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phew, i thought u were talking about mine a sec :lol: haha

I did use to have this though: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/gre...r/videoofme.gif :lol: haha

Its not the fast moving ones i hate, its the ones that flash like those lights at raves or watever, the inverting colours back and forth is truely awe inspiringly annoying.

tartan's is ok i guess, its a cool avatar, but does distract a bit from what the post actually says, I aggree with you there. *peace*

Greg, sure I'm glad You changed You Avatar - the one with mouth excises is almost "insane" , ha ha , but is funny :)

I was just thinking, - wonder what I will do if I had a real problem , ask question here , and only answer would be form StevieP123 , ha ha , or from someone with similar Avatar. Would I stick to my promise to my self of ignoring them and not reading, ha ha, - I think I would make an special - exception :)

Stevie - Please don't feel I don't like You or something, no, ( sounds that You are very cool guy), ....it is just the speed of racccoonie :)

Scars me :) My fear level is in Hi-MoDe

Cheeers guys, ......

?=is it raccoonie-or just a dog puppy ?

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But the thing that most is pissing me OFF

is/are people who don't get pisst OFF at the same things that I get pissed OFF at.

Man, that really pisses me OFF. :)

Why can they also get pisssed OFF :) at the same time for the same reasons, at the same things. ??

It is pissing me OFF to be pissed OFF just by my self alone. HA HA :)

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:lol: lol but what really is the question on all of our pissed off minds, is how pissed off our pissed off minds can really get pissed off, :huh: huh? lol

Well, now I'm getting really pissed OFF, ha ha :) trying to measure my minds capacity to get pissed OFF , and the sense of humor in me is getting on the way. :)

.....see U latter, must go now , - maybe I find some reason to get pisst OFF a bit :)

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i got one thing buggin me, its more of an anoyance than anything else, but these kids with their really loud mufflers. whats the point in puttin a muffler like that on such an underpowered car? its like puttin a hoodscoop on a lawnmower "hey guys, look at my John Deer!" lol i always laugh when i see those things. i got a great one for ya, a guy on my street or somewhere around here put a hoodscoop on a stationwagon and he races it up and down the street. its so dam funny. ah man, now im laughin lol. anyhoo thought id say something cuz those guys need to grow up. i dont care if they have the little honda civic or w/e it is but dont put those mufflers on em, and dont put hoodscoops on an old rust bucket, waste of cash, save up and get a real car. like at least a ford or something. lol anyway, do what you will.

lmfao you gotta see this http://www.vmax.dk/grafik/wallpaper/1024/H...20Civic%203.jpg

i dont wanna piss anyone off, but i just find it hilarious.

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i think its worse when they put a massive exhause on a peugeot 206, so you think theres this massive car coming down the road, you look behind you and its this poopy(guess what word i mean) little car lol. It also annoys me when someone has a massive sound system in their car just to get attention, trying to look like real 'playas' in their 'pimped out ride' er yeah. As you can see people who are big attention seekers annoys me, oh well. I guess you have to have a car with a huge sound system to see why its so great. I just dont see the point of driving a little car with a big sound system just to 'try' to look cool. Oh yeah, another thing , wehey im on a roll, People who think they are 'G's,a 'dog' a 'playa' etc, the whole r'n'b take over is killing me, it isnt even rhythm and blues, does mariah carey's new music sound like blues? I guess its just having an identity, but it still makes me cringe when I hear someone talking like they are a gang banger 'wassup G, wa you doin wi ma ride' when they are from say england? lol

I'll prbably get killed here, but i just hate all these style boxes now days;

emo, punk, hip hop, goth and so on. Maybe im the one who's 'sad' just because I dont smoke pot, know all these indie bands, and am not in a 'box'.

