GYM | Network Walkman BROWSER-PLAYER-EXTRACTOR

ltmayonnaise · December 9, 2005

I tested the new GYM version as released by Vovo on my A1000 and also came up with the no dialogue box error, but only for Save All Tracks. Save Selected Track works just fine. Everything else tested just fine on a variety of mp3s that were uploaded via Connect. Reading the last post by Vovo it seems he found this error. Just wanted to confirm its existance on an A1000 as well.

Sounds like it could be a big help to get working together via sourceforge, get some versioning going and a code repository so you dont end up overwriting one anothers changes! No offense, just no how it goes doing development in a team with multiple people working on the same code.

I'm going to be traveling until January 1, but would love to setup a website for GYM when I get back. I could setup a forum there as well so users and developers wouldn't be mixed talking in the same thread all the time.

Also, I could work on "skinning" the interface for GYM. Some visiual feedback when rolling over the interface buttons would be a nice touch to start.

Thanks to all you guys who are helping in the development of GYM, this app rocks!

Ciao!

funkycochise · December 9, 2005

Thanks for the hard work vovo and xispe... :ol_love:

I think there's no hurry for going CVS yet.

But sorry xispe, it will be up to you to merge all valuable contributors updates :ol_cool:

And please stay on .net 1.1 for instance.

And please no skinz, vizualizerz or other funny-useless kind of thing.

keep cloning itunes in mind

Edited December 9, 2005 by funkycochise

Vovo · December 9, 2005

Thanks for the hard work vovo and xispe...
I think there's no hurry for going CVS yet.
But sorry xispe, it will be up to you to merge all valuable contributors updates
And please stay on .net 1.1 for instance.
And please no skinz, vizualizerz or other funny-useless kind of thing.
keep cloning itunes in mind
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Yes sure i'm agree with you !

And i forget a little modif for the saving all tracks, thanks ltmayonnaise.

Nobody's got strange sound issue ?

Bye

And Xispe do you receive my project ?

2 new bugs corrected

(clicking twice on the shuffle, and clicking on the track in the player panel

just after GYM launching)

Edited December 9, 2005 by Vovo

ltmayonnaise · December 9, 2005

heh, I didnt mean full "skinning" support or anything like that. Just some nice looking buttons that offer some visual indication (like a rollover) that you're over the current icon. I know it's not a priority, but since I only do web based development (php/mysql/xml/etc) and havent the first clue about how to help with the actual development of the application in .net I thought i'd just help out where I could. Ciao!

hemingway · December 9, 2005

I have just recently put mp3file manager on my hd3 player. The program opens fine..well almost. a small error windows pops up saying, "cannot select driv" after a few ok, ok, ok the programs starts with it's instructions window. I close that and everything seems fine. My songs in the drive appear as they should.

However my problem is that when i try dragging a song(any song) from my computer to the drive it shows me another message with an unsuccessful transfer, "Transfer interrupted. Some files may have not been transferred!"

That's as far as the program works for me. Does anyone have any advice?

hd3

windows sp2

sonic stage 3.3

my goal is to be able to transfer files without having to convert them into atrack.

i'm also keeping on eye on Gym and it's progression, but meanwhile i really want to get mp3file manager to work.

thanks in advance and any help would be greatly appreciated.

mporer88 · December 9, 2005

Works fine with my NW-E507.

I cannnot thank you enough and look forward to the further development of this program.

I am of course willing to pay for the use of it..so whenever you are ready...

Sony is particularly aggressive in their stance regarding DRM. I would advise anyone who wishes to use this system to forgo any kneejerk firmware updates as Sony may choose to alter their encryption scheme in an attempt to mess with you.

I am an early adopter of most technical toys and have been using "MP3" hardware and software for years. While I love the hardware that Sony puts out, their software (SonicStage) is truly an insensitive intrusion upon my time. Because of their software I would never encourage anyone to use their hardware, even though I myself am willing to put up with it for the sake of the beautiful form factor of the NW-E507. I listen to audiobooks that I rip myself at relatively low density so I only need to deal with sonic stage about once a month....

and now perhaps never again.

