MichaelBeardy Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 It seems from this forum that a number of users are experiencing the same problem that dogged a lot of users of the full installer for SS 3.1 - namely, that it wouldn't see the HiMD recorder when it was plugged into their PC. I had this problem too. On this forum a user (sorry can't remember too many details) posted a workaround for this issue. It consisted of downloading and installing the German version of SS 3.0 and then installing SS 3.1 on top of this (without any uninstall). In some cases (mine included) you had to install SS 3.1 twice (really!) as the first install wouldn't "appear". Somewhat strangely, this actually worked. So when I tried installing SS 3.2 on my PC using the full MDCF installer, I wasn't totally surprised to experience exactly the same issue - no recognition of my HiMD. So I did a full uninstall of SS 3.2 followed by reboot followed by installing the German SS 3.0 (which I have stored on my hard drive) followed by reboot followed by install of SS 3.2 (which didn't appear on the desktop or in Program Files) followed by reboot, followed by second install of SS 3.2, followed by reboot, and, Yay! it all works. Well, it seems to... so far... I'll see if I can find the link to the German version... Sorry, can't find it using "search"... anyone..?Just a thought for Kurisu and Daijoubu... this does kind of make me wonder if there is still something missing from the full install version of SS 3.2 (for some people's systems at least) which is present in the German version which enables those systems to recognise the HiMD device. Curious... Hope this is of some help.Peace,Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommypeters Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 The only problem now is that all the songs you play on your MD will be in German... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBeardy Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) The only problem now is that all the songs you play on your MD will be in German... ←You mean in the same way that when I hop into my Deux Chevaux, immediately I am wearing a beret, have a Gauloises hanging from my lips, and a string of garlic slung over my shoulder. Zut alors..! Michael Edited September 3, 2005 by MichaelBeardy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Hi there...it'd be a fantastic help if you could find the link to the German SS 3.0 DL as it might save my sanity too...Many thanksStrangely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 www.connect-europe.commake sure you use IE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBeardy Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Found it...! Here you go...http://www.sony.de/content/attachment/SONIC_Stage_3003.zipBe warned though, it's about 80MB.Hope it brings you SonicStage happiness. And remember, it's likely that if you install SS3.2 over the top of this, that the first install won't "show up" - just install it again after the reboot - at some stage during the second install you may get a prompt telling you an earlier version exists (of SimpleBurner, I think) and do you want to overwrite this - I just accepted this and the second install proceeded fine.Let us know if it works for you...Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Found it...! Here you go...http://www.sony.de/content/attachment/SONIC_Stage_3003.zipBe warned though, it's about 80MB.Hope it brings you SonicStage happiness. And remember, it's likely that if you install SS3.2 over the top of this, that the first install won't "show up" - just install it again after the reboot - at some stage during the second install you may get a prompt telling you an earlier version exists (of SimpleBurner, I think) and do you want to overwrite this - I just accepted this and the second install proceeded fine.Let us know if it works for you...Michael←Thanks for the link...grabbed it, installed it, installed 3.1 twice (it didn't show the first time, just as you said ...was all prepared to grow a beard in homage!Didn't work though I can see my NH600 as a logical drive in windows but i can't see in with SS 3.1 ...or 3.2 now! (or MD Simple Burner as a test)Bugger! Will have to continue my searchThanks for your help though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Thanks for the link...grabbed it, installed it, installed 3.1 twice (it didn't show the first time, just as you said ...was all prepared to grow a beard in homage!Didn't work thoughhave you performed a clean install of the German version? (as described here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBeardy Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) ...was all prepared to grow a beard in homage!Didn't work though I can see my NH600 as a logical drive in windows but i can't see in with SS 3.1 ...or 3.2 now! (or MD Simple Burner as a test)Bugger! Will have to continue my searchThanks for your help though ←Sorry to hear it didn't work...If you haven't already done so, try the full clean-up prior to installing