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you knows funny about the sound systems? they dont sound all that good, theres so much bass that all the other speakers distort like shit. why draw attention to such a shitty car? lmfao. its so funny to see those things drive around, im always thinkin to myself "what kind of idiot would drive that peice of s***" my dad always races 'em in his 2005 astro Cargo can. and that thing is gutless as it is. lol. its funny, we always win mainly cuz it has an engine. lol anyhoo... oh yah, guys with ur small cars big sound, grow up get a real car. :P

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wouldn't you rather be on a bike than in a car like the one in the pic there? lol at least it Will get you from point a - b without dieing. lol ah man i find it funny when the guy thinks he has a cool car and the thing has 6 different colors on it and doors from differnt cars. ah man get real .... http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_image...5359_8_full.jpg lmfaorofl that is just too dam funny. seriously.

here we go a nice car finally, my uncle has one like that. my uncles is an ss though http://usaclassiccars.com/images/files/196...le_140367_5.jpg

1968 chevelle

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wouldn't you rather be on a bike than in a car like the one in the pic there? lol at least it Will get you from point a - b without dieing. lol ah man i find it funny when the guy thinks he has a cool car and the thing has 6 different colors on it and doors from differnt cars. ah man get real .... http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_image...5359_8_full.jpg lmfaorofl that is just too dam funny. seriously.

here we go a nice car finally, my uncle has one like that. my uncles is an ss though http://usaclassiccars.com/images/files/196...le_140367_5.jpg

1968 chevelle

lol, well, I would rather have a shtee average car with an average sound system than that gullwing door silver car. If I had the money that person spent on that car,I would rather get myself a suzuki hyabusa or a yamaha r1, if not one of those then I would buy an old lamborghini or something and fix that up instead.

Nice car there, I would prefer a lamborghini miura if I had the cash though *drooools*

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In the uk when people say,'oh not another south african', as if that's supposed to be funny. I doubt they say oh not another Indian or whatever, what difference does it make? I am providing better service and so are 'those indians'. Maybe it's because I am in henley, but it just bugs me. The fact that there are hundreds of brtish people living overseas, and in the holidays just drinking beer all day and watching sky tv in pubs (on the greek islands), just annoys me big time. Oh well. I guess its in every culture, In greece people often refer to anyone not from greece as a Xeno or in direct translation, foreigner.

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>quote<

"ATELETRONICS... please ease up on the CAPS... on boards this is interpreted as shouting"

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I really, I mean really, would like if someone could give me

a source and explanation ( aprx. date, and who it was ,and in what country )

that they come up with this Rule (enigmatic Rule) that by

using CAPS (or even bold) type face is considered as...shouting.

I agree that CAPS if used in the whole post are just plain

and simply very difficult to read,[ not practical ] but what

(visual) physical size of type face has to do with perceived

physical sound level - ?? , this really puzzles me.

As i said if this was perceived and "enforced" from the point of view

that is just dificult to read - I would totally understand - ? -

but telling that this is considered as vocal shouting,

I don't see any connection, any (logical) logic to this argument.

Anyone here especially those of You who are "enforcing" :")

this sub-logical rule , can / will You be able to defend

(in logical and practical ) - not in emotional - ways this ...rule.

What CAPS had to do with sound level.?

It is like saying that colour red has specific smell to it.

Or is this just "old wife's" tale, urban legend ? that masses are

just following (blindly) with out questioning it's correlation to real life physics ?

I, - if I follow rules, I like to understand them at logic level,

not like in case of black cat running in front of me and bringing

me bad luck story, of not walking under the latter, etc., ect., . . . . .

I think someone come up with this rule as a silly joke , and now

majority just following (blindly).

This reminds me a bit of hillarious mass conception that blonds

have more fun, and millions and millions of women are dying

their hair > hope-ing < to have more sex appeal and supposedly

have more fun , there is a saying "that blonds have more fun" ,

- but in mean time they still inside the same miserable as they

were before hair colour change, the perceived happines is not real

and is not long term, lasts only few days or weeks /months,

and old misery sooner or letter crawls out from the personality,

and changing hair colour doe's nothing to help.

