4WM is just an expensive waste. so is it dead beyond repair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Your RH1 definitely should work when plugged into a PC without the battery installed, in fact that's the only way I used mine - solely as an uploading machine. Sadly I'm not technical enough to tell you whether yours is a dead duck or not, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippeC Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 jim.hoggarth in UK can advise you what to do and, if this is a problem you cannot solve yourself, repair it for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampart Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hey Phillippe i'm in the UK could you tell me how i go about that? Thanks KJ, from what you said i guess its my unit that isn't working as opposed to the battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jmsla Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 The same thing occurs on occasion with one or another of my MZ-RH1 units. With mine, It's as if a contact switch or some such fails to engage upon closing the lid. The following two procedures have worked for me. You can check the two screws located on the bottom at the front edge and the two located on the back side to see if any might be a bit loose. As a caution, I recommend leaving alone any that are not loose. Another possible solution is to insert a disc and shut the lid as you normally would, then very gently apply some pressure with your finger tips to the lid in the area along the rear edge. With power being supplied, that might cause it to wake up. First, however, you should wait to see what the expert at repair has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 I second jmsla's advice. You'll need a set of jeweller's screwdrivers, but that's an outlay of about $10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber131186 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Page 7 of the service manual may help you, bottom left there is a note about if the screws are not tight enough the set may not power on when a usb cable is inserted. There is a MZ-RH1 on ebay with the same fault as this about not powering up at all. May be a commen fault or a simple fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.hoggarth Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 The same thing occurs on occasion with one or another of my MZ-RH1 units. With mine, It's as if a contact switch or some such fails to engage upon closing the lid. The following two procedures have worked for me. You can check the two screws located on the bottom at the front edge and the two located on the back side to see if any might be a bit loose. As a caution, I recommend leaving alone any that are not loose. Another possible solution is to insert a disc and shut the lid as you normally would, then very gently apply some pressure with your finger tips to the lid in the area along the rear edge. With power being supplied, that might cause it to wake up. First, however, you should wait to see what the expert at repair has to say. Please see the comments I have just left re the RH1 in this thread: This should explain the two possible causes of your problem Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShriDurga Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 If you don't mind, I'll use this thread to post some trouble of my own that appeared only this week. I don't use the RH1 much so was surprised to be discovering problems. Last week I transferred some albums in Hi-MD via Sonic Stage using the RH1. Same as usual, no problems. This week, I can't get SS or my computer to recognize RH1. Tried rebooting the computer, using a different USB drive, different MDs - nothing. The RH1 display flashes ACCESS and just hangs there. What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.hoggarth Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Last week I transferred some albums in Hi-MD via Sonic Stage using the RH1. Same as usual, no problems. This week, I can't get SS or my computer to recognize RH1. Tried rebooting the computer, using a different USB drive, different MDs - nothing. The RH1 display flashes ACCESS and just hangs there. What gives? You don't give much to go on, but there are two immediate things coming to mind. If the message appears when first plugged into the USB port, it may be that the disc read is failing. Does a similar problem appear when inserting a disc for playing, when not attached to the PC? I have also had a similar problem when using any Hi-MD unit on a flaky USB port. Some USB sockets just don't work right. You seem to be saying you have already tried a different USB port. Have you tried a different USB hub (often two USB ports on the PC will be the same USB device, so try the ports on the back of the machine or a separate plug-in hub). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 HI Jeff, I just realised it's you, not a random stranger without mucho experience. So don't treat my comments as too broad Assuming it's the same port as last week.... I would try to see what ELSE is connected to USB. But I'm a software guy so I would mostly suspect software problems.It's possible you have one of these crazy things that hogs the CPU (not necessarily a virus - don't try installing new antivirus that may make it worse). In this case, no polling will occur. Some stuff from Microsoft where it's trying (and failing) to run automatic updates, can be the cause.You don't mention characteristics of your PC. Speed, RAM, version of Windows, what other software you recently installed.Check to see with Task Manager or Process Explorer. Get rid of Firefox browser (stop it, no need to de-install), Samsung AllShare (same thing), and look to see if any of the services are going mad and taking large percent CPU. Have you got an HP printer on your network? I've had a fair bit of trouble with the background printer communication on the network. Is there an Apple Airport in the house? Did you install Nero Backitup? There's a sneaky scheduler which can cause problems.Finally, just to check - last week you used HiMD. Are you running Windows 64-bit (most W7 installs) and this is a non-HiMD? If so you need NETMD760.SYS NetMD driver from the download section. (yeah I realise this one not likely since you are you).Double check, if you can, with some other device than the RH1. If that works, especially with non-HiMD disk, then it's a hardware problem most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShriDurga Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 64bit Windows 7, had no trouble last week using the same ports, software, hardware. Since last writing, I tried reinstalling the driver. No luck. Reinstalled SS, No luck. The RH1 is connected to the computer via USB cable. Put the disc in - nothing. Not even the ACCESS message. Just like it's dead. I unplug from the computer and start play on the unit (the remote is not connected). The machine recognizes the disc. I press stop then plug back into the computer. VOILA! SS now reads the disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just a thought - do you always press "STOP" before disconnecting the RH1 from the cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShriDurga Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 If it has been sitting for a while and not in use, then no. If I wish to disconnect shortly after using it, then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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