God bless you all.

May SonicStage burn. :ol_biggrin:

MP

Vovo · December 11, 2005

Hello Xispe

I made a new build with visual studio 2003 and .net 1.1,

if you need it for easily recuperer retrieve my additions.

Bye

*xispe* · December 11, 2005

THanks vovo, i've been working this weekend on a new release.

Already merged your changes with my ones.

Hope to release it soon (still today)

Thanks!

Vovo · December 11, 2005

Yes cool, hurry to see this new one,

My new build seems to solve my sound issue, i don't know why, microsoft..

Bye.

*xispe* · December 11, 2005

probably .NET 2.0 vs .NET 1.1

Vovo · December 11, 2005

probably .NET 2.0 vs .NET 1.1
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Bullshit no, it start again, the sound stall, it's my PC :ol_shocked:

*xispe* · December 11, 2005

install last version of DirectX, as the sound is played using DirectShow.

Ant0ine · December 11, 2005

I'm not able to drag file from my computer to the NW-A 3000 :/

Is it possible to use an other software than connect player to do so ? ( Considering that mp3 manager is not available for the A-3000 )

For the moment , I 'm just able to load file from my walkman to my pc :/

*Ascariss* · December 11, 2005

Ant0ine, there is no drag and drop using windows explorer or any other non sony program for the A series. You can only do drag and drop using the connect player for drag and drop.

*xispe* · December 11, 2005

New Version 1.12 is out!

Major improvements:

- MP3 bitrate

- Track Lenght

(these two thanks to Vovo!)

- Fixed bugs in playback.

- The title changes to show the now playing song

- Minimize to Tray is possible.

- Tray ballon information on single clicking on the icon.

- Tray tooltip for quick info on the playing track

- The playing genre, artist and album are now also highlighted in the lists.

- Context menu in the track list. (Play tracks / Save tracks)

- Possibility of playing only some of the tracks in the list.

- Playback playlist lookup, and information in the now playing area regarding previous, current and next track.

- And most of all: WEBSITE!!!

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/~sonygym

From there you can download the latest version, check screenshots and see interesting stuff!

You can also donate using paypal, for those interested. For those who are not, simply download the program, use it and spread it! I'll be very happy with that!

:ol_biggrin:

Direct link

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/~sonygym/GYM1.12.zip

Source code link:

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/~sonygym/GYMSourcev1.12.zip

Moderators, would you update the main page ?

Thanks!

Edited December 11, 2005 by xispe

Vovo · December 11, 2005

YES !!!

And a review for tomorrow of course

now i go to the website

Whaoo the playlist :ol_cool:

Edited December 11, 2005 by Vovo

ltmayonnaise · December 12, 2005

I'm not able to drag file from my computer to the NW-A 3000 :/
Is it possible to use an other software than connect player to do so ? ( Considering that mp3 manager is not available for the A-3000 )
For the moment , I 'm just able to load file from my walkman to my pc :/
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Hey Antoine, yeah I figured out how to get GYM running on an A1000 and am pretty sure it will work for an A3000 as they're pretty much identical.

You can find a GYM NW-A1000/3000 installation FAQ and everything you need here: http://www.gaugestudios.com/nwa1000/

Xispe, maybe you could post a link to these instructions for A1000/3000 owners on the new GYM site? It looks great by the way, ya beat me to it Also, GYM 1.12 works like a charm on my A1000. Thanks!

December 12, 2005

Thanks to both of you "Xispe & Vovo"

Hopefully i will give my review of new GYM by tomorrow.

Thank again for the GYM

funkycochise · December 12, 2005

1.2, splash is still 1.1...

thanks for all your work !!!

Et merci à Vovo pour sa contibution...

- Sorry, thank to Vovo for his add on -

December 12, 2005

GYm is working really well..