I think some times using CAPS (or bolds) is needed for

visual effects to break the monotony of text written in small size type,

- same as it is on food labels, just look at list of ingredients,

they are all in the same size types [small or CAPS],

just to discourage You from reading how much chemicals is there:),

[ of course not all products have chemicals in them - U get my point I hope ],

-...and look at the front of labels with differed sizes, boldness,

\ styles of font to make some text information to "stand Up " from

other text, etc.,

See if You can come up with some strong solid arguments that will

give solid support structure to this "rule"

that ::: "using CAPS in writing posts is considered as LOUD SHOUTING enigma" ?.

Take a shot at it guys ? :)

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lol sorry dude but it is a FACT that using capitals, bold, italics is deemed as 'shouting'. Look it up on the net, its called, contrastive stress. It is used in the english language to make language 'louder'. If you want to add emphasis, its a bit better to just use italics. I do it sometimes. example, GEORGE BUSH IS AN IDIOT!, compared to george bush is an idiot!, see the difference? Watever, I just find it annoying, my two cents.

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lol sorry dude but it is a FACT that using capitals, bold, italics is deemed as 'shouting'. Look it up on the net, its called, contrastive stress. It is used in the english language to make language 'louder'. If you want to add emphasis, its a bit better to just use italics. I do it sometimes. example, GEORGE BUSH IS AN IDIOT!, compared to george bush is an idiot!, see the difference? Watever, I just find it annoying, my two cents.

Hey Greg, -

it is nice of You to say that word - but no need to "sorry" - :) , I'm taking this whole subject really easy and lightly, (maybe i was not skilled enough to present that way in my post) - I know I'm not going to change this - at least not by my self, Ha ha :)

I know that it might be written some where on the net as a "rule" of english language " -as a- "contrastive stress" - but no matter how many volumes it is written about it , in my opinion it is still purely intellectual speculative concept, ...again with out any correlation to real life sound/ voice physics.

It is just someone's theory - that someone come up with it to write perhaps university paper.

If i see a post that it is written in ALL CAPS i just go on with out reading it. Unless it is few lines.

I don't understand motiivation of those people , cause i'm almost sure they when reading posts by others written in ALL CAPS - they must to have difficulties reading them also, but they still write like that them self's.

STRANGE indeed :)

Maybe has to do with attention seeking.?.

Cheeeers,..... :) >or may I say< CHEEEERS, ........ :)

Ha haa, ha , { just having little fun } , since i can not get really i mean REALLY get pist OFF at something serious ...... ;)

P.S. >quote<, "It is used in the english language to make language 'louder'." - so why they are not attacking food labels ?, wine, news paper print, movie posters - ALL packaging labels in that case.

I think that language 'louder' concept is silly in application to writing posts on the net.

Why here is not appropriate and in real life it is. ?

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>quote< ..."but it is a FACT that using capitals, bold, italics is deemed as 'shouting'. "

What kind of FACT. ?

To me FACT is physical evidence of something , - in this case it is only theoretical, i was trying to get a sound form my computer when reading small types , and i put my ear really close to the computer, to the speakers, to monitor, and no sound was coming out from the letters , and the same was lacking when i read CAPITAL type face.

Maybe my computer is broken, but so far makes no difference the size of type face in posts, --- still no LOUD sound of SHOUTING is being emitted for them.

Must be "old wife's tale" - the urban legend.

They manipulating us , for now with this silly rule , just to get us hooked , and letter they -"THEY"- will tell us that we must not use question [?] marks , because this can be deemed as questioning ALL authority, ... ALL rules.

So just in case from now ON - do not use [ ? ] QUESTION marks., Ha ha :)

P.S.

Theirs suggestion to use italic font is grossly silly, it is as difficult tot read as CAPITAL letters.

They know that.

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just read the links & foll ow this suggestion

please refrain from using existing threads to unrelated arguments or comments.

don't think i don't know it's in bold. it's a prerequisit of being a moderator.

