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a new walkman is coming (Sony Germany)

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yes and no, I can't elaborate further though hehe. ^_^

but I currently own both the A3000 and A1000, and I hardly use the 20 gigger for anything, it is too large and cumbersome and the A1000 is so much better. I hardly even listen to more than 3-4 hours per day with the player so I don't need more than 10 gigs. 6 gigs is good, but I tend to use 320 mp3s and I make my own mixes which I tend to encode to 320 and they take up a lot of room.

anyways, all I can say is sony ain;t done yet. :P

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can we expect them in the next few weeks, months or before the end of the year?

in my personal opinion it will just be a few weeks because here in Germany we're always the last people to get new Sony products :(

They now have listed the new Vaio UX Series (ultra mobile PC)for preordering in the online shop for 3000 Euros and those machines are available in Japan and the US for a few months now!

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So... thoughts?

I kinda' like it - but everyone seems to disagree with me. I was initially disappointed, but having now seen it, I think it looks slick. If it has the same crazy 30 or 40 hour battery life that the s6/700 series does, then I dunno - seems like it'd be a step in the right direction.

-Nav

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Are you serious? The new walkman looks horrible! What happened to the usual sony styling and slickness? The front looks completely cluttered and the sony logo at the top looks horrible! I was expecting something like the new samsung yp-k3 or something, but this is just aweful :(.

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Are you serious? The new walkman looks horrible! What happened to the usual sony styling and slickness? The front looks completely cluttered and the sony logo at the top looks horrible! I was expecting something like the new samsung yp-k3 or something, but this is just aweful :(.

cluttered? it has 3 buttons just like the A1000 and A3000. the extra text is for people who have never used a sony before prob, ie press and hold back to go to the main menu, and press and hold option to turn it off, simple. I take it you have no owned an A series before?

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I've seen pictures of the A series HDD players (and owned an A-608 flash) but for some reason the text did not look as obtrusive as it does on this one. It might just be because the picture is bad, or because of the non-reflective surface, or that everything just looks bigger since the overall size of the walkman is smaller.

Let's wait till some official pictures and pictorial reviews come out... I think those will look better than the pics we have now.

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Yeah, I still think I like it - in person I imagine it will look quite good, especially in black. It's all a bit moot for me - I'm not in the market for a flash player, or any player really. Still - even though I was initially disappointed with the announcement, I guess I've just found it odd that the reaction to this has been muted to say the least, when, to my mind, it definitely seems like a step in the right direction for Sony. Given that this will do things that the Nano can't - play video and record to PCM and ATRAC (and MP3/AAC according to another site) - depending on what they do with the software, it might actually be a real competitor. Since they'll have to find a way to put video on there, perhaps it's finally time for 'much-improved-but-still-crappy' Sonicstage to kick the bucket.

-Nav

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here is the low down from what I can gather. again this is all assumption lol

the unit has to play these format straight out of the box

mp3, wma (prob no DRM), aac (no drm), atrac (a sony player with no atrac would create a hole in space and time), and Linear-PCM (otherwise wtf?)

seeing as the unit is basically an evolution of the older A series, the following is prob going to be included.

-a cheesy start up lol

-6 band EQ

-clock

-screensavers (colour now)

-9 language choices as in A1000

-bookmarks

-top 100

-play history

probably a calander and clock will be included, gimmicks, but I do use the clock occasionally since too lazy to take out cell phone

what about video? well being sony, I hardly doubt they will allow divx or xvid, seriously come on. there would have to be some kind of a encoding process that would allow different video formats to play on the device. lol its like atrac all over again but for video. :D prob something along the lines the ipod or zune uses is my guess.

Doesn't the PSP have this?

according to a site the psp does use this, and converts the files to MPEG4 which is the format that the original A1000 chip supports. so I just hope the process is painless and easy. as well, I hope the screen on the A800 is a widescreen one and not 4:3. haha found this on a site regarding the program

TOP TEN REASONS IMAGE CONVERTER 2 IS BUNK

It is not free, and most bootleg solutions are.

-It can't make full-frame MP4 video, and anything less (unless you're dealing with TV-sized clips) is a waste of pixels.

-Its best framerate is supposed to be 30FPS, but it does not render all of those frames properly.

-It has no settings to optimize quality for given clips

-Its "Pictures" feature does nothing that a standard image editor can't, and isn't customized for PSP.

-It produces file sizes nearly as big or even bigger as other programs can do with full-frame, clean-running equivalents

-Its "To Be Transferred" queue still requires you to browse directories if you pre-compress, negating the point of having an easy-to-use application

-It has no features for managing music -- this is just Image Converter software, and you have to get Connect software if you want the audio equivalent (Sony's Connect is also free.)

-It is not in any way configured for making PSP use easy, so you can't transfer picture/movies folders, you can't transfer into the specific PSP Photo directory, and you can't be sure that you are transferring to your PSP unless you understand directory structure.

-It has inspired nothing funny for this list, and Top Ten lists should always be funny ... the software's the joke here, folks.

ouch. :wave: so perhaps in the near future, users will be able to make bootleg programs that will allow easier conversion and transfer to the A800.

if sony goes the drm route with too many things on this device, it won't be such a huge hit as they want it to be. I really want sony to do well here, I am probably planing on buying this to replace my A1000 and the brick, aka the A3000.

as a side track I recently saw this

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...=en&ie=UTF8

-2, 4 8 GB

-plus 2 more gigs via microSD

-colour LED

-fm radio

-recordings

-pictures

-video

hmm I just hope sony adds fm radio, and recordings to the A800.

