amwnetmdac Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Hi there, I got an old MZ-N505 working on Windows 10, in the hope that Sonic Stage would allow me to see the date of creation, modification or transfer of the files on some MiniDiscs but, sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know of any way to do this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Nope, only if you are using HiMD and using it for file storage. The file system of legacy MD isn't ever visible to you. Not certain if there is even date information stored. You might poke around in the source of #linux-minidisc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amwnetmdac Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 5:57 AM, sfbp said: Nope, only if you are using HiMD and using it for file storage. The file system of legacy MD isn't ever visible to you. Not certain if there is even date information stored. You might poke around in the source of #linux-minidisc...... Thanks, sfbp. How do you mean the source of #linux-minidisc? Are there any tutorials on this site in respect of viewing the source code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 It's like most shared open-source projects, you have to go off to github (if not there, somewhere else, you will find it real quick) and scratch your head over that. IIRC dates were not used, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 sfbp is correct. Tracks in legacy format (SP, LP2 etc..) don't have a concept of a date property. You can see this if you scroll through the options on the remote when playing a track or look at the properties of a track on a disc in the transfer window in Sonic Stage. Non Hi-MD tracks only have track title. The Group can have a title and the Disc can have a title. That's it. For Hi-MD tracks (Atrac3+) you can additionally have album name, artist name and track date. The date property for track will only be visible on certain units as well - usually the recorders / downloaders that have an internal clock function - for example, NH1, RH1, DH10P, NH3D etc... but it will be visible in Sonic Stage in the properties of the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amwnetmdac Posted December 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Okay, thanks very much. Sadly not the outcome I hoped for, but I'm really very grateful for the helpful, knowledgeable and definitive answers. At least I won't spend hours poring over something that's not possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imkidd57 Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 As a point of accuracy, most legacy recorders will apply a time-stamp to an MD recording, which will be written to sector 2 in the TOC information. With some decks, this information is accessible via the 'Retry Cause Display Mode'. The minidisc.org archives are a valuable source for this [1, 2]. It' a slightly precarious procedure as you have to pretend to record on a disc, then put the machine into a form of service mode which allows the time-stamp to be displayed for each track by rotating the AMS knob. The process can be exited without actually recording on the minidisc's TOC. *Edit* - Actually after trying out on a JB920, it seems this info can be retrieved from the disc without the process of intending to record. Insert disc into the deck, then when the TOC information appears, press the <stop> button for 10-15 seconds and the display changes. Rotate the AMS knob to get time-stamp info for each track in the format YYMMDD. The examples below show tracks on MDs recorded on: 2003-04-17 (17th April 2003) 2006-09-03 (3rd Sept 2006) Small extra track recorded today (5th Jan 2021) Unfortunately for the OP, I don't think this is possible for portables; it's not mentioned in the service manual for the MZ-N505. Finally, of course the time-stamp will only be accurate if the original recorder had its clock set correctly. 1. How to put the deck unit into 'Super-Undo mode' (Retry Cause Display Mode) -> http://www.minidisc.org/super_undo.html 2. How to display the info (e.g. on an MDS-JE520); second table, top panel -> http://minidisc.org/retry_cause_display_mode.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGY Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 8:03 AM, imkidd57 said: of course the time-stamp will only be accurate if the original recorder had its clock set correctly Looks like this feature is available on selected QS (920, 930, 940) and on the ES decks only. Yet another reason for using a QS/ES deck for recording :-) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Thanks for this - very useful at some future juncture (for me) and for OP if/when he gets a deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBoy Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Not sure about the other QS/ES decks but the MDS-JB940 has a "Date Recorded" button on the remote control. There's no such button on the MDS-JB980's remote control (nor does it have a clock afaik). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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