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This is a "what's pissing you off " THREAD

So i don't understand your problem ?

Ha ha ha :)

My post - my topic - the subject in it - is related to "ranting" :)

What's pissing me off. :)

May I quote:

Minidisc Community Forums The other stuff. Off Topic [Music, Electronics + etc] what's pissing you off

You are avoiding my challenge, - or you are not capable to respond in solid contra argument way ?

Well ? :)

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P.S. you can give 100 links to read about it, - they are ALL are speculative, theoretical concepts.

I know it is hard to break the walls of confusion, ....same thing it was in Medieval times.

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human... I really love your alternative, humanistic and perhaps even esoteric style...honestly! It's very refreshing to see someone passionate about technology who is at the same time so... well, 'human'!

but the fact about caps isn't my invention nor this board's or really any other... it's a simple fact that words in caps demand more attention than words in small cases...just like something said in a raised voice is more 'pressing' than something said normally. To come back to your statement on colours... my mum teaches sciences of colours at arts schools in Belgium and throughout the years colours have had different meanings, but still, red has always (well very often) been interpreted/used as a colour of warning... shouting at you "watch out!"... is this wrong? No! If it works, then it is easy as it allows symbolic communication. With these conventionist 'rules' I can whisper or SHOUT without you ever seeing me... that's not really rules because we like rules, that's part of human interaction mediated by machines...

I can't see you when you're typing posts, so on boards we use stuff we can see (like caps or even bold/italic and other typographic styles) to interpret the plain text as "speech" in stead of plain text. A few of the greatest (Flemish) poets like Paul Van Ostayen (see this poem "Boem"

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by him where the sound of a concert is represented by typography) used this knowledge to represent sound and suddenness etc. by typograpghics...

You see, human (and others that did not get my remark against caps) I just wanted to point something out that for a lot of ppl is pretty obvious (caps =shouting, bold = stress, italic = (often) irony,...)... I do not really need rules, just to have rules...but I really can't stand anarchy just for anarchy :lol:

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This so called bold type face or CAPITAL type "rule" - being considered as a theoretical subject

( but not practical application with physical side effects of loud shouting ) , reminds me of a story

when daughter was watching her mom placing turkey into the (?)turkey pot - or what ever it is called,

...and that pot goes into the oven, and just before putting into the oven mom cut off top part of the turkey breast,

and surprised daughter ask her Why she did that, and mom said -

I don't really know - but my mom did it - I learned from Her,

So daughter went and asked her grand Ma - grandMa said -

I don't know - my Mom did that, I learned from Her,

so daughter went and asked Gradn Gran Ma - and same ansver,

so finally daughter went to 3xGradn Ma - and asked Her -

and She answered - Ohhh, my child ,

We had small pot and the turkey did not fit it -

so I had to cut off the topof the turkey breast

so I can close the lid.

And I think many things are done and reproduced by many of Us -

because someone just said so.

============================================

In some long past in english language word "lady" was used to describe

women who were employed at the Kings/Queens palace in the bakery shop ( palaces had hundreds of people living there) -

and at that bakers shop there were women who did nothing else all day but just were knitting bread dough,

and the baker was placing it in to the oven, women were only doing

one thing all day, knitting the dough, woman who did this dough knitting job , she was called, ..... lady.

Lady was like an job description.

And look today how this word changed, it changed some time ago ,

but You see the change in application.

Another one [and this one is bit heavy if You like] -

it is from the triple X file:

It has to do with mind programming

In the long past English doctors and royalty and common people

used word ( f * * k ) to describe totally proper behavior such as intercourse.

That word (f * * k) was totaly, i mean totally proper medical and social word to be used in public, and was used in the same way as today

We use word "intercourse" or ....lady, or Hi-MD, ...but some how someone said

that word f**k is a bad BAD swear word .... and now We have it.