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well,

I´m in the netherlands and it´s showing 00:00:02:00......

I´m waiting!!!!

edit:

It shows the same mesage as in the above picture. And I know it´s march 1th in germany now, ´cause I live 30 minutes driving from the german border.

I think this sucks..

greetz

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@DSP:Set your Windows Clock timing according to Canada or US or UK timing and see (it will be again in positive :huh::huh: )

Sony Germany site shows 11.51hrs still left ,when I set my Windows Clock acc to Midisland ,Samoa

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@LindiJones

Thats Sony for you :lol: :lol:

@Dsp :Refresh that Sony Germany page again ,and now Clock will be in positive .

At my end Now Sony site is showing about 18 hrs left :lol: :lol:

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countdown is not gone lol, the walkman is to be shown in the morning on march 1st

it is 5:30 pm pst time when i am writing this, therefore that is 2:30 am CET march 1st in germany, and the countdown clock on my pc says 6 hours and 28 min, so making it 9 am CET time or 8 am GMT for the reveal.

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It still does not make any sense. The program is using the clock on your computer to calculate when the new walkman will be launched. It is 2:59 AM in Germany now. When shifted to Germany, the program on Sony Germany states 0-3:00:0-. :huh: It seems waiting until March 2nd is the best bet.

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In australia, i cant see the clock anymore but a flash based ad for something by sony.

Weird.

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Thanks for the link!

So there it is! Still like it - am I nuts? They are, however, sticking with Sonicstage and Image Converter 3. I guess that means that there will be podcast/vodcast support, which is cool. Would have been nice if it were all integrated, but baby steps right.

[EDIT] - Just noticed, it has DSEE built-in and also mentions something about drag n' drop - though it only says that in reference to video and photos, so it may not apply to music. Pretty damn cool though.

Does anyone from the UK know how that sort of pricing compares to other players of that capacity? I noticed the 700 series has been dropped 50 quid.

-Nav

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199.99 GBP =

392.415 USD

United Kingdom Pounds United States Dollars

1 GBP = 1.96217 USD 1 USD = 0.509639 GBP

I like how it looks.. esp. in black! But I want to read more specs and details than what's posted there. Any sort of drag and drop support on a device like this is excellent. I haven't used Image Converter software before, but I imagine it allows drag and drop of all multimedia files. I'm waiting to hear more details and specs, like anticipated battery life, how it handles widescreen videos since it's a 2" 320x240 (4:3) screen, etc.

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Yea, looking good.

@sdfzz: I think the "Plays X hours of audio and Y hours of video" is capacity, not battery life. I looked at the 8GB model first and thought to myself, "Wow, 130+ hours of audio playback on a charge would be incredible." And it didn't make sense after looking at the 2 and 4GB players with smaller battery life.

Photo viewer is mentioned. Not sure about lyrics support, but would be nice. Let's hope that Sony supports this product line for a while and brings some updates to it via firmware upgrades.

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well i went to pillage the site and got this info

High-speed data communication

YES

USB connection

YES

Selectable data compression format (ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus)

YES

Data conversion from MP3/WMA/WAV to ATRAC3 or ATRAC3plus

YES

CDDB® function: Automatic transmission of music information

YES

Work on the music information on the PC

YES

Network MILL-MAN® control at the PC

YES

(i have no idea what this means :P)

there are 3 models, 2, 4 and 8 gig

8192,0

4096,0

2048,0

(capacity)

-no memory stick slots according to the site

plays these atrac formats

ATRAC3 66 Kbit/s

ATRAC3 105 Kbit/s

ATRAC3 132 Kbit/s

ATRAC3plus 48 Kbit/s

ATRAC3plus 64 Kbit/s

ATRAC3plus 256 Kbit/s

ATRAC3 play

ATRAC3plus play

Group function

Repeat function

Coincidence rendition (Shuffle)

Key lock (Hold)

Direct play of MP3

ATRAC (48 Kbit/s); 28 h

ATRAC (128Kbit/s); 27 h

ATRAC (132 Kbit/s); 30 h

Continuous video play

MPEG 4 (768 Kbit/s) approx.. 7 h

MPEG4 (384 Kbit/s); approx.. 8 h

AVC cousin LINE (768 Kbit/s); approx.. 6.5 h

AVC cousin LINE (384 Kbit/s); approx.. 6.5 h

8 GB for the admission of up to 5500 titles or 32 hours of video files

Lithium ion Akku with 30 hours of actual working time for music and 8 hours of actual working time for video

2"-QVGA-Farb-LCD with high resolution (240 x 320) can be used horizontally and perpendicularly

JPEG announcement with dia. show mode

Compatibly with ATRAC , MP3, AAC (DRM not protected) and WMA (DRM not protected)

SonicStage® 4,3 for problem-free music administration and transmission of your favourite titles (ahahahahahahhhahahah)

some quick price info from the site

euros

179.99 - 8GB

149.99 - 4GB

119.99 - 2GB

US dollar

353.00 - 8GB

294.00 - 4GB

235.00 - 2GB

Canadian4

414.00 - 8GB

345.00 - 4GB

276.00 - 2GB

comparing prices for current can models

700 series

4GB - 289.99

2GB - 229.99

600 series

1GB - 149.99

its on the UK site as well

http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProduct.act...Network+Walkman

or

http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProductCate...Network+Walkman

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