the German version as The Low Volta suggests - I always use this when installing any newer version of SS, and I kind of assumed that you would have done this already (which I had no right to assume, really).If that doesn't work, then I'm a bit stumped - but some of the others around here may be able to help you out yet. Don't despair - there is a serious amount of expertise here on this forum - we want you to really enjoy your HiMD. How many other places can say that and really mean it?BTW - even if it does work, no need to grow a beard in homage - I've been clean-shaven for over a year now (kind of brings out my boyish good looks )Good luck,MichaelP.S. You're not using any kind of USB hub are you? As from what is fairly widely reported, that can be a source of problems with hooking up to SS. Edited September 5, 2005 by MichaelBeardy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daijoubu Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 The installer install everything found in the web installer ini and in the same order and the same command line, I really don't know what's happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBeardy Posted September 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 It is certainly very strange...My PC is reasonably standard: WinXP SP2, updated regularly, AMD Athlon XP2500+ processor etc...Can't think of anything which would be likely to cause SS to trip up, but it's as if the German version has some extra hidden ingredient which enables SS3.x to work properly. The German version installs with a different user interface - is it possible to see whether it installs extra components on the PC? I wouldn't know where to start, but it seems like you might know what you're doing... Clearly though, the standard SS3.2 install works well enough for most people .Peace,Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Mercedes-Benz, IBM, Siemens, BMW... it's only natural the German version of SS worked. <<<< Look! A german shepherd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I had the same problem with 3.2 and my MZ-NH700, so I did the complete uninstall detailed above and installed the German v3.0. I ran it up and, hey presto, it acknowledges the HiMD mode. I even did a few recordings to prove it was working OK.I'm a great believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", so I reckon I'll stay with the German version, rather than install 3.2 over it. I can just about understand the messages.Many thanks for all your helpPS I've got a version 2.0 which came on the CD with the MZ-NH700, so maybe I'll do a trial install on the laptop and see if it works HiMD.Hardware: AMD Barton 3000, Win 2K + SP3, 512MB, XFX NF-AL24H M/B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 PS I've got a version 2.0 which came on the CD with the MZ-NH700, so maybe I'll do a trial install on the laptop and see if it works HiMD.←It will. Then upgrade to english 3.2 via Sony site. This should not give you any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 It will. Then upgrade to english 3.2 via Sony site. This should not give you any problems.←Many thanks, I'll give it a whirl tonite and let you know how I get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Many thanks, I'll give it a whirl tonite and let you know how I get on.←The non-recognition of HI-MD devices was a side-effect of the stand-alone installer only not of the internet installer versions of 3.2.For example, my laptop was originally installed with 2.1 (English) (which came with my NH900). This was then upgraded to 2.3, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 via the internet and works fine with both my NH900 and DH10P.I have another machine which was a base install of 3.0J from the Cd that shipped with my DH10P and then upgraded to 3.2 via the Sony site and this also works fine with all my HI-MD units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Now here's a strange thing. I've just done a download install of SS 3.2 on to my work machine, rebooted and ran it up with the MZ-NH700 connected. It aknowledges the HiMD mode OK.The home machine has the install-from-CD version of SS 3.2 'cos I only have a dial-up at home.The hardware on the work machine is marginally different:AMD Athlon 2200, Asus A7V266-MX, 512MB, Win 2k + SP4So... the only significant differences between the home and work setups appear to be:1) downloaded versus standalone versions of SS 3.22) Win 2K SP4 vs SP3Hm....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Your comment:"The non-recognition of HI-MD devices was a side-effect of the stand-alone installer only not of the internet installer versions of 3.2."I overlapped with your reply... My experience with the downloaded version on my work PC confirms this. The problem I now have is how to get a working version of 3.2 on my home machine - I certainly don't fancy getting the download verion via a dial-up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Now here's a strange thing. I've just done a download install of SS 3.2 on to my work machine, rebooted and ran it up with the MZ-NH700 connected. It aknowledges the HiMD mode OK.The home machine has the install-from-CD version of SS 3.2 'cos I only have a dial-up at home.The hardware on the work machine is marginally different:AMD Athlon 2200, Asus A7V266-MX, 512MB, Win 2k + SP4So... the only significant differences between the home and work setups appear to be:1) downloaded versus standalone versions of SS 3.22) Win 2K SP4 vs SP3Hm.......