Why and how they come to this conclussion it is a mystery.

Would be interesting to find out if from the beginning of beginnings

some words were destine to be "bad" words and other "good" words

So I'm just watching how many times We as humanity are being molded

into molds /rules\ that are strange, ilLogical, silly, dangerous,

enslaving, questionable, etc., etc., ......

Just being watchful - that's ALL :)

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human, I get your point of view... no need to repeat it (or is repeating when feeling misunderstood a culturized/socialized rule)... I just think caps/bold is different

sometimes material things (like colour/pictures or even typography) invoke human feelings, still these are not really "rules"... red has (depending on the context) invoked feelings of love/lust (see all the soppy/mushy stuff in red now or even the red light district) or danger (red traffic signs)... these things are (after quite a while) absorbed by habit/legislation etc. as rules, but still stem from real/lived feelings!

so I think I would feel the same about caps, rule or not!

there's a difference between a rule that's been imposed without any 'logic' and a 'rule'/'convention' stemming/grown from 'long time use' and/or 'logics'

please, unless you have som real/non-anarchistic arguments against typographic conventions, let's stop this discussion here, I think we've stretched it long enough

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human... I really love your alternative, humanistic and perhaps even esoteric style...honestly! It's very refreshing to see someone passionate about technology who is at the same time so... well, 'human'!

but the fact about caps isn't my invention nor this board's or really any other... it's a simple fact that words in caps demand more attention than words in small cases...just like something said in a raised voice is more 'pressing' than something said normally. To come back to your statement on colours... my mum teaches sciences of colours at arts schools in Belgium and throughout the years colours have had different meanings, but still, red has always (well very often) been interpreted/used as a colour of warning... shouting at you "watch out!"... is this wrong? No! If it works, then it is easy as it allows symbolic communication. With these conventionist 'rules' I can whisper or SHOUT without you ever seeing me... that's not really rules because we like rules, that's part of human interaction mediated by machines...

I can't see you when you're typing posts, so on boards we use stuff we can see (like caps or even bold/italic and other typographic styles) to interpret the plain text as "speech" in stead of plain text. A few of the greatest (Flemish) poets like Paul Van Ostayen (see this poem "Boem"

IPB Image

by him where the sound of a concert is represented by typography) used this knowledge to represent sound and suddenness etc. by typograpghics...

You see, human (and others that did not get my remark against caps) I just wanted to point something out that for a lot of ppl is pretty obvious (caps =shouting, bold = stress, italic = (often) irony,...)... I do not really need rules, just to have rules...but I really can't stand anarchy just for anarchy :lol:

Wary nice example The Low Volta.

So finally some one {YOU} ok ... You - :) is giving me real life examples.

My so called uneasiness is when someone ( some times it is me (ME) is using CAPS is not with intention to SHOUT , but to graphically to break the monotony of small type text, and to bring GENTLE :) attention to particular word, statement.

It is as We said before totaly different when someone is writing the whole post in CAPS.

Some how You see, I never react to this type of posts as offensive SHOUTING attitude posts, I just consider them to be un-practical to read.

And -funny- only when i read that CAPS are considered to be offensive shouting attitude, only then i look at them sort of with that angle of perception , but still could not get upset at them , perhaps if I was programmed from the beginig to react to CAPS in such a way then maybe I would.

Same as I You would take a person from the deepest jungle in Amazon and dropped off in downtown of a BIG city,

and He would cross the street on red light ,

would You give Him the ticket , - ?

He knew noting of such rule.

So maybe it was with me, I knew nothing of such "rule" till i come few times to people jumping at others when they wrote whole post, or just some times few words in CAPS, only then i started to look into it, ....and i said to my self how come by my natural instincts to avoid loud obnoxious people in real life - how come this CAPS did not make me to react with such reactions as they were shouting at me in their posts.

So i guess it is a question of conditioning of Our minds.