Snap of GYM in Tray

*xispe* · December 12, 2005

1.2, splash is still 1.1...
thanks for all your work !!!
Et merci à Vovo pour sa contibution...
- Sorry, thank to Vovo for his add on -
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opss, forgot to change that! thanks! :ol_cool:

Vovo · December 12, 2005

Hello GYMmaniacs

First, GYM Homepage : Nice, perhaps a dedicated forum, an user guide...

GYM 1.12 : Bugs and issues, nothing !!! :ol_groucho:

Yes one, the last track of the playlist is never shufflised !

No two, click on the progress bar whilt a track is decoding.

The right click on the playlist is not necessary.

Improvements : Now GYM only needs cosmetics enhancements.

Buttons, Playing area... (colors, rolling text...)

The playlist constitution is a little bit long when checking shuffle tracks.

Adding signs to indicate column and sort order /\ - \/.

Playing track in bold (green...)

I work on the look and i'll send you the 1.12b1.

For Version 2... HD5 playlist administration, uploading mp3 tracks.

(Just to kill definitively SS) :ol_lol:

Edited December 12, 2005 by Vovo

sander151187 · December 12, 2005

New Version 1.12 is out!

Fantastic, I am new at this forum and I want to say you've mede great improvements since version 1.11 and older. Please keep up the good work, I think this is a very good initiative and I'm looking forward to see improvements.

Some ideas:

- Implementation of mp3fm

- Better GUI

- Atrac3 support (if possible)

- Auto playlist option

- Track search function

I think this is a very good program already but the ideas above are only things that COULD be improved, if not too hard :ol_biggrin:

Edited December 12, 2005 by sander151187

*xispe* · December 12, 2005

Hello GYMmaniacs
First, GYM Homepage : Nice, perhaps a dedicated forum, an user guide...
GYM 1.12 : Bugs and issues, nothing !!!
Yes one, the last track of the playlist is never shufflised !
No two, click on the progress bar whilt a track is decoding.
The right click on the playlist is not necessary.
Improvements : Now GYM only needs cosmetics enhancements.
Buttons, Playing area... (colors, rolling text...)
The playlist constitution is a little bit long when checking shuffle tracks.
Adding signs to indicate column and sort order /\ - \/.
Playing track in bold (green...)
I work on the look and i'll send you the 1.12b1.
For Version 2... HD5 playlist administration, uploading mp3 tracks.
(Just to kill definitively SS)
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Nice Vovo,

Version 1.13 is yours

Thanks! :ol_biggrin:

johno4485 · December 12, 2005

Hi - I have worked my way through the setup for earlier versions and have tried 1.12 (fairly sure have followed instructions to install .net and keygen) but get same problem in all - I can see tracks on my HD5 in Gym, both atrac and mp3 but neither will play - no sound at all - also when trying to save selected or all files I just end up with empty folders - I read someone else had a similar problem but didnt see any clear answer to it. I have W98 and plenty of disc space on Dell350 - any ideas what the problem is??

johno8845

December 12, 2005

johno4485,

Do you get any error messages..?

johno4485 · December 12, 2005

johno4485,
Do you get any error messages..?
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No - just a message at the bottom left corner saying 'decoding' when trying to play a track which disappeared when the mouse was moved around - also although the play button changed when selected there was no visual progress marker to show how far the track was playing. When saving there was nothing unusual or any error messages at all - just brief disc activity presumably as it created the folders - just no files.

Johno4485

Vovo · December 12, 2005

You must have the 2 .dat files in your GYM directory, decodeKeys and encodeKeys

GOt it ?

johno4485 · December 12, 2005

You must have the 2 .dat files in your GYM directory, decodeKeys and encodeKeys
GOt it ?
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Yes both in same directory as Gym

Johno4485

Vovo · December 12, 2005

So i think you follow scrupulously the keygen process, with keyWizard and MP3FileManager (V2).