←I would make sure you have SP4 on both machines, but as I said the non-recognition of devices was a bug in the stand-alone installer posted in the downloads area of this site. The 3.2 version you installed on the home machine was not a Sony original cd right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 The problem I now have is how to get a working version of 3.2 on my home machine - I certainly don't fancy getting the download vesrion via a dial-up!←I know the staff here are working on fixing the stand-alone installer, but until that is done I fear you are stuck with 3.0 or whatever the version that was on your cd was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I would make sure you have SP4 on both machines, but as I said the non-recognition of devices was a bug in the stand-alone installer posted in the downloads area of this site. The 3.2 version you installed on the home machine was not a Sony original cd right?←Right! It was the one from the download area.I can manage - just - with the German v3.0. I'll see what the v 2.0 from the Sony CD looks like on the laptop and if it's OK, maybe I'll go with that instead. Can't remember what v3.2 gives you over v2.0, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 (edited) Right! It was the one from the download area.I can manage - just - with the German v3.0. I'll see what the v 2.0 from the Sony CD looks like on the laptop and if it's OK, maybe I'll go with that instead. Can't remember what v3.2 gives you over v2.0, though.←A lot more... most importantly unlimted uploads and no DRM for music transferred to your units. Also some new Atrac3 plus bitrates (but as yet only usable with HDD units / PSP and only 192kbps I think) see here for full details of what 3.2 inlcudes:http://www.sonydigital-link.com/DNA/SonicStage/SS32.asp?l=en Edited September 7, 2005 by richyhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishiyoshi Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Also some new Atrac3 plus bitrates (but as yet only usable with HDD units / PSP and only 192kbps I think)←Just for your reference: the PSP can utilize all existing and new ATRAC3plus bit rates (some Network Walkman such as the NW-E99 can utilize all the new ATRAC3plus bit rates as well); and being the only ATRAC device with the ability to transfer ATRAC tunes encoded from one PC to another.For further details, please visit our sister forum: ATRACLife Colloquium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Just a word of warning if you go back to the SS 2.0 CD version - SS versions before 2.3 had a habit of trashing uploads. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Just a word of warning if you go back to the SS 2.0 CD version - SS versions before 2.3 had a habit of trashing uploads. Keith←Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll confine the v2.0 install to the laptop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 - if you do have an internet connection: the official connect SS3.2 net installer doesn't seem to cause any recognition difficulties- if you do not have a connection, but you can install the German SS3.0, just install the standalone 3.2 over it (a couple of times till it works) yes it is strange to do such a thing and yes it is a drag, but SS3.2 really is that much better than ANY previous version (un-DRM'ed importing of audio, unlimited uploading of your own recordings etc...)if it fails, you still can revert to whatever you want (with a clean install) but I can't see any reason not to try to get SS3.2 working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcadzow Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 if it fails, you still can revert to whatever you want (with a clean install) but I can't see any reason not to try to get SS3.2 working←Yes, I did the double install of SS3.2 last nite and it works fine. Except..... the music database was messed up. No problem, it was just a few of my CDs ready for transfer to HiMD.Un grand remerci..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBeardy Posted September 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yes, I did the double install of SS3.2 last nite and it works fine. Except..... the music database was messed up. No problem, it was just a few of my CDs ready for transfer to HiMD.Un grand remerci.....←Glad to learn that it helped you out. Always best to back up your library beforehand - can be time consuming but worth the while (apologies if you did this and still had it messed up!).Enjoy!Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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