Cheeers,..... :)

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Back to topic, I get really pissed when people ask me if I'm in India when they call the center I work at. Listen, you old conservative close-minded folks (open minded conservative folks, please don't take offense), if you can't distinguish between hispanic and hindu accents (I don't sound like either of them, trust me), you better get out of your little happy "Us and them" world and spend sometime at your local mexican restaurant, and later to the Hindu restaurant. You got a problem with outsourcing? Then tell it so to the companies you do business with in written, or by not buying their products (Oh, but you just love Walmart prices, don't you?), and let your representatives know, and don't give them your vote until they do something about it.

Improving my english ( I didn't know anything but the basic when I came to the US) and keeping my spanish in good shape is already hard enough for me, for some idiot asking every freaking time if I'm in India.

Watch the Simpsons:

Apu=Hindu.

Dr. Nick Riviera and Bumblebee guy= Hispanic.

Perhaps they'd prefer me do my heaby RRushian Ack-cent, Komrades? Or perhapsh, my Shean Connery scothishsh impreshion, hm?

*pants heavily*

Thanks.

(Now, people from India, I don't have a problem with you. I work with them all the time from the India call center. My problem is with the people who have a problem with all the outsourcing there, and then try to make their problem, my problem. What a load of jerks.)

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to just finish this off, I'll requote myself...

ATELETRONICS... please ease up on the CAPS... on boards this is interpreted as shouting

I 'm sorry if my "tone of voice" (if possible :P ) offended anyone... but I was just pointing out (in a calm manner... therefore no unecessary caps, :P again) to the person in question that he/she be careful with full-caps-posts as it is often interpreted as shouting and I did not want this person to be discouraged in forums because of an angry reaction by someone... I did also react to the content of the post... and not in an angry/insulted (or anything) fashion, but with my experiences

I also had the NH900 button malfunctions, it really has nothing to do with a button being stuck, it happened with 3 different buttons on mine (stop, menu and ffw/rew)

so...no hard feelings... but while I didn't invent the "rule" I do think it is useful enough to teach to newbies (even when born in the 'non-digital' jungle, heck I'm 26...I experienced the birth of the 1st home computer...I still know what PC stands for, let alone I knew BBS and pre www internet :lol: )

PEACE TO ALL (yes, this was intended to sound very loud :P ),

Volta

edit: I do not ask/support for anyone to be banned (this topic just isn't serious enough for it IMHO), but as I said ... anarchy just for the heck of it isn't really constructive in my book either, so let's all be a little bit more flexible and all's well... it's almost X-mass after all

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human, I get your point of view... no need to repeat it (or is repeating when feeling misunderstood a culturized/socialized rule)... I just think caps/bold is different

sometimes material things (like colour/pictures or even typography) invoke human feelings, still these are not really "rules"... red has (depending on the context) invoked feelings of love/lust (see all the soppy/mushy stuff in red now or even the red light district) or danger (red traffic signs)... these things are (after quite a while) absorbed by habit/legislation etc. as rules, but still stem from real/lived feelings!

so I think I would feel the same about caps, rule or not!

there's a difference between a rule that's been imposed without any 'logic' and a 'rule'/'convention' stemming/grown from 'long time use' and/or 'logics'

please, unless you have som real/non-anarchistic arguments against typographic conventions, let's stop this discussion here, I think we've stretched it long enough

OK, ok, - The Low Volta

I understand that We both understand :)

Thanks, - only You were capable to pick-Up the topic and respond with logical examples.

Thanks for fun discussion :)

Cheeers,.....

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Human, we're just a little weary given how things are going at the T-Board. We wish not to reflect their recent social circumstances nor be a fallout center. You'll find this to be a nice community of normal people who wish to discuss the format and everything in-between accordingly. Let's all hit the peace pipe and relax here. :P

p.s. I deleted your private message response to atrain -- he sent you that message in private and it would be more appropriate to discuss it with him or myself if necessary, not in a topic.

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