For enough files ?, you've got regular MP3 ? (sure not encoded as ATRAC)

Strange issue by the way

johno4485 · December 12, 2005

So i think you follow scrupulously the keygen process, with keyWizard and MP3FileManager (V2).
For enough files ?, you've got regular MP3 ? (sure not encoded as ATRAC)
Strange issue by the way
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I created 5000 keygen files, the files on the HD5 are mixed Atrac and mp3, I realise Atrac can not be transferred - perhaps I will try and clear everything off and start from scratch unless anyone else has any ideas.

Johno4485

Vovo · December 12, 2005

Sorry i'm out of ideas,

Perhaps the file 04CNTINF.DAT got a strange structure ???

It will be a good thing to clear all on your HD5 (by BD5 menu option)

and to repeat the process with only MP3FM, GYM and MP3 file.

Tell me what happens...

*xispe* · December 12, 2005

hummm has anyone else tried running GYM on windows 98 ?

johno4485 is running in windows 98...

Vovo · December 12, 2005

hummm has anyone else tried running GYM on windows 98 ?
johno4485 is running in windows 98...
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Ah nope, Microsoft again ? :ol_devil:

:ol_exclaim: Perhaps the temp folder for saving the files !

Edited December 13, 2005 by Vovo

bongocanuck · December 13, 2005

Any advance on the ability to create playlists via GYM on the actual player (so as to not duplcate songs)?

Edited December 13, 2005 by bongocanuck

Richard_p · December 13, 2005

Excellent program, this sort of thing has been needed for a looooong time.

Greatfunctionality with MP3's.

My two suggestions are :

- Allow renaming of tags, album, artist title etc.

- Atrac support, at least with renaming.

SS is terrible for browsing tracks on the HD5, with just the option of veiwng artist or playlist, not albums like GYM (which i prefer to view my tracks by). I understand that this is perhaps going beyond the original concept of 'Grab your Music' but i'd love to see a GYM which allowws editing of files on the player.

iyareu · December 13, 2005

This software is GREAT.

It allows me to see the contents of my VP in alphabetical order order and I can search by Genre or Artist of Track or Album so it is fantastic.

2. Questions :

1. I might sound a bit dull here but when it asks on installation for the mp3 file manager - what does it mean?

I have installed the mp3 addition to SS but this does not seem to make a difference.

2: When I try to play a track I get an unhandled exception - are these two things related ?

Great work on the app - look forward to hearing your thoughts on the probs.

Thanks.

December 13, 2005

This software is GREAT.
It allows me to see the contents of my VP in alphabetical order order and I can search by Genre or Artist of Track or Album so it is fantastic.
2. Questions :
1. I might sound a bit dull here but when it asks on installation for the mp3 file manager - what does it mean?
I have installed the mp3 addition to SS but this does not seem to make a difference.
2: When I try to play a track I get an unhandled exception - are these two things related ?
Great work on the app - look forward to hearing your thoughts on the probs.
Thanks.
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mp3 file manager is program which allow you to drag & drop of mp3`s onto your networkwalkman & It is also needed for GYM to work so download it from here..

Mp3 File Manager Version 2.0 [Download Links]

johno4485 · December 13, 2005

Ah nope, Microsoft again ?
Perhaps the temp folder for saving the files !
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Hi Vovo - I have 2 HD5 players - the one I was testing was set up on another computer when I used the one set up on Gym test computer it worked fine sound, transfer, the lot - great!!! so not a W98 problem. I might have created the Gym setup using the wrong player but it showed all the files artist details etc no problem on the second player so I assumed it would work - unless it is something to do with how it was recorded on SS on the other computer?? DRM??

Thanks for input all

johno4485

Happier now.

*xispe* · December 13, 2005

Ok! Here you have your answer...

Each player has it's own set of keys, so you can't use the keys generated in one player to decode tracks in other player.

If you have 2 players, you need to have 2 instances of GYM separated, and "assing" each one to one player. Use key wizard to generate the keys for each of the players.

The genre, artist and albums info is not encrypted so you should see them without the correct set of keys.

Joke: Then you can tag each player with a marker GYM1, and GYM2, to see which GYM to use to play